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Post by decaded on Aug 20, 2022 15:58:09 GMT
During the late '50's and certainly while the existing Barking LU Cabin was being built/commissioned c.1959, the weekend through Southend Central trains originated off the Midland main line (one certainly started from Bedford/ St Albans, others from St.Pancras and Kentish Town at different times. Quite often the haulage was a Midland Class 4F 0-6-0, a sight to behold going flat out on the curves at Pitsea with a rake of Ex Midland or early BR Mk1 Suburban non-corridor stock in tow ! I "think" but dont quote me, that the through services beyond Barking finished after the extensive track re-modelling during '59/60 when Platform 1 became a bay road reversing point only,having previously
having access beyond the station road bridge to the Down Southend road. If wrong,and I was only a 10/11 ish at the time, please correct me if positive !
Kevin
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Post by decaded on Jul 2, 2022 18:08:09 GMT
Just a few observations here.....as one of the Barking /Upminster "signallers" mentioned, I would add that since the cable fire / explosion at the East end of Upney sidings adjacent to 21 Rd several weeks back, to this day and for the near future we have NO interaction / control over train movements East of Barking (including DGE) except entry & exit from the Sidings (West end only,NOT Upney end) and then only 26E/W > 29E/W Roads (21 > 25 still out of use due to same issue, no points/signals/control). The Signalling Diagram continually shows a continuous "Tracks Down" both roads Upney > Elm Park approach, + no Signal or Points indications at all. Alternatively it displays all tracks "Up" + all signal indications in the DGE area as Dual Aspects + all points in both directions including the Siding in<>out Reversed!.No trains are visualled though so no . And still we run a full train service (except,again, the the M-F DGE reverser's get turned round in the restricted capacity Barking Sidings, get extended to Upminster (T41 a favourite)....or get cancelled Ex EC Dt. The Auto-phone system has been/still is dead (except 1 phone line still working thanks to the old Fax machine still live).
40 points (EB to Bay Rd) is also out of use for near 2 weeks following constant failures , (this is the 20mph TSR stretch)... trains booked to reverse there either having to go via the Sidings (26 > 29 ,along with the H&C trains) , or via Plaistow Bay rd.....or get cancelled due to congestion. There is (allegedly) work this weekend to install new Stock & Switch kit to 40's so "hopefully" we'll get Pl 3 Bay back soon.
Re the East Ham - Barking Curve , this was a much better ride on the D Stock trains as I remember, something to do with the type of Bogies fitted during their Refurb.
Ref Upminster : The thormn in the side here is still the entry (EB) into Pl 5, which to this day has the Speed controlled trainstop at the approach end, ready to bring the unwary to an inglorious stop! This was fitted yers ago to protect the newly fitted (prior to D stock Refurb days) points at the East end of Pl 5 which have never been completed due to the plans to remove said trains via Romford was abandoned,including rerouting the OHL away from the mid-track termination structure in Pl 6. The controlled approach was never needed before and is still not required now, but the powers that be cannot/will not authorise the removal of the un-needed half constructed points and train arrester equipment to re-enable a more normal approach speed.
Happy Days !
Kevin
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Post by decaded on Jun 23, 2021 12:54:08 GMT
Platform 1 : They are then split. I'm sure Pl.1 could just about accomodate 10 car trains given the distance to the Starter signal. We see them under our windows in the LU Cabin, adjacent.
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Post by decaded on Apr 23, 2021 13:13:13 GMT
There is a sign next to the lift at platform level... ...but when you press the lift call button the doors open and the lift goes up. However when I walked past the ticket barrier I noticed a rather substantial member of staff posted in the lift alcove although I didn't ask whether he was there to check tickets or not. They are "security" staff and have no jurisdiction over ticketing etc. The lift is in & out free access to all platforms 24/7. The crowds that descend on it after arrivals of the "Goblin" trains have to be seen.
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Post by decaded on Apr 21, 2021 10:45:22 GMT
There is a constant flow of freeloaders and other undesirables using this lift to bypass the barriers all day every day,you can track them on our cctv.There is no supervision or deterrent .
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Post by decaded on Dec 19, 2017 12:15:01 GMT
During the 80's when I was train side on the Central,there were scheduled late night Saturday + all day Sunday White City - Leytonstone (rev pl.2) trips...plus a few "under the Cabin" reveresers as mentioned. Via 37 points.....had forgotten (shown on the diagram). When I left the trains and went into the cabins,(talking early '90s here) Leytonstone went to an NX panel replacing the lever frame as the new Westinghouse signalling progressed eastwards.
