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Post by londoner on Feb 2, 2018 23:00:26 GMT
...will I get in trouble :s For it breaking? No. People may well think less of you though for not taking the paddle which fell off to a member of staff and/or reporting the problem. I didn't know what to do, felt quite anxious about it . Will take note in the future.
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Post by londoner on Feb 2, 2018 21:54:29 GMT
I was at South Ken earlier, put my oyster ticket on the reader, went through, and literally, one of the barriers just fell off! It hit my ankle/ leg and I carried on walking away, after looking around quite puzzled.
I am very skinny and had a small bag (which was pretty much empty - a small reading book and a few papers). I certainly didn't do this intentionally.
How often does this happen and will I get in trouble :s
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Post by londoner on Jan 23, 2018 0:33:32 GMT
Just thought I'd update the thread. A new version (3.7) of the map was released by Franklin Jarrier just before Christmas:
http://carto.metro.free.fr/metro-tram-london/
direct download link:
http://carto.metro.free.fr/documents/CartoMetroLondon.v3.7.pdf
Not sure what the new changes are however.
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Post by londoner on Jan 22, 2018 0:11:23 GMT
Looks like they were selling some porkies!
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Post by londoner on Jan 14, 2018 18:29:43 GMT
Couldn’t the whole of that video be replaced just with one photo of a Crossrail roundel instread? It seemed mainly to be about him. The video is posted on his own self titled Youtube channel to be fair...
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Post by londoner on Dec 26, 2017 23:13:55 GMT
I think one issue I had was not that it was a child's voice, but that to me at least, it wasn't as clear as the usual announcement.
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Post by londoner on Dec 26, 2017 0:08:26 GMT
I saw those engineers trains taking ballast towards Uxbridge on Christmas Eve. Was wondering what it was for!
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Post by londoner on Dec 24, 2017 18:33:33 GMT
On the Hammersmith/ Circle line platforms, occassionally, one of the platform announcements is given by a person whose voice is similar to that of a young child. I was wondering if this is indeed the case and, if so, under what circumstances (i.e. is there a particular occasion being commemorated etc?) has this child been allowed to give platform announcements?
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Post by londoner on Dec 22, 2017 12:48:06 GMT
Good news, at least it didn't become an April Fools joke!
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Post by londoner on Dec 22, 2017 12:46:29 GMT
I would recommend avoiding the Piccadilly line over Christmas because it might get very crowded. The district and circle lines are out large sections (24-30), and rail to Heathrow is out for several days too (24-27 dec).
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Post by londoner on Dec 22, 2017 0:23:30 GMT
One of the problems as I see it with the Picc is that it has a high demand off peak - albeit I know that off peak travel in general is increasing, but owing to the nature of where the line connects (Heathrow, everywhere between SK and KX), tourist traffic throughout the day is high. I assume that this makes recovery from a morning issue more difficult as there is less capacity to try and put things right before the evening peak. Recovering from any service disruption is awkward on the Picc for a multitude of reasons but the main one is: The line's length. When a train is dumped into a siding due to a problem elsewhere, the line's length means it is ages before that train's slot comes back around. An average major disruption is let's say approx 1hr. The roundabout time 1 and half hours so drivers end up massively displaced. So even if you could get the trains back in the right place, getting this to work with drivers back into the right place is extremely difficult, and so recovering disruption on the Picc is difficult. Due to the large number of trains and frequency the number of reversing spots and sidings to thin the service are too few and far between. Let me put it this way I've been observing in the control room when an incident occurred on a Friday at the tail end of the peak. An approx 45mins - 1 hour incident. When the night-turn controllers arrived late evening (2 or 3 hours later) - the service was still massively displaced. I went home at this point, but until Night-Tube proper started the line was showing Severe Delays some 4 hours after the incident. The other problem is turning short.... you can get away with east end reversing short - density of service gives quite a lot of chances for this, not the west end of the line is a problem for this. Heathrow NEEDS a service. Also Rayners Lane branch NEEDS a service - you could reverse Uxbridge trains at Rayners Lane, but there's only one siding, which makes it tricky. Short of making T5 serviced a shuttle from 1,2,3 and running T4 at full length, there's not a lot else to do, but run all the Heathrow's. I can't imagine that idea would go down very well with anyone anyway. Are the tracks into Aldwych still used to detrain? Also, just after leaving Hammersmith towards Acton Town), there is an abandoned piece of infrastructure which used to take trains into Hammersmith Grove Rd station (also abanadoned). There appears to be enough space here for some sidings, as opposed to using the ones at Hammersmith which I gather is quite difficult. I also see Acton Town rarely has trains in its sidings, compared to previous years. Are trains terminated at Acton Town less often these days?
