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Post by phillw48 on Sept 29, 2015 19:03:12 GMT
The power collection system as stated above used an overhead third rail. The collector 'shoes' were not shoes at all but a pantograph similar to that used on the Snaefell Mountain Railway on the Isle of Man but in this case a lot lower due to the limited headroom and connected to the underframe instead of the roof. This can be seen in the photograph with Chris's article together with the overhead conductor rail. AFAIK the only other electric railway using an overhead third rail was in the Hudson River tunnels in New York after steam locomotives were banned, this was made necessary by water ingress into the tunnels and insufficient room for wire catenary.
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Post by phillw48 on Sept 27, 2015 22:58:01 GMT
I have a brochure of the Underground museum published late 60's/early 70's IIRC. It gives a history of line 1 which had a very restricted headroom, about 2.5 metres, this was to enable the line to squeeze over and under various utilities.
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Post by phillw48 on Sept 20, 2015 15:39:18 GMT
by 1948 the GN&C had been altered to accept tube stock . Specifically, the loco had (presumably) been converted to operate on the GN&Cs electrification system when it was moved there, but the GN&C had then been converted (in 1940) to the standard LU system Was it scrapped in 1940? not 1948.
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Post by phillw48 on Sept 19, 2015 22:01:53 GMT
The loco lasted until 1948 when it was scrapped by mistake!! This may not be the right thread for it, but how did that happen? It was not 'scrapped by mistake', by 1948 the GN&C had been altered to accept tube stock and the loco was confined to the depot. It could not be removed from the depot as the road access was not suitable so it was scrapped on site.
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Post by phillw48 on Sept 19, 2015 21:55:44 GMT
Upton Park + 3
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Post by phillw48 on Sept 18, 2015 20:10:54 GMT
Regretably I will be unable to attend as it clashes with the Shenfield show.
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Post by phillw48 on Sept 15, 2015 9:55:11 GMT
A recent thread on another forum has mentioned that Clintons Cards have produced a facsimile of a tube map. It has been established that it dates from 1959-1964. I understand that it is reproduced as wrapping paper and is fairly large.
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Post by phillw48 on Sept 15, 2015 9:46:48 GMT
Wheel turning?
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Post by phillw48 on Sept 6, 2015 20:22:24 GMT
The idea of bullhead rail was that it had two running surfaces so that once one had worn the rail could be turned 180 degrees and the other surface used. This however required a different method of fixing it to the sleepers than other types of rail, hence the use of chairs and keys (wedges) to keep the track in place. The advantage of this type of track in confined spaces such as tube tunnels was that it doubled the time between replacement of the rails which would be a major task in such a confined space.
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Post by phillw48 on Aug 26, 2015 10:50:28 GMT
The 'background' is the footpath on the south side of the line going from Dagenham East towards Elm Park (opposite the old May and Baker site.
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Post by phillw48 on Aug 24, 2015 16:36:33 GMT
I’m sorry about this, but my brain thinks Partworks have a rather bad stereotype, that stereotype being that a partwork launches at a low price, and then eventually gets cancelled after a few issues due to low sales. I’m not implying that it happens to all partworks, though. Usually Atlas and others such as Hatchet carry on until the finish and prices are no more and quite often less than the equivalent model in the shops as is evident by the number of products made by companies such as Oxford and Corgi that appear in the Atlas range in particular and at the same price as those manufacturers normal products. The reason they seem to disappear is that W H Smiths and other retailers will only stock partworks for the first few editions then drop them from their orders, usually when the next partwork starts. This is why Atlas in particular has gone over to direct selling. If such a series was produced in conjunction with the LT museum individual models would probably be available from the museum shop. This happens in the case of the Eddie Stobart trucks series produced by Atlas, the same models can be purchased from the Stobart shop, and a lot cheaper than on e-bay or at swap meets.
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Post by phillw48 on Aug 23, 2015 12:55:49 GMT
It is a lot, but remember the Underground system of today dates back over 150 years and each individual line has had its own distinctive rolling stock and its only very recently that the 'one size fits all' has come into being with the introduction of the 'S' stock. There are now twelve Underground lines plus the DLR and Overground, each with its own distinct history, liveries and rolling stock. Many indeed such as the Metropolitan and the District several generations of stock.
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Post by phillw48 on Aug 22, 2015 18:33:18 GMT
If I had any say in it the surface stock would have NEM pockets but fitted with a replica of the prototype coupling (3-link, screw or buckeye etc.) so that you can fit your own choice. Wheels would probably be the same and like the EFE stock where you can change them to ones of your choice, and in many cases people will want to motorise some models. Remember that these are firstly a collectors series like the current 'Great British Locomotives' series.