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Post by decaded on Jul 29, 2017 0:47:38 GMT
Pre-made sets of points incorrectly installed and failing to operate when tested.
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Post by decaded on Apr 15, 2017 21:50:56 GMT
The sound dept. havnt twigged on the changeover yet.... S stock with the sound of D stock motors still !
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Post by decaded on Apr 14, 2017 12:57:56 GMT
If 7018/7057 does stay at Bs (21 Road is the default ) till Tuesday without being swapped with an S from Upm Dt (it happens), then it's next working would be the 05:45 ex-Barking starter to Upminster on Tuesday.
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Post by decaded on Apr 12, 2017 23:51:04 GMT
Would be nice if 7007 had the Olympic rings reinstated for the finalities.
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Post by decaded on Mar 3, 2017 23:17:29 GMT
"Olympic" 7007 & friend not seen today. 054 was 7057+7032 till 00:45 Lillie Bridge Dt. 107 was 7095+7012 till 21:55 Upminster Dt. 041 was 7046+7503 until evening S/D stock c/o with 122. ...now on 122 till Upminster Dt. 00:20
k.
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Post by decaded on Mar 3, 2017 23:05:24 GMT
Why would Vivarail care about the motors given they are converting the units to diesel? I can see why they would require the bogies/car shell etc. to be in good condition. The motors stay.....it's the method of supplying current to them that changes....hence the gen-sets fitted.
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Post by decaded on Mar 2, 2017 22:18:04 GMT
Anyone looking for some late night D stock action tonight will look in vain.....they've all had an early night : 002 : "Olympic" 7007/7018 , stabled Upminster Dt. 19:40 105 : 7012/7095 , stabled Upminster Dt. 19:50 004 : 7057/7032 , stabled Ealing Com. Dt. 18:25 Kevin
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Post by decaded on Mar 2, 2017 1:02:28 GMT
Late turn at Barking today (01 March) and the D count was : 101 : 7032/7057 105 : "Olympic" 7007/7018 021 : 7012/7095 .....+ noticed radio live in EC Dt on 7046 showing recent use on T.125
Kevin
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Post by decaded on Feb 26, 2017 0:43:24 GMT
I'm sure by one of his colleagues that I was told John had retired if he hasn't and you see him next wish him all the best please I will....in fact next weekend we're both on nights K.
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Post by decaded on Feb 25, 2017 18:39:13 GMT
As one of his colleagues,I can assure you that John has not retired,and continues to hold the fort at Whitechapel.....probably until the end. K.
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Post by decaded on Feb 17, 2017 19:57:10 GMT
pm service : 005 7057/7018 054 7037/7526 106 7007/7018
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Post by decaded on Feb 11, 2017 1:13:49 GMT
I wondered what was going on after 5 ish onwards, searching for 24 on Connect to get the other unit number, it showed radio areas NEN , ALP,PKR then back to NEN when i next looked , and finally ECM ! Then 24 became an S stock and 02 the D ! Didnt have time to investigate what I assumed to be an error,as was busy with my own trains at Upminster.....although it did make me think back to last year's trip to Amersham !
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Post by decaded on Feb 10, 2017 23:12:25 GMT
Right then,today's p.m. D service ,again,different to previous days. If one thing is consistant with the D stock "finalities" it is the inconsistancy of the daily set workings. Today,for example,not one train ex-Upminster Depot in the afternoon run-out. So then...... 16 - 7046+7503 36 - 7095+7012 06 - 7533+7016 24 - 7018+7007....until about 17 30 when it disappeared off the radar for a while,to re-emerge later, after reform as..... 02, for single journey to Upminster Dt (along with 06 & 16 later on).
K
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Post by decaded on Feb 9, 2017 22:07:03 GMT
So today's p.m. runners .....only 4 today,and different to yesterday's ... 101 - 7016+7533 to Up.Dt 22:00 105 - 7012+7095 to Up Dt 19:50 012 - 7018+7007 to EC.Dt 20:40 056 - 7503+7046 to Lillie Bridge Dt 21:00
So,an early night for these four ! Kevin Back at Upminster cabin tomorrow (and Sat).
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Post by decaded on Feb 8, 2017 22:06:14 GMT
just back from Upminster late turn...........so,to recap for this evening's D workings (all confirmed/seen....all to time,very good day!) : 102...7016/7533 (to Up Dt 22:10) 106...7030/7535 (to EC Dt 01:05) 107...7007/7018 (to Up Dt 21:50) 025...7012/7095 (to Up Dt 00:45) 035...7503/7046 (to Up Dt 00:10)
Kevin
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Post by decaded on Feb 7, 2017 23:13:37 GMT
Only 2 D stock running in the p.m. period today : T102 : 7503+7046 (stabled Upminster 22-10) , and T107 : 7016+7533 (stabled Upminster 21-50). 7007+7018 shunted within Upminster Depot via the train wash,but didnt enter service. 7032/7012/7057 at Ealing Common Depot all had live Connect radio during the period,but no further details. K.
