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Post by superteacher on Jun 6, 2021 17:55:39 GMT
Indeed. Could we ask that members search before creating a new thread? Also, giving it the title "The Waterloo and City Line" in the Waterloo and City line board isn't very helpful.
Locking this one.
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Post by superteacher on Jun 6, 2021 17:18:09 GMT
TFL’s communication to the public is poor, granted. However, I think it should be noted that TFL staff work very hard to keep the service running, even more so during the recent difficult times.
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Post by superteacher on Jun 6, 2021 9:36:06 GMT
It has been discussed elsewhere, but the issues with a lack of control staff at Hammersmith Control Centre are causing various suspensions, especially during evenings and weekends.
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Post by superteacher on Jun 5, 2021 13:53:58 GMT
It always struck me that in its latter years, the depot was quite a long way from the main Bakerloo service (except for the 4 trains to and from Watford).
What were the duties like? I would assume that there was a lot of paid time “on the cushions” travelling to and from Queens Park?
Also, were Queens Park and Elephant crews signed off to run to Watford?
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Post by superteacher on Jun 5, 2021 11:48:27 GMT
We have had more discussions on this forum about announcements than the number of announcements themselves. Let’s not have this thread derailed by another such discussion.
My reference to announcements was a passing comment, not intended to lead to a discussion.
Back on topic please.
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Post by superteacher on Jun 4, 2021 10:02:32 GMT
The system as a whole was quite run-down in the 80s. I suppose that the (then) relatively new Victoria line may not have looked as bad though.
The station was overcrowded in the peaks from almost day one!
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Post by superteacher on Jun 1, 2021 14:58:06 GMT
It's a very interesting point! If they deems it necessary to mark a document as private, why would they want the information contained within it to be made public?
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Post by superteacher on Jun 1, 2021 14:55:38 GMT
MOD COMMENT: Although TFL working timetables are available on the TFL website, we do not allow direct links to them to be posted on the forum as they are still officially marked "Private - for staff use only". One post has been edited to remove the link.
We appreciate that this may seems a bit odd, but this is in line with current forum rules. What rule is this in breach of? The relevant rule appears to be 7f, which specifically allows documents published by TfL to be posted. (7f) Reproduction of documents or portions of documents marked 'internal use only', unless these have previously been published by TfL under their Freedom of Information scheme or similar. Even the staff get caught out by the rules sometimes! I'd forgotten that we'd updated that one, so I have restored the link in the original post.
However, it has generated an interesting discussion, which can be viewed (and contributed to) via the link below:
districtdavesforum.co.uk/thread/32271/working-timetables-private-marking
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Post by superteacher on Jun 1, 2021 10:17:01 GMT
MOD COMMENT: Although TFL working timetables are available on the TFL website, we do not allow direct links to them to be posted on the forum as they are still officially marked "Private - for staff use only". One post has been edited to remove the link.
We appreciate that this may seems a bit odd, but this is in line with current forum rules.
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Post by superteacher on Jun 1, 2021 8:24:00 GMT
There are clearly issues with recruitment due to Covid, but I agree with others that this whole situation could (and should) be handled better.
With regard to the information provided to the public, this has been deteriorating for years, inversely proportional to the number of pointless automated announcements,
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Post by superteacher on May 30, 2021 10:44:24 GMT
I think that NB to SB reversing (via main line shunt) is still permitted. A couple of years ago, they had contingency plans to do that when it looked like engineering works would overrun. In the event, they finished just in time.
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Post by superteacher on May 29, 2021 21:06:36 GMT
It’s certainly been used during service suspensions and planned engineering works. Beyond that, there are no scheduled reversers there.
Didn’t something derail on it a few years ago?
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Post by superteacher on May 27, 2021 15:30:16 GMT
LT Museum are selling some of the TfL Rail signs from the eastern end. I've not been on that line for a good while, but have the signs changed there? They now have Elizabeth Line blue roundels.
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Post by superteacher on May 26, 2021 16:32:22 GMT
Can a District line train on the westbound from Aldgate East be routed into the former bay platform (Number 2 ) under CBTC ? There’s a buffer stop in the way! The move you describe was meant to be possible, but has now been dropped.
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Post by superteacher on May 26, 2021 6:29:31 GMT
I presume that the driver can see which route is set via the in-cab display? However, how far in advance would this be displayed? For example, on the inner rail at Great Portland Street, would they know which route was selected at Baker Street?
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Post by superteacher on May 25, 2021 18:43:36 GMT
When is driver training likely to start? Will all drivers be signed off on all routes?
