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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2009 9:56:37 GMT
Unless I'm mistaken, I noticed last night passing through Earls Court that the refurbished boards now appear to have black over the arrows - they certainly look much much better now. A vast improvement, the arrows are nice and clear now. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Apr 24, 2009 19:26:15 GMT
Unless I'm mistaken, I noticed last night passing through Earls Court that the refurbished boards now appear to have black over the arrows - they certainly look much much better now. A vast improvement, the arrows are nice and clear now. Yes, a great improvement- at last! Picture: tinyurl.com/cl5s66 -before. tinyurl.com/czn6pv -after. |
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Post by upfast on Apr 24, 2009 19:52:10 GMT
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Post by Oracle on Apr 24, 2009 20:35:25 GMT
Excellent!
I am out of touch so must ask if there are any scheduled Barking / Dagenham/ Plaistow reversers these days?
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Post by metman on Apr 24, 2009 21:12:37 GMT
There are certainly Barking reversers in the peaks and on Sundays. I believe Dagenham East and Plaistow are used for service recovery. Not sure if they are in the everyday timetable, a District man/women would have to answer that.
The light boxes look great, least we're looking after our history somewhere!
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Post by upfast on Apr 24, 2009 21:13:30 GMT
Excellent! I am out of touch so must ask if there are any scheduled Barking / Dagenham/ Plaistow reversers these days? Yes to the first two. I don't believe that there are any normal Plaistow District reversers. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2009 21:20:17 GMT
There are certainly Barking reversers in the peaks and on Sundays. I believe Dagenham East and Plaistow are used for service recovery. Not sure if they are in the everyday timetable, a District man/women would have to answer that. I believe the City trains from Wimbledon alternate between Tower Hill, Barking and Dagenham East at peak hours. Plaistow isn't regularly used by District line trains. |
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Post by astock5000 on Apr 24, 2009 22:05:50 GMT
If there are Wimbledon - Tower Hill trains in the peaks, then were do Ealing trains terminate, (as they use Tower Hill off peak)?
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Post by upfast on Apr 24, 2009 22:09:37 GMT
If there are Wimbledon - Tower Hill trains in the peaks, then were do Ealing trains terminate, (as they use Tower Hill off peak)? A mixture of Barking sidings, Upminster and (I think) Dagenham East. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2009 22:48:43 GMT
If there are Wimbledon - Tower Hill trains in the peaks, then were do Ealing trains terminate, (as they use Tower Hill off peak)? I think they just use Upminster at peak hours. |
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Post by Colin on Apr 25, 2009 3:04:42 GMT
A mixture of Barking sidings, Upminster and (I think) Dagenham East. tsk tsk - call yourself a signaller?!!  **where I mention a weekend day, I'm referring to the normal timetable without any engineering works** Ealing Broadway trains go to Tower Hill off peak, but Upminster during the peaks (and early morning/late evening Mon - Sat only). Wimbledon D stocks (ie, excluding the Edgware Road service) go to Upminster Mon - Fri off peak and all day Saturday. During the peaks they go to Tower Hill, Barking & Dagenham East alternating in that order. On Sundays, they go to Barking only all day. The Richmond service generally goes to Upminster at all times. Edgware Road to Wimbledon and High Street Ken to Olympia are just that and don't deviate. Of course there are many odd variations to suit crew or stock positioning, particularly at the start and end of each day, but those are the District's main service patterns. As for service recovery points, the usual places are Dagenham East, Barking, Mansion House, Parsons Green & High Street Ken - anywhere else is likely to be rather rare and worthy of a photo  |
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Post by upfast on Apr 25, 2009 10:01:44 GMT
There are definatly timetabled trains from Ealing/Acton to Dagenham East and Barking
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 27, 2010 17:30:07 GMT
A slight update to this thread, since this photo was taken by cso last weekend: tinyurl.com/2wr3zktthey have added "STOPS HERE" to the bottom of both pfm 3 & 4. I guess this will be for the terminating C Stocks going empty to Olympia and stabling at Lillie Bridge? tinyurl.com/36z4jhx today |
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Post by 21146 on Nov 27, 2010 17:58:22 GMT
Run passenger to Olympia and avoid blocking the road up on the west at Earl's Court.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 27, 2010 18:29:59 GMT
Run passenger to Olympia and avoid blocking the road up on the west at Earl's Court. Good thought, nobody to tip trains out tho ! |
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Post by 21146 on Nov 27, 2010 22:16:21 GMT
Run passenger to Olympia and avoid blocking the road up on the west at Earl's Court. Good thought, nobody to tip trains out tho ! I would have thought the driver could do it whilst changing ends? |
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Post by District Dave on Nov 28, 2010 11:33:06 GMT
But the Lillie Bridge stablers will (I'm pretty sure) all be after the last ex-OLY service and how will the sleepers etc. het back to ECT. All in the name of cistomer service.
Similarly trains stabling ex West Ken will tip out at Hammersmith - again because of detrainment.