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Post by londoner on Dec 20, 2017 19:38:45 GMT
I just voiced my opinion . I don't think you can speak on behalf of ten million people however! I didn't. I just voiced an opinion that we will survive this "final nail in the coffin". What do you reckon? I'm not clear as to why you've taken such a strong exception to that phrase. I've not said anywhere that others may hold that view, nor have I implied that others "can't go on". Apart from the purists and those with nostalgic thoughts, is there any use for a purely tube map anymore? Nowadays, London’s transport is so integrated compared to how it was a few years ago. I think you're absolutely right. It's all to do with efficiently shifting the ever increasing number of people around London and no longer an iconic artistic statement and for everybody's benefit to try and get tourists, and others who aren't familiar with the system, spread onto as many of the alternatives to the core underground as possible and this is only possible by putting these alternatives front and centre - on the map. However, I'm fairly sure that when the digital version becomes the preponderance, a function will allow different aspects of rail travel to be addressed on separate layers for those traditionalists who only wish to see certain parts of the network. I agree. Its already happening to bus maps I believe - slowly disappearing.
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Post by londoner on Dec 20, 2017 2:17:25 GMT
The tube map is ghastly and I think the final nail in the coffin was the expansion of the Overground at Liverpool St and also having a region of zone 2/3 fares. The problem now is that I don't believe TfL are brave enough to improve it. "the final nail in the coffin" - At least you are not being overly dramatic or anything. I think I and the other 10 million people in London will live despite this extra, useful information on the map. But thanks awfully all the same I just voiced my opinion . I don't think you can speak on behalf of ten million people however!
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Post by londoner on Dec 20, 2017 0:20:32 GMT
Thought the map was good, giving a more graceful bend to the line between Whitechapel and Canary Wharf, until like a previous poster I noticed what had been sacrificed in order to accommodate it. Given the vast amount of data the tube map now conveys, and the inelegant way it is constantly tinkered with, perhaps the 'clockwork' design has now reached its limit? The tube map is ghastly and I think the final nail in the coffin was the expansion of the Overground at Liverpool St and also having a region of zone 2/3 fares. The problem now is that I don't believe TfL are brave enough to improve it.
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Post by londoner on Dec 10, 2017 11:40:20 GMT
All routes in my area are suspended. Bakerloo line says good service whilst Overground has severe delays on Watford DC line. I smell bull there...Pic and Met is out in my parts. No reliable bus service to Central line stations either. Good luck to those needing to travel today!
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Post by londoner on Nov 29, 2017 20:54:10 GMT
To me, its more than just safety. Its about customer service. Pride in customer service? What about people who need assistance at a ticket machine? To add a travel discount? Vulnerable people? I met an elderly lady at Roding Valley not so long ago who was 'testing' a help point out. She had knocked on the station supervisors door with no answer, and the information button just rang and rang. I asked her why she was testing out the help point and she told me that she had a bad experience the previous Saturday late evening with a group of youths who intimidated her. She was given a first class service and even offered a lift home. This time, she wanted to make sure that somebody would be at the station when she returned later that evening in case the same thing happened again. Since she couldn't find anyone, she decided that she would have to rush her shopping and get back before dark. I'm sure that she would have been preoccupied and anxious about her journey home. It is people like the above example who suffer as a result of unmanned stations (or even worse, not knowing if/when the station is unmanned). I was at Alperton the other day and one of the cleaning crew operated the information button (or whatever). There was a ring for a minute or so before she gave up. Another instance, also at Alperton, one lad sat on the platform edge and began to pose for platforms. Nothing was done, no staff in sight. Even when there are staff, they give incorrect information (through no fault of their own). I have seen this on the Met line, both at Finchley Rd and Harrow, where trains get diverted and platform staff are not informed. There is a clear problem at TFL regarding station staff, but I suspect not a lot will happen. I must say that when staff are present, they always appear to do a professional job. It beggars belief how they can just decide to "reorganise" staff (aka make some redundant) and think everything will be the same. I'd love the know how much extra revenue they are losing having to leave ticket barriers open for a sustained period of time.
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Post by londoner on Nov 27, 2017 23:17:40 GMT
I dislike people such as the journalist that block the ticket barriers for no reason. I find this to be the biggest problem!!!
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Post by londoner on Nov 27, 2017 22:55:24 GMT
I remember boarding one of the old silverlink trains on the Watford DC line. The train pulled in and stopped, and then the doors just kept opening and closing!
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Post by londoner on Nov 21, 2017 19:32:10 GMT
I avoid the line as much as possible, despite it being my local line and the line providing a direct route to work. Instead, I take the Met line and sacrifice 5-10 minutes extra (though not always depending on waiting times for the uxbridge branch).
