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Post by superteacher on Apr 12, 2021 17:41:39 GMT
Can anyone explain this?
London Overground: No service between Stratford and Richmond / Clapham Junction and Gospel Oak and Barking due to a fire alert at Upminster.
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Post by rincew1nd on Apr 12, 2021 17:52:13 GMT
Control room location?
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Post by goldenarrow on Apr 12, 2021 18:42:35 GMT
Majority of the North London Line is controlled from workstations located within Upminster Integrated Electronic Control Centre (IECC) where there was a reported fire alarm activation.
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Post by Chris M on Apr 12, 2021 20:14:24 GMT
"Fire alert in the control room" would be a lot more useful information to give, even if it's technically less precise.
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Post by superteacher on Apr 12, 2021 20:22:02 GMT
"Fire alert in the control room" would be a lot more useful information to give, even if it's technically less precise. Agreed - and it stops the punters coming up with “what’s Upminster got to do with it?” 😂 |
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Post by class411 on Apr 12, 2021 20:55:36 GMT
"Fire alert in the control room" would be a lot more useful information to give, even if it's technically less precise. Agreed - and it stops the punters coming up with “what’s Upminster got to do with it?” 😂 Which, I must admit, was my first thought when reading the OP. |
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Post by brigham on Apr 13, 2021 7:36:05 GMT
'Upminster' in LU-speak has possibly changed its meaning.
It probably now means 'Upminster Integrated Electronic Control Centre'.
See 'Eurovision', for example.
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Post by rincew1nd on Apr 13, 2021 7:47:09 GMT
Eurovision is the network that brings you football matches from Italy and Formula 1 from Monaco. It hasn't changed, people just now associate it purely with the annual Song Contest.
Besides, what has LU-speak got to do with the London Overground?
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Post by Chris L on Apr 13, 2021 11:35:05 GMT
Will control move from Upminster to Romford?
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Post by superteacher on Apr 13, 2021 18:23:00 GMT
Agreed - and it stops the punters coming up with “what’s Upminster got to do with it?” 😂 Which, I must admit, was my first thought when reading the OP. The average punter can't even work out why a signal failure at Edgware Road would cause severe delays on the Met! "Edgware Road isn't on the Met Line!" I remember having a conversation with someone on a platform about it, analogous to how a road delay can affect other roads for miles around. |
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Post by goldenarrow on Apr 13, 2021 20:18:10 GMT
Will control move from Upminster to Romford? My understating is the transfer London Tilbury & Southend routes to Romford has now been abandoned. Upminster IECC will instead be modernised to the standard the enlarged Romford Rail Operating Centre (ROC) was due to be elevated to. |
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Post by johnlinford on Apr 13, 2021 21:47:06 GMT
The average punter can't even work out why a signal failure at Edgware Road would cause severe delays on the Met! "Edgware Road isn't on the Met Line!" I remember having a conversation with someone on a platform about it, analogous to how a road delay can affect other roads for miles around. This is perhaps a failure of the idea that all the TfL routes are independent "lines" that are colour coded and implied entirely separate - the Met does have (technically) different rolling stock after all. |
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Post by North End on Apr 13, 2021 23:00:19 GMT
Will control move from Upminster to Romford? My understating is the transfer London Tilbury & Southend routes to Romford has now been abandoned. Upminster IECC will instead be modernised to the standard the enlarged Romford Rail Operating Centre (ROC) was due to be elevated to. It does seem like Network Rail has cooled off a little from their ROC concept. Like happened when the costs put Railtrack off their planned Network Management Centre concept, this time apparently Covid has thrown up resourcing issues at such places which were never envisaged. I’m not sure if it’s simply that a virus outbreak on an operating floor could wipe out a pretty large proportion of the network, or more nuanced than that. |
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Post by antharro on Apr 14, 2021 5:30:07 GMT
Question has been answered. Any further discussion of Upminster Control Centre can take place in a new thread please!
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Post by brigham on Apr 14, 2021 7:36:20 GMT
Eurovision is the network that brings you football matches from Italy and Formula 1 from Monaco. It hasn't changed, people just now associate it purely with the annual Song Contest. Besides, what has LU-speak got to do with the London Overground? I'll try and re-phrase it to (hopefully) make my meaning plain. "Perhaps 'Upminster' in railway operators' jargon has come to mean 'Upminster Integrated Electronic Control Centre', rather than just the name of the suburban town in East London, in the same way that 'Eurovision' has, in popular press jargon, come to refer to 'The Eurovision Song Contest', instead of 'The Television Service of the European Broadcasting Union'". If anyone requires further clarification, feel free to ask... |
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