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Post by 21146 on Nov 28, 2010 16:22:19 GMT
I would have thought they're in the same situation as someone who wakes up at Upminster, I guess it's the lack of an LU station presence at OLY that's the issue here. Does the UPM DTSM count as detrainment staff? (As I believe c2c personal are only intrested in transport photographers?)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2010 20:52:52 GMT
There's no LU presence as such at Upminster (The DTSM may but usually wont get involved, depends who it is) and at least an hours worth of sleepers have no return to the city, also no night bus service at or even near to Upminster. Likewise the Richmond stabler has no LU staff presence.
However detrainment of sleepers is the reason for the stablers running empty from Earls Court / Hammersmith.
Sleepers/vagrants/Drunks can refuse to alight and become violent, sad but i think a reasonable decision.
Trains stabling in denegrated running conditions or because of no relief or such like, do detrain at Olympia or West Kensington as appropriate (other than late at night there is no significant risk to the operator).
Far less justifiable is all the early morning starters from Lillie Bridge to Olympia thence running EMPTY to Earls Court !!! An opportunity for an earlier service and associated "improvements" spin clearly missed.
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Post by Chris M on Nov 29, 2010 3:25:38 GMT
Far less justifiable is all the early morning starters from Lillie Bridge to Olympia thence running EMPTY to Earls Court !!! An opportunity for an earlier service and associated "improvements" spin clearly missed. Perhaps that's waiting for a future timetable - don't want to spoil the opportunity for a local councillor/MP/assembly member/mayor to feel like they've accomplished something. |
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Post by uzairjubilee on Oct 9, 2021 10:59:28 GMT
<<Posts merged from 'New DMIs at Earl's Court' thread - goldenarrow>>
Hello!
On Thursday I noticed that there are now two of the 3-line DMIs on each platform at ECT. They are covered and say 'Not in use', but I wanted to ask whether these are replacing the next train arrow indicators, or the more square shaped display on both ends of platforms 1/2 & 3/4, which show the next 6/7 trains and their destinations?
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Post by goldenarrow on Oct 9, 2021 11:40:39 GMT
The historic Train Describers (already heavily modified circa 2008) are listed assets.
Underground News reports that they are undergoing modifications to continue to be operable when CBTC is commissioned in this area as part of SMA 5.
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Post by spsmiler on Oct 9, 2021 14:27:22 GMT
The historic Train Describers (already heavily modified circa 2008) are listed assets. Underground News reports that they are undergoing modifications to continue to be operable when CBTC is commissioned in this area as part of SMA 5. Good! Its a shame that the westbound historic train describer at Barons Court has now fallen by the wayside. Oh and that not even one each of the Central line and Northern line similar devices remain extant at a station somewhere. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 9, 2021 16:03:13 GMT
Hello! On Thursday I noticed that there are now two of the 3-line DMIs on each platform at ECT. They are covered and say 'Not in use', but I wanted to ask whether these are replacing the next train arrow indicators, or the more square shaped display on both ends of platforms 1/2 & 3/4, which show the next 6/7 trains and their destinations? sadly they block the legacy describers from certain angles and distances.  |
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Post by Tom on Oct 9, 2021 16:52:07 GMT
Underground News reports that they are undergoing modifications to continue to be operable when CBTC is commissioned in this area as part of SMA 5. I've seen the designs to disconnect them from the legacy signalling in the last week or so. |
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Post by roman80 on Oct 9, 2021 17:15:14 GMT
Are the new displays dependent on SMA5 going live to be accurate and commissioned?
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Post by Tom on Oct 9, 2021 20:02:41 GMT
As far as I'm aware, yes.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2021 1:07:18 GMT
Even with 2 sets of these each platform you wont see them correctly as they too small.
Like to know how they going to use the next EB city though instead of the light boxes??
The originals could easily been connected to the new system with a interface of some sort. It would only take time and effort if they wanted too but of course that would come at a cost which the project does not have.
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Post by class411 on Oct 10, 2021 8:44:31 GMT
Even with 2 sets of these each platform you wont see them correctly as they too small. LU's position seems to be that so long as they are it doesn't matter whether or not they are visible/readable along the entire length of the platform. This position is to some extent forced upon them by various other necessary items obscuring their view. Presumably they decided that there was no point in going to the expense of giant indicators when there was so often a need for passengers to reposition themselves to avoid obstructions. |
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Post by spsmiler on Oct 10, 2021 11:47:22 GMT
Even with 2 sets of these each platform you wont see them correctly as they too small. LU's position seems to be that so long as they are it doesn't matter whether or not they are visible/readable along the entire length of the platform. This position is to some extent forced upon them by various other necessary items obscuring their view. Presumably they decided that there was no point in going to the expense of giant indicators when there was so often a need for passengers to reposition themselves to avoid obstructions. Its a matter of astonishment, because the large displays which had larger text and often also displayed several colours were ever so much easier to read from a distance along the platform - and now these have all been replaced with displays that are physically so much smaller so even if they did not show another line of text they would still have been unreadable unless one is very close to them. Also, I wonder how disability groups (especially those that deal with partially sighted people) feel about the new smaller displays. My thoughts are along the lines of something that could be read by the 'visually impaired' being replaced by something that is too small and hence much less easy to read by visually impaired people. Maybe though my thinking here is flawed and I am missing something? |
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