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Post by londoner on Nov 11, 2017 23:23:22 GMT
Have these ever been up to Uxbridge? I've seen something that looks vaguely similar to the one in that video.
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Post by londoner on Nov 7, 2017 21:57:22 GMT
I think I read somewhere that simply adding passing loops isn't enough. You need a large section four tracked. May be wrong though. I have to say, I think in many years to come, we will regret not having linked the overground station properly with old oak common. You could probably run only with loops but journey times would be unacceptably long as trains waited while 2 or 3 fasts hurtled past. If you wanted decent / attractive journey times then you're right that more 4 tracking would be needed. Could you say what you mean by "properly served" by the Overground? Aren't the two extra stations enough? OK there is walking distance between them and the main OOC station but clearly no one is willing to entertain new railway alignments, other than HS2, in the site. Hence it's a case of plonking stations on existing lines and making the best of the situation. Properly served would for me be one single station which was served by all lines and was accessible for all. I am aware it will increase the costs tenfold, but I can't shake the feeling that we will view it as a missed opportunity in the future. Ideally I'd put Old Oak Common Lane station on the opposite side of the road and have it connected to Old Oak Common station but I am not sure for what reasons this was avoided (I imagine there are some).
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Post by londoner on Nov 7, 2017 21:05:50 GMT
I suspect TfL will start to use contractors as much as possible and therefore lose some in-house experience.
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Post by londoner on Nov 7, 2017 21:03:29 GMT
Chiltern need to have all the passing loops reinstated at all the local stations within London so that they can run a proper metro service and expresses, rather than the random stopping pattern currently in place. I think I read somewhere that simply adding passing loops isn't enough. You need a large section four tracked. May be wrong though. I have to say, I think in many years to come, we will regret not having linked the overground station properly with old oak common.
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Post by londoner on Nov 6, 2017 21:32:28 GMT
The most important thing is that no one required any hospital treatment
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Post by londoner on Nov 4, 2017 22:55:04 GMT
Do you happen to have any pictures of the mainline platforms too?
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Post by londoner on Oct 28, 2017 23:53:07 GMT
guaranteed by whom? Is the person who made said guarantee in a position to deliver on that promise? Will they still be in that position when the time comes? Chicken and egg - if the trains don't call, the passengers can't use them. The Gravesend extension has been safeguarded for some time, partially the reason why no buffers were built in the Abbey Wood Crossrail platforms and the track continues quite some distance from the station. A safeguarded route does not guarantee an extension. Also, a safeguarded route can be changed in the future.
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Post by londoner on Oct 17, 2017 20:30:36 GMT
I know they'll be making assumptions about how many people may use Thameslink once the new timetable kicks in, but how many Londoners even know it exists? If TFL persist in not putting at least part of the route on the tube map, then a good number of people will not know about the service and thus continue using the Jubilee line to London Bridge and Greenwich.
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Post by londoner on Oct 15, 2017 21:13:35 GMT
On the subject of cutbacks, wasn't the Chiltern service from moor park removed because they couldn't update the signalling?
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Post by londoner on Oct 13, 2017 12:46:16 GMT
Today I saw a Met train go into the siding from the westbound platform. A Piccadilly line train then terminated at Rayners Lane (its destination read Rayners Lane). I did not see what happened next, because I took an Eastbound Met train, although at Harrow, an out of service Met train passed the station without stopping.
I remember reading on these forums not so long ago that it was quicker using the crossover (sorry, don't know the correct term) to go directly from westbound to eastbound track, rather than going into the siding and then reversing into eastbound. My question thus is, why did this Met line train go into the siding in the way it did?
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Post by londoner on Oct 10, 2017 20:53:45 GMT
Hi Today (9/10/17) I finished Uni at 6pm and waited a few mins at Euston Square to get an all stations Uxbridge service home. At Baker St they decided to make this a semi fast which is inconvenient for a Preston Rd user. I got off at Finchley Rd and had to wait for 4 Semis/Fasts after the one I had got off (12 mins) until the next all Stations came. Why is there such an infrequent service to Preston Rd in the evening peaks. Half my train got off at Preston Rd taking me a few mins to get out and I was in a rear carriage closest to the exit. Cant they just run more Semis to Preston Rd and Northwick Pk especially when there is such a demand for these stations? The passengers going to Watford or Uxbridge will only lose a few mins at most which they do half the time anyway when the train is an all stations. Since the introduction of the S stock, the service pattern has gotten more complex with Fast and Semi-Fast services running Southbound only in the morning peaks and Northbound only in the evening peaks (leaving the contraflows out of this one). During the morning, taking a southbound train, I regularly notice semi-fast services going northbound (usually going Harrow) so probably some service recovery. Unless I am reading the working timetable incorrectly however, I do see some trains pencilled in to Watford as semi-fast.
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