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Post by phillw48 on Aug 21, 2015 17:17:56 GMT
Whilst solely underground trains would be of interest the spectrum would be broadened if it included all of London's transports, including trams, DLR, buses, and possibly even mainline railways. As for Underground trains I'd like to see the Cravens trains, the Watford Joint stock, the Pullman coaches, the Southend Corridor Express carriages, gate end rolling stock, the experimental sliding door carriages on the powst-war Met Line and ancient historic Metropolitan and District railway stock extending all the way back to 1863. Simon I meant all of the above and inclusive of the Waterloo and City, the Great Northern and City, the GE stock used on the Epping Ongar line. If you include engineering stock and none passenger coaching stock such as the Metropolitan milk van there is 180 to 200 items of stock.
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Post by phillw48 on Aug 20, 2015 23:05:45 GMT
Most of us are familiar with part-works from the likes of Atlas and Hatchet. Over recent months I have purchased several models produced by Atlas in particular. These have been of various French railcars in HO scale and are very similar in nature to the EFE tube stock and of similar quality and detail. There appears to be two or three similar series with different themes (Michelin, Suburban, Regional). I was wondering if a similar series covering the Underground would attract any interest. It could cover anything from the early steam stock to quite recent stock and both tube and surface stock. It could even include models that would not otherwise be expected to be produced such as the 1960 Cravens stock. The LT Museum might even consider sponsoring such a series. What are the forum members thoughts on this?
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Post by phillw48 on Jul 26, 2015 17:41:06 GMT
Barking?
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Post by phillw48 on Jul 25, 2015 22:17:36 GMT
There were some photographs on Facebook of some of the converted locomotives being returned by road recently. Look up 'UK trains on trucks'.
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Post by phillw48 on Jul 23, 2015 22:22:38 GMT
Ongar + 3
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Post by phillw48 on Jul 21, 2015 23:05:54 GMT
If you use Google Chrome you can also use Google translate.
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Post by phillw48 on Jul 14, 2015 22:46:11 GMT
Hopefully next time he does it there will be a power surge enough to fry his i-player or whatever he plugged into it.
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Post by phillw48 on Jul 7, 2015 10:47:36 GMT
I've checked my copy of 'The Brill Tramway' by Bill Simpson, it has the gradient profile that you require on page 111.
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Post by phillw48 on Jun 30, 2015 20:50:40 GMT
HI cannot see video says This video is private. FISH7373 Thats unusual as others can see it. IIRC if it says it is private there is a box somewhere that you can click on to watch it on Youtube (its embedded on here).
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Post by phillw48 on Jun 29, 2015 20:17:11 GMT
Here's how it was done
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Post by phillw48 on Jun 28, 2015 20:21:32 GMT
Some other photos have appeared on Facebook under 'UK TRAINS ON TRUCKS'.
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Post by phillw48 on Jun 26, 2015 21:26:41 GMT
A insert the Eden Project.
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Post by phillw48 on Jun 6, 2015 10:03:33 GMT
It was due for the axe under Beeching but a local campaign combined with the local constituency being a Tory marginal saved it. (But not the local MP as he lost the seat.)
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Post by phillw48 on Jun 5, 2015 21:23:46 GMT
As the branch only requires one unit it is probably more economic to use a standard unit rather than a 'one off' dedicated unit, whether it be a different type or an older unit kept for use on the branch.
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Post by phillw48 on Jun 1, 2015 21:45:59 GMT
Shame that Bachmann are only supplying via the L T museum as you can normally get discounts from other suppliers. I think the prices are a bit exorbitant. There is also a commissioned NER Atlantic that has been released at £180 and one should expect to pay something in the region of £100 to £200 for a 00 scale R-T-R steam locomotive so £280 for a four car unit that does not have many livery variations to cover costs is quite reasonable.
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Post by phillw48 on May 31, 2015 23:06:19 GMT
Finsbury Park.
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Post by phillw48 on May 31, 2015 23:04:18 GMT
I thought that they were destroyed almost immediately after withdrawal. Also withdrawn (from LPTB tracks) in 1939 were the last of the GWR trains over what nowadays would be called the northern side of the Circle Line. These used the City Stock carriages and were hauled by Met Railway electric locomotives. Simon The Pullman cars were repainted not long after going into service as the Pullman cream and white roofs didn't wear well in the Metropolitan tunnels. They were both eventually scrapped about 1946 after being used by the army.
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