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Post by norbitonflyer on Nov 6, 2017 12:46:17 GMT
According to this page on the tfl website, here will be no service west of South Kensington on Boxing Day (which despite the url saying 2016 clearly states the dates in question are Christmas/New Year 2017/18) But according to the service status page for 26-12-17 here a normal service will be running. and here hereCan anyone shed any light on this? (and ideally, get TfL to make sure all their pages give the correct information) EDITED as second link didn't work
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Post by notverydeep on Nov 6, 2017 12:56:57 GMT
According to this page on the tfl website, here will be no service west of South Kensington on Boxing Day (which despite the url saying 2016 clearly states the dates in question are Christmas/New Year 2017/18) But according to this page a normal service will be running. Can anyone shed any light on this? (and ideally, get TfL to make sure all their pages give the correct information) I'm afraid I can't get your second link to do anything other than open a new window with this thread, however, the first page is correct and there is planned to be a District closure west of South Kensington from Christmas Eve to the 30th December (inclusive)...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 13:44:04 GMT
The points at the East End of Earls Court are being replaced so no service for sure
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 6, 2017 15:17:06 GMT
According to this page on the tfl website, here will be no service west of South Kensington on Boxing Day To clarify, 26-30 December a special service will operate from Upminster-Edgware Road via Victoria. This will not be available on 24 December.
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Post by scheduler on Nov 6, 2017 19:10:36 GMT
According to this page on the tfl website, here will be no service west of South Kensington on Boxing Day To clarify, 26-30 December a special service will operate from Upminster-Edgware Road via Victoria. This will not be available on 24 December. The delay in accurate information reaching all parts of the TfL website is that the engineering works were going to start on Boxing Day, but they have been extended to include 24 December, and so the issuing of the Sub-Surface Christmas and in particular the District has been delayed. The information should be fully available and correct from external TfL sources at 6 weeks before. As far as I'm aware from 26-30 Dec and possibly also 24 Dec District is only running a South Kensington to Upminster shuttle at 5 minute intervals. Hammersmith & City Line is running as normal. No circles on the southern half of the circle, because there's no place to reverse them, so they reverse at Aldgate. To fill in for the missing District service out west, the Piccadilly Uxbridge branch trains will be running on the locals (District tracks) west of Hammersmith to provide an every 10 minutes service as far as Acton Town. In other words the first link shown in the start of this thread was correct.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 7, 2017 11:20:15 GMT
As far as I'm aware from 26-30 Dec and possibly also 24 Dec District is only running a South Kensington to Upminster shuttle at 5 minute intervals. Hammersmith & City Line is running as normal. No circles on the southern half of the circle, because there's no place to reverse them, so they reverse at Aldgate.. Apologies for the mis-information, scheduler is indeed correct, as the Duty Sheets have now been issued. LU Scheduling Services will probably correct their issued information on Friday.
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Post by kateyay on Nov 9, 2017 6:35:57 GMT
As far as I'm aware from 26-30 Dec and possibly also 24 Dec District is only running a South Kensington to Upminster shuttle at 5 minute intervals. Hammersmith & City Line is running as normal. No circles on the southern half of the circle, because there's no place to reverse them, so they reverse at Aldgate.. Apologies for the mis-information, scheduler is indeed correct, as the Duty Sheets have now been issued. LU Scheduling Services will probably correct their issued information on Friday. The service mentioned above (Upminster to Edgware Rd via Victoria) seems to be a copy of last year's Christmas service. This does not appear to be in operation this year, with no District west of South Ken and no Circle between Aldgate and Edgware Rd via Embankment and Victoria.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Nov 26, 2017 8:45:57 GMT
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 26, 2017 11:23:05 GMT
First link is correct; Duty sheets, working timetables, Duty books all published now, reflecting closure on Christmas Eve South Kensington-Ealing/Richmond/Olympia/WimbledonEdgware Road 5min service South Kensington-Upminster
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Post by norbitonflyer on Nov 26, 2017 13:54:59 GMT
First link is correct; Duty sheets, working timetables, Duty books all published now, reflecting closure on Christmas Eve South Kensington-Ealing/Richmond/Olympia/WimbledonEdgware Road 5min service South Kensington-Upminster Quite so, but when is the information given out to the public going to be corrected? A friend has made a commitment based on the incorrect information, which he can now only honour by hiring a car over Christmas. I thought advertising a service you have no intention of providing was a breach of the Advertising Standards Authority's code of practice.
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Post by scheduler on Nov 29, 2017 1:55:51 GMT
First link is correct; Duty sheets, working timetables, Duty books all published now, reflecting closure on Christmas Eve South Kensington-Ealing/Richmond/Olympia/WimbledonEdgware Road 5min service South Kensington-Upminster Quite so, but when is the information given out to the public going to be corrected? A friend has made a commitment based on the incorrect information, which he can now only honour by hiring a car over Christmas. I thought advertising a service you have no intention of providing was a breach of the Advertising Standards Authority's code of practice. Well I've just checked the 2 links and they currently show the correct information for Christmas Eve.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Nov 29, 2017 8:01:59 GMT
Well I've just checked the 2 links and they currently show the correct information for Christmas Eve. Yes - it's been changed within the last three days.
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Post by spsmiler on Dec 22, 2017 22:05:16 GMT
Conspicuous by its absence is information about replacement bus services for the District Line closures over the Christmas period.
Or is it that there wont be any?
OK, so people who live near Kew Gardens, Gunnersbury and West Brompton can catch Overground trains, but by-en-large its an absolute disaster for most Wimbledon branch passengers and Tramlink passengers who use the District Line to reach zone 1.