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Post by decaded on Nov 1, 2016 12:59:47 GMT
this pic from the tfl forum (they are also on FB)..http://www.theltforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=1839
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Post by decaded on Oct 3, 2016 12:17:56 GMT
Initially a lot of H&C Barking sidings reversers were "taken out",but once the powers that be see you've got things running,despite not being able to "see" a train,the full timetable gets restored.Actually,through running (I take it you mean everything going to Upminster) would mean destroying the entire timetable as the Bay-road reversers would go as would the H&C service. Next job is to get (hopefully) the cable fault "fixed" (as per modern day parlance) , west of Hornchurch meaning every single W/B T.D. is lost and has to be re-inserted....but is lost/scrambled again by Whitechapel ! No part of the District signalling equipment can be assumed to be o.k. tomorrow because it is o.k. today ! K.
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Post by decaded on Oct 2, 2016 23:39:46 GMT
I have spent Saturday and Sunday late turns at Barking Cabin,and had it not been for the slightly reduced service intervals,it would have been a damn sight worse than it has been. At 08:27 Saturday morning ,contractors working for NR/c2c managed to sever a main supply cable near East Ham (i'm told) which made the cabin Diagram display continuous red "tracks down" all the way from Bow Road to a point midway between East Ham and Barking , no signal indications,no T.D.'s ,no CCTV,and clocks stopped at 8.27. By the afternoon,a section between West Ham and Plaistow was restored,but other than that it has been blind operation of the signalling between Barking and Bromley both ways all weekend,relying totally on colleagues at Whitechapel and Upminster advising of out-of-step trains etc so as to know whats next and where it should be going.Trackside you wouldnt have noticed any difference. Keeping on top of it has been a challenge at first ,not least because of the lack of the clock on the wall at which we constantly look at to do the train booking sheets........mobile phone clock to the rescue! ,and hope no-one SPADS at East Ham or Bromley because I wouldnt see it with no signal aspects showing (no display !). All platform T.D.'s were wrong,testimount to the number of radio calls I had from drivers saying they noticed at xxx station that it said Upminster when they were going to Barking and vice versa etc..............so,it was still like it when I left tonight,they had a go Sunday morning but it was unsuccessful. Hopefully tonight.....? All in all I think between us all at the East end over the weekend we did our best (as usual) to keep the trains running to time. Kevin
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Post by decaded on Sept 25, 2016 1:07:25 GMT
Cause was a cable fault that caused signals on the W/B Plaistow/West Ham to fail along with all T.D.transmission codes and numerous track circuits in the area. Traction current had to be discharged for an hour or so whilst the said cable,the length of the platform + under-track, was replaced....(i was told when I got in for my late turn at Whitechapel). At one point we had a continuous line of trains from South Ken back to Bromley...and at the same time about 6 trains on the E/B ,same area !Some trains in excess of 80m late and timetable shot to pieces....Night man took me off and it was just coming back together after dozens of reforms and short trips. Horrendous day !
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Post by decaded on Sept 24, 2016 1:32:25 GMT
I was in the rear car (7016) of T22 tonight from Whitechapel to Upminster ,and there was a continuous high pitched"beep-beep-beep-beep...." from the rear cab all the way for the 40-odd minutes i was on board....what would that have been ?
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Post by decaded on Sept 18, 2016 12:36:20 GMT
Should get 15 & 16 together later on at Upminster,pl 3/4 or 4/5,if only for a few minutes...not sure where 32 fits in though for a treble till I get in at 4!
Edit 6 hours later : All were still running other than 32 which stabled Upminster 20:05
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Post by decaded on Sept 17, 2016 21:57:47 GMT
Can confirm those numbers....11,34 & 35 almost made a quartet together (twice) at Upminster spoilt by 12 being an S! Rare occasion now to get 2 D's in the station at the same time...and twice on my late shift in the cabin there today...only as everything was,near as dammit,right time. Kevin
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Post by decaded on Jun 22, 2016 14:32:38 GMT
Found these pics of D stock at Long Marston (trade visit) on todays FB post from UK HeritageHub..........https://www.facebook.com/groups/ukheritagehub/?fref=nf
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