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Post by Dstock7080 on Dec 14, 2008 18:43:43 GMT
All the 'restored' describers are now uncovered and working, although the illuminated arrows are lit very dimly! They will be difficult to see now that the roof decking is finally coming down.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2008 23:49:59 GMT
All the 'restored' describers are now uncovered and working, although the illuminated arrows are lit very dimly! They will be difficult to see now that the roof decking is finally coming down. Indeed so, the "unlit" arrows are not obscured in the way they were previously so it's pretty hard to see which arrow is actually lit ....and yes why are they so dim, given the tungsten bulbs have been replaced by flourescent tubes !!! |
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Post by astock5000 on Dec 16, 2008 20:20:30 GMT
I see we're still stuck with the combined "High Street Kensington And Edgware Road" plate - that one is always guaranteed to cause confusion; it would be so much easier if it simply said "Edgware Road". I don't see why it causes confusion, but if it does, then maybe it should just say Edgware Road, and have High Street Kensington on the sign underneath (the 'For Notting Hill Gate and Paddington...' sign). |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2008 19:47:55 GMT
All the 'restored' describers are now uncovered and working, although the illuminated arrows are lit very dimly! They will be difficult to see now that the roof decking is finally coming down. Indeed so, the "unlit" arrows are not obscured in the way they were previously so it's pretty hard to see which arrow is actually lit ....and yes why are they so dim, given the tungsten bulbs have been replaced by flourescent tubes !!! I recent have noticed these and think they made a very bad job of restoration here. They should have used obscure glass which would only show the lit arrow, instead of as now where all arrows are visible making the lit one hard to see. When the roof is finished and bright sunshine is allowed through these will be even harder to see. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2008 21:21:44 GMT
It's a cunning plan - they'll be able to show that customers passengers don't like them, then they can switch them out (the describers, not the passengers) and install DMIs instead...
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Post by londonstuff on Dec 28, 2008 23:22:54 GMT
Like I said in a previous post, surely someone has authorised the work on these and then signed them off once complete. They're so obviously bad not historically accurate that they shouldn't have been signed off: I'd say that the way these have been murdered restored it's not far off vandalism, tbh!
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Post by maxtube on Jan 10, 2009 18:57:42 GMT
I like the indicator with numbered-arrows that appeared on this thread a few pages back. I trust the arrow indicator at Gloucester Road is still there. Are the lightbox indicators at Harrow on the Hill still there? There is a picture in the book 'The Story of London's Underground' by John Reed and John R. Day of arrow indicators at St. James's Park. Are these still there?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2009 20:08:12 GMT
I like the indicator with numbered-arrows that appeared on this thread a few pages back. I trust the arrow indicator at Gloucester Road is still there. Are the lightbox indicators at Harrow on the Hill still there? There is a picture in the book 'The Story of London's Underground' by John Reed and John R. Day of arrow indicators at St. James's Park. Are these still there? Gloucester Road is stiil there, St James's Park went years ago when Dot Matrix indicaters were first tested. |
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Post by suncloud on Jan 11, 2009 15:07:34 GMT
Harrow on the Hill does indeed still use lightboxes... although platform 3's (I think) was out of action last night...
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Post by Ben on Jan 12, 2009 3:03:14 GMT
HOTH's set up is far more practical and easy to understand for the situation the Met finds it in then DMIs. If they are lost/scrapped/decomissioned heads should role, because they most appropriate way of converying the desired information to the passenger.
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Post by maxtube on Jan 25, 2009 16:09:47 GMT
I hope that the lightboxes at the last few stations are preserved. It was mentioned previously about DMI arrows at Charing Cross Jubilee. Another unique thing to Charing Cross Jubilee: solo2.abac.com/themole/freeicreamad.JPG |
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Post by happybunny on Jan 25, 2009 16:38:21 GMT
12 minute gap  ... free ice - cream.. what is that about ?? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2009 17:08:35 GMT
12 minute gap ... free ice - cream.. what is that about ?? This was a poster advertising campaign, I can't remember what for though. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2009 21:21:49 GMT
Changed trains at Earl's court to-day - the describers are useless - everyone was looking at the temporary ones. And they're ugly.
What a botched job!
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Post by maxtube on Jan 27, 2009 13:12:30 GMT
Does anyone have a photo of the temporary ones? Or are they just DMIs?
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Post by happybunny on Jan 27, 2009 13:20:57 GMT
Yeah found this one  |
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Post by maxtube on Jan 27, 2009 13:25:42 GMT
Thanks! Looks better than the destroyed restored describers.
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Post by happybunny on Jan 27, 2009 14:10:50 GMT
Yeah its much better.. I still don't see why they couldn't have just put the originals in a museum and installed dot matrix screens
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2009 17:24:49 GMT
Earl's Court Station is listed - so they aren't allowed to take down this important part of the station's heritage.
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Post by Ben on Jan 27, 2009 20:19:21 GMT
But they could have made it work properly!  Its function is to light an arrow next to the destination; but since the wrong glass was used all the arrows look lit all the time. Its just plain incompetance; if it could be managed in the 20s why not now? |
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Post by Tom on Jan 27, 2009 20:22:30 GMT
Thanks! Looks better than the destroyed restored describers. They'd look even better if they were pointing to the trains... looks like the ones for P4 were installed on P3 and vice versa. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Feb 17, 2009 18:42:47 GMT
The describers at Earl's Court have had some further work done. Yesterday the platform1, east face, had the light grey film over the arrows- today it was all faces on all platforms! (a shame that black hasn't been used!) Also, work has begun to externally illuminate the destination plates again. tinyurl.com/aswn5x |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2009 19:06:40 GMT
The describers at Earl's Court have had some further work done. Yesterday the platform1, east face, had the light grey film over the arrows- today it was all faces on all platforms! (a shame that black hasn't been used!) They do look better than they had since restoration. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2009 23:26:16 GMT
The describers at Earl's Court have had some further work done. Yesterday the platform1, east face, had the light grey film over the arrows- today it was all faces on all platforms! (a shame that black hasn't been used!) Also, work has begun to externally illuminate the destination plates again. images.fotopic.net/ywlfgr.jpgAhhh, they look much better ;D That guy seems to have spotted your sneaky photography   |
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Post by Tom on Feb 18, 2009 23:30:28 GMT
Looks like they've applied the second layer of obscured glass.
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Post by maxtube on Feb 19, 2009 13:17:18 GMT
The dancing arrows at Gloucester Road are, as far as I know listed. However, I'm not sure about the Gloucester Road lightboxes.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 25, 2009 19:11:58 GMT
Yeah found this one These have all been removed now. I thought they were keeping some at the far east-end of all the platforms?? |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 29, 2009 15:34:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2009 15:42:59 GMT
Those lights are switched on, on a bright sunny day! That really looks green to the travelling public and tourists. You would think the lights would be either connected to a timer or sensor. |
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Post by Colin on Apr 24, 2009 6:15:07 GMT
Unless I'm mistaken, I noticed last night passing through Earls Court that the refurbished boards now appear to have black over the arrows - they certainly look much much better now.
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Its function is to light an arrow next to the destination; but since the wrong glass was used all the arrows look lit all the time. Its just plain incompetance; if it could be managed in the 20s why not now?