Many of these passengers choose the District Line because the fares are less expensive. Making them use SWR services from Wimbledon / Putney means that their travel costs will rise very significantly, especially if they need to go to work on days between Christmas and the New Year - when they will be hit by another whammy in the form of being charged weekday peak hour fares for a weekend service*. For some of these passengers their journey durations will also be very extended, especially if they live near one of the intermediate stations.
I assume that SWR wont be running a local stations passenger shuttle service between Wimbledon and East Putney. But I bet their normal passenger and ecs workings will still be running via that way.
*Only the railways can get away with this - its almost like a supermarket charging an inverse BOGOF - instead of 'buy one get one free' its 'buy one and be charged for two'. Ouch.
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edit to add: I am assuming that the District Line is not running a West Brompton - Wimbledon shuttle? I suppose that the WLL Overground service would be swamped if it did.
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Post by wimblephil on Dec 22, 2017 23:41:23 GMT
There has been a poster up on the board at the top of the stairs to Wimbledon District line, stating 3 replacement bus services will be in operation; Wimbledon to Hammersmith, Wimbledon to Earls Court and Turnham Green to Richmond. This is in keeping with previous years closures in my experience.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Dec 23, 2017 5:34:36 GMT
I assume that SWR wont be running a local stations passenger shuttle service between Wimbledon and East Putney. But I bet their normal passenger and ecs workings will still be running via that way. ---------------------------- edit to add: I am assuming that the District Line is not running a West Brompton - Wimbledon shuttle? I suppose that the WLL Overground service would be swamped if it did. The track from Wimbledon pfm.5 towards East Putney is still out of commission following the recent derailment. Due to the work at Earl’s Court the traction current section stretches to Putney Bridge, so limiting the service which could be provided. Last year point work was also undertaken at Wimbledon platforms.
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Post by scheduler on Dec 23, 2017 17:33:54 GMT
Wimbledon passengers are advised to use southwest trains to Waterloo. Should be same fare on an oyster card, and I expect cross-ticket acceptance to be in place. There is replacement bus to earl's court to join the picc. The Richmond branch advice is use the Overground or southwest trains from Richmond. Ealing Broadway customers should use the central. This information is all available on TfL website. There is also a Wimbledon branch bus to Hammersmith. If you go to status update page on website and put in date of 24th December all replacement buses are described.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Dec 23, 2017 18:30:02 GMT
Conspicuous by its absence is information about replacement bus services for the District Line closures over the Christmas period. Or is it that there wont be any? OK, so people who live near Kew Gardens, Gunnersbury and West Brompton can catch Overground trains, but by-en-large its an absolute disaster for most Wimbledon branch passengers and Tramlink passengers who use the District Line to reach zone 1.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Dec 23, 2017 18:50:18 GMT
Wimbledon passengers are advised to use Southwest trains to Waterloo. Should be same fare on an oyster card, Sadly not - SWT charges TOC rates which are generally higher - especially if you have to change to the Tube to complete the journey - note, that it is cheaper to do this at Vauxhall rather than Waterloo. And there willbee no trains on Boxing Day anyway.
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Post by spsmiler on Dec 23, 2017 20:04:15 GMT
Oh, well I'm pleased to see that there will be a replacement bus service and that information about it is on display at stations.
It would have been even better if (at a minimum) the weekly TfL travel news had said to see posters at stations.
As already pointed out, SWR charge PAYG passengers higher fares than TfL. However at least for Travelcard passengers there is a happier story, as their fares will be unchanged.
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Post by rincew1nd on Dec 25, 2017 10:03:58 GMT
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Post by roythebus on Dec 25, 2017 23:40:22 GMT
I'm driving the Sullivan buses service from Hammersmith to Wimbledon late shift this week, so it ought to be running!
Last time we had this job there was a fatal accident at Hammersmith Broadway (not involving one of ours) that blocked the Broadway and we had to suspend the service for a few hours. Nothing could move anywhere.
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Post by londoner on Dec 26, 2017 0:08:26 GMT
I saw those engineers trains taking ballast towards Uxbridge on Christmas Eve. Was wondering what it was for!
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Post by rincew1nd on Dec 26, 2017 11:18:47 GMT
A further update:
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2017 11:23:39 GMT
They getting well paid for it
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Post by Jerome H on Dec 26, 2017 17:44:22 GMT
They getting well paid for it Do they work directly for TfL? Or is this part of a short or long term maintenance contract?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2017 17:51:30 GMT
Abit of both
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Post by norbitonflyer on Dec 28, 2017 10:11:22 GMT
I am assuming that the District Line is not running a West Brompton - Wimbledon shuttle?. The track from Wimbledon pfm.5 towards East Putney is still out of commission following the recent derailment. Unusual sight of a couple of battery locos on a ballast train at Wimbledon, near the derailment site, this morning. Presumably there to repair the junction.
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Post by brooklynbound on Dec 30, 2017 15:25:37 GMT
I was interested to see "No District South Kensington to Wimbledon" or words to that effect scrolling on the 22 bus I was on along the Kings Road in Chelsea. Unfortunately I have since been on a 337 to Richmond. It displayed the same message about the Wimbledon branch, failing to warn passengers that the District would be unavailable from Richmond.
I realise that getting all the info out there can be hard but sometimes partial info is worse than no info.
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Post by paulsw2 on Dec 30, 2017 18:24:29 GMT
I was interested to see "No District South Kensington to Wimbledon" or words to that effect scrolling on the 22 bus I was on along the Kings Road in Chelsea. Unfortunately I have since been on a 337 to Richmond. It displayed the same message about the Wimbledon branch, failing to warn passengers that the District would be unavailable from Richmond. I realise that getting all the info out there can be hard but sometimes partial info is worse than no info. Probably because the Overground is in operation between Richmond and Gunnersbury (rail replacement to Turnham Green) then Piccadilly line services
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