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Post by metman on Jul 13, 2014 16:28:53 GMT
That's correct. The reversible 4 car units could be coupled to the UNDM from either end - ie the 32xx or the 33xx.
I have often wondered if an 8 car train could have been formed 32xx-42xx-43xx-33xx+32xx-42xx-43xx-33xx
Or could a 6 car train been formed?
35xx-45xx-34xx+34xx-45xx-35xx
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Post by metman on Jul 13, 2014 12:25:00 GMT
I believe this was due to engineering works. I'm sure I saw a photo of a 1959 stock train at Baker Street too once.
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Post by metman on Jul 8, 2014 19:41:27 GMT
Good old Tim!
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Post by metman on Jul 2, 2014 17:54:54 GMT
I believe that the T stock weighed just shy of 49 tons when fully equipped so at a guess they would be 20 tons less perhaps. It must be remembered however that the heavy plate frame bogies are still in place. My guess is that they will weigh approx 35 tons now.
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Post by metman on Jul 1, 2014 20:59:55 GMT
And so ends 111 years of the Westinghouse brake on the sub surface line from the 1903 A stock to the C69/77 stock. Sad times......
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Post by metman on Jun 29, 2014 22:41:18 GMT
That is a surprise as the S stock is certainly no taller than the A stock which can run between Rayners to Acton albeit at limited speed.
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Post by metman on Jun 29, 2014 11:27:36 GMT
I don't use DCC but I'm told that if it is a two or three car set you want to power an endo bogie is very good.
How come you have such long gaps? Make sure that you are able to feed the power to the extreme ends of the boards. This is important I think for DCC. Use a bus line or equivalent below the board if you can. I'm such others on here will be able to help more. I'm a bit of a dinosaur with this sort of thing I'm afraid!
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Post by metman on Jun 28, 2014 8:40:45 GMT
I would recommend placing both bogies on one car and linking it together. You can then stick a load of weights in that car for maximum traction. If you place a motor at the end if each train they must be linked by a bus line otherwise the one motor will not push or pull the train when the other loses power. I learnt that the hard way!
It is best to get motor bogies online. They are going up in price all the time sadly.
My advice is this:
1 tenshodo - 2 cars 1 black beetle - 3 cars 1 endo - 3 tube cars
If using DCC multiple tenshodo spuds have created problems so I'm told.
Online retailers include: Branchlines DC kits Mainly trains - tenshodo only
Hope this helps
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Post by metman on Jun 27, 2014 15:43:14 GMT
I think they would still create problems for the district and Piccadilly line signalling.
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Post by metman on Jun 26, 2014 21:00:07 GMT
I believe Rayners Lane is actually a listed structure. I'd have to ask my colleague at work who would be responsible for allowing it!
I would expect the old chestnut of the signalling system would be the answer to be honest.
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Post by metman on Jun 25, 2014 22:40:01 GMT
The LTmuseum used to sell trains. Some EFE which are not powered and also ltd ed stuff. Hamleys may also?
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Post by metman on Jun 23, 2014 6:38:21 GMT
I can't see any other way of fitting them aside from destroying the ticket hall!!
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Post by metman on Jun 22, 2014 1:43:27 GMT
The old postage lifts are still there. I believe there were issues rebuilding them. Harrow does need lifts though.
The uxbridge branch is quite easy. Look at the end of the platform and if it's on 4 with a straight green its the uxbridge line. Trains on 3 will have the route indicator lit.
I remember years ago advising a new driver at harrow who was stuck as of where to go. After tipping out on platform 4 at harrow he was waiting for the shunt signal for the siding. I had to advise him that the straight green was to proceed to rayners lane and thence to return to Neasden via the wrong road signal at Rayners. Oh for local knowledge.....
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Post by metman on Jun 19, 2014 6:40:44 GMT
Have you checked the platform repeater signals. These are the small boxes mounted on the canopy which used to be for the guards. They will indicate which train will go first. The option I use is the Chiltern to marylebone! Fast and usually on time!
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Post by metman on Jun 18, 2014 13:14:03 GMT
Very interesting....
I wonder why the change?