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Post by superteacher on May 25, 2021 18:12:11 GMT
Do we know if the 9 cars have started to be introduced in the East this week as planned? I noticed the new signs at Liverpool Street today telling people to use the front 7 carriages for Marland, Forest Gate, Manor Park and Seven Kings which surprised me as I didn't think that Forest Gate or Manor Park Eastbound would be SDO. From my journey on Greater Anglia today, I was able to see the class 345 trains on TFL Rail. I only saw 7 car versions in service, although there were a few 9 car sets in Ilford depot and Gidea Park sidings.
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Post by superteacher on May 24, 2021 20:33:50 GMT
To hark back a couple of comments, I'll start a separate thread in the historical section about the Westinghouse brake and it use if that's any help. 👍 That’s great. We can move posts to it.
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Post by superteacher on May 24, 2021 10:47:30 GMT
For some reason in my head I automatically assumed they would go via the NLL, I completely forgot that the core is usable now! It’s taken so long to get to this point - you’re probably in denial! 😂
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Post by superteacher on May 24, 2021 8:40:49 GMT
Can we get back to discussing the extension rather than the finer points of rolling stock braking - thanks. Did yesterday's closure (in anticipation of integrating Battersea X into the remainder of the NL) produce any noticeable / anticipated results on the line's operations? No idea personally - hopefully somebody “in the know” may know something.
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Post by superteacher on May 24, 2021 6:09:08 GMT
Can we get back to discussing the extension rather than the finer points of rolling stock braking - thanks.
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Post by superteacher on May 19, 2021 20:29:48 GMT
in the advert, there is footage o a station. It looks like Greenford. Does anyone agree?
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Post by superteacher on May 13, 2021 21:05:55 GMT
I joined London Transport as a trainee in July 1972 and as part of my background course we were taken to the worksite for the new platforms. Quite surprising that it took until 14 July 1975 to get the new platforms into use. They had to wait for the line to Hatton Cross to be operational as there were no reversing facilities at Hounslow West using the new platforms.
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Post by superteacher on May 12, 2021 20:59:31 GMT
I’m pretty sure that the first 1973 stock entered passenger service in July 1975 (the day of the opening to Hatton Cross). However, during trial running, did a 73 stock ever run into the old Hounslow West platforms?
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Post by superteacher on Apr 28, 2021 20:09:30 GMT
I’m neither pro nor anti-union, but I can see their point. This is a very slippery slope.
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Post by superteacher on Apr 26, 2021 18:05:15 GMT
Hope this is only a temporary reduction. Hopefully, when we get all of the tourists back next year, we will need the off peak services to be increased again. I also detest the phrase "to improve service reliability." It's a financial cutback, pure and simple!
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Post by superteacher on Apr 24, 2021 11:15:34 GMT
It’s a shame that London doesn’t have the same attitude to heritage services. Here, we just run them as specials at rip-off prices.
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Post by superteacher on Apr 13, 2021 19:57:27 GMT
It annoys me that with so much money spent on new signalling, they still can't get anywhere near the end-to-end running times achieved in the 70's / 80's, although it's partly down to speed limits being more liberally observed (and enforced) back then. Perhaps speed limits were breached - not being a train driver I cannot really comment. But, if this was happening then what is significant is that it was done in perfect safety - therefore since the speeds which might have been being travelled at were proven 'safe' they should become the normal limits. Especially since train speeds nowadays are very tightly monitored and controlled with automated systems preventing breaching the limits. As an aside, I was on the SSR today and noted that the trains seem to accelerate more rapidly than before, but they were running so close to each other that it was not possible to experience the newer top speeds (where they exist). Whilst waiting on the platform at Kings Cross (eastbound) the trains seemed to be entering the station more slowly than before and there was at least one train where the white lights did not illuminate immediately prior to door closure. However that may have been my fault (LOL) because it only happened when I had a still image camera in my hand hoping to film the white lights in action! I also noted that the new track to the east of Tower Hill's bay platform is still not available for use. I think that the new track isn’t ever going to be commissioned!
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Post by superteacher on Apr 13, 2021 18:32:11 GMT
It annoys me that with so much money spent on new signalling, they still can't get anywhere near the end-to-end running times achieved in the 70's / 80's, although it's partly down to speed limits being more liberally observed (and enforced) back then.
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Post by superteacher on Apr 13, 2021 18:23:00 GMT
Agreed - and it stops the punters coming up with “what’s Upminster got to do with it?” 😂 Which, I must admit, was my first thought when reading the OP. The average punter can't even work out why a signal failure at Edgware Road would cause severe delays on the Met! "Edgware Road isn't on the Met Line!" I remember having a conversation with someone on a platform about it, analogous to how a road delay can affect other roads for miles around.
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