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Post by metman on Jun 16, 2014 20:04:58 GMT
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Post by metman on Jun 16, 2014 19:31:24 GMT
I'm sure that long car DMUs would not fit down the single line tunnels. It was tight for A stock!!
The chances of NR trains being allowed to run to Baker Street are 0%!
I wonder how long the list of reasons why Chiltern DMUs couldn't run to Baker Street could be?
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Post by metman on Jun 15, 2014 22:22:09 GMT
Maybe they don't want to risk turning it off in case it won't go back on!
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Post by metman on Jun 15, 2014 0:54:29 GMT
I really hope the set is looked after. It is (aside from the horrid red fronts) a proper 70s train.
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Post by metman on Jun 14, 2014 8:25:43 GMT
Does anyone know the first two units that are having work undertaken in them?
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Post by metman on Jun 12, 2014 21:29:09 GMT
Sounds interesting....
Just picking up on something which was said earlier the T stock had similar sorts of motors to southern emus. Would that be something like a 4SUB? I seem to recall that some Class 455 units have former sub motors? I wonder if they could be procured? With all the spare A stock parts for sale perhaps they could be restored to something similar to their best??
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Post by metman on Jun 12, 2014 17:25:27 GMT
I'm sure that is part of the plan. Look at 5034 for example.
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Post by metman on Jun 11, 2014 14:35:23 GMT
There are three dreadnought in operational condition one is a brake coach. The T stock cars have side buffers now so could be coupled to the cars as long as they had vacuum brakes. Storage is a big factor in this as stated. Totally agree.
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Post by metman on Jun 11, 2014 12:42:39 GMT
This has been dealt with some time ago but....
The trouble with these cars is that their traction equipment was removed some time ago. They are at best useful as Driving Trailers. I'm not sure where or if any equipment could be found to get them running. I don't really think C stock motors could be adapted nor the MA/Compressors either. T stock used Electro-Pneumatic equipment which is very different to the PCM used on the more recent stock. They would need vacuum brakes to operated with Dreadnoughts which they did not originally have!
I'd hate to see them scrapped though. Can we club together the 20K needed?
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Post by metman on Jun 8, 2014 8:46:38 GMT
No a 5 car cannot run on its own as the C stock are in self contained pairs. If a car is preserved it will be taken from Northwood to wherever it is going with the rest going for scrap. This happened with the A stock and car 5034.
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Post by metman on Jun 4, 2014 18:18:33 GMT
As far as I know the Edgware Rd to Wimbledon (Putney) line had different stock for years before. I believe from the 1940s H stock usually worked this service supplemented by Q stock on occasion and when the H stock was withdrawn Q stock ran the service most of the time. I think the Q stock operated the service until about 1970 after which CO/CP stock ran the service till about 1979. I'm sure there were exceptions to this and some date slippages but this is how I understand it. Of course someone may have first hand memories of it! Due to the platform lengths I have always felt the Putney service received the older stock in service much like the ELL. My query is when the CP stock started to run on the District in about 1964 in 6 car formations did it run often on the Putney line?
Anyway back on topic.....
Punters will have to pay a lot more attention to the sides of the train which is pretty well detailed compared with previous stocks.
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Post by metman on Jun 4, 2014 10:13:28 GMT
Too right they will be gone before we know it!
I believe withdrawals will not start till January 2015 but you never know....
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Post by metman on Jun 3, 2014 7:45:24 GMT
Looks very smart. I'll be along soon.
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Post by metman on May 27, 2014 19:26:01 GMT
On the 1967/72 stock the compressors and MAs are on the trailers. This is due to the new equipment then being introduced onto the 67ts DM which did not leave room for the MAs hence why they were placed in the trailers.
I imagine as you suggest, there will be little room in/on the Vac cars to house this sort of gear.
Another thought is that will self contained equipment on board (in the saloon) the cars can be used without the Vac set and could be used as a pair of pilot motors although this sort of work is usually done by battery locos these days.
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Post by metman on May 16, 2014 11:02:06 GMT
Totally agree the line branding idea would have looked shocking!
I believe the engineer accedited was Mark Orsman?
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