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Post by silenthunter on May 17, 2018 12:37:53 GMT
Sending a Class 20 by rail would involve getting and paying for a special path down the busy GEML.
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Post by norbitonflyer on May 17, 2018 13:29:14 GMT
Sending a Class 20 by rail would involve getting and paying for a special path down the busy GEML. It is possible to get from Ruislip to Norfolk by rail without using the GEML. |
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Post by silenthunter on May 17, 2018 14:29:58 GMT
Sending a Class 20 by rail would involve getting and paying for a special path down the busy GEML. It is possible to get from Ruislip to Norfolk by rail without using the GEML. True, but you still need a special path for it and that costs money. |
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Post by brigham on May 17, 2018 17:13:57 GMT
If the railways were working properly, it would simply be coupled 'inside' something going the right way.
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Post by silenthunter on May 17, 2018 18:07:32 GMT
There's very little that goes from Ruislip to Norfolk.
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Post by phil on May 17, 2018 18:33:44 GMT
]It can only be used 12 times per year. Use restricted to trains with paying customers on board. ...And there you have an example of the cause of inefficiency. Can you imagine delivering a motor-lorry to a site by rail, because 'the road entrance can only be used 12 times a year, and is limited to loaded vehicles only'? Its got NOTHING to do with 'Inefficiency' and everything to do with the residents / local Council in Sherringham who deliberately put significant restrictions on its use. They were able to do this due to British Rail ripping up the track across the former level crossing in the 1960s, thus meaning lots of special permissions had to be obtained to put it back. The acceptance of a 12 uses per year was one of those conditions and it makes sense for the NNR to reserve those uses for much more prestigious occasions than the return of a class 20 For those unaware the reinstated connection between the NNR & NR goes across the main high street plus through a small park and is effectively a Tramway rather than a fenced in railway / level crossing. Frequent use not only increases disruption, but the Tramway nature of the connection and the 'unprotected' nature of trains (as opposed to Trams which have lots of protective bodywork to try prevent things / people from getting under the wheels) massively heightens the risks |
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Post by norbitonflyer on May 17, 2018 21:09:38 GMT
But of course that means the good folks of North Norfolk still get locomotives trundling along their roads, except they are on the back of low loaders instead of on the short Sheringham "tramway"
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Post by phil on May 17, 2018 21:29:10 GMT
But of course that means the good folks of North Norfolk still get locomotives trundling along their roads, except they are on the back of low loaders instead of on the short Sheringham "tramway" Local residents views are rarely logical - however in a democracy local authorities are obliged to consider their objections seriously. It may be that in time, the restrictions (which are legally enshrined in the planning approval decision) can be eased. In the meantime use of the NNR and NR connection has to be limited. |
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Post by MoreToJack on May 17, 2018 23:39:16 GMT
Let's get back to LU heritage services chaps. If you do want to continue this thread please PM myself or another mod and we will split out the posts into a more general discussion about the movement of the LU-liveried class 20s. Broader Network Rail stuff is starting to get outwith our remit, however.
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Post by silenthunter on May 18, 2018 9:41:54 GMT
Why isn't the 38 stock train out more often?
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Post by MoreToJack on May 18, 2018 15:40:13 GMT
Why isn't the 38 stock train out more often? There are outstanding issues arising from its overhaul last year. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 17:05:10 GMT
Why isn't the 38 stock train out more often? There are outstanding issues arising from its overhaul last year. There are issues with it that date before the overhaul as well, some of which are quite serious. |
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Post by muzer on May 21, 2018 13:16:49 GMT
I know I'm a bit late, but did anyone by any chance get a copy of the working timetable for the London Underground part of the Quainton Road tour on 29th April? Obviously the Network Rail part is easy enough (with realtimetrains etc.), but I've checked through the timetable open data and (to the extent that I've been able to actually get my head round it) can't actually see it. If not, does anyone know which train number it was running as?
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 21, 2018 14:54:20 GMT
I know I'm a bit late, but did anyone by any chance get a copy of the working timetable for the London Underground part of the Quainton Road tour on 29th April? Obviously the Network Rail part is easy enough (with realtimetrains etc.), but I've checked through the timetable open data and (to the extent that I've been able to actually get my head round it) can't actually see it. If not, does anyone know which train number it was running as? T746. PM sent. |
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Post by spsmiler on Jul 16, 2018 14:24:15 GMT
Its mid July 2018 and i was wondering, will the steam on the District be running at the end of this month? (High St Kensington - Ealing Broadway).
I'm asking now because I have made a note on the kitchen calendar advising that nothing should be planned which includes me on the 29th July but not having seen any advance publicity I'm now wondering if that day must still be reserved for the steam trains.
Simon
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Post by spsmiler on Jul 16, 2018 14:31:22 GMT
But of course that means the good folks of North Norfolk still get locomotives trundling along their roads, except they are on the back of low loaders instead of on the short Sheringham "tramway" Probably it went to Weybourne, which is where the locomotive works is located and a much more remote location.
I was in the area about 10 days ago and saw the Class 20 there. Sorry, as yet no pictures online... am too much focused on making a film which incidentally will include sight of this locomotive - and more - of direct London Underground relevance.
Simon
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 16, 2018 14:32:40 GMT
Its mid July 2018 and i was wondering, will the steam on the District be running at the end of this month? (High St Kensington - Ealing Broadway). Simon Not happening this month. Delayed until at least January 2019 - if it happens at all. |
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Post by pauluni on Jul 19, 2018 13:12:38 GMT
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Post by MoreToJack on Jul 19, 2018 14:25:29 GMT
Two test trips to Uxbridge took place yesterday and the train has been on the South Ealing test track today. |
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Post by tjw on Jul 19, 2018 18:48:35 GMT
Another bit of news... The Bluebell owned Ashbury (Chesham) set of 4 carriages have been out of service due to worn locks, worn brake cylinders and a few split teak panels. The good news is the Brake 3rd (ex Driving Motor) and the 3rd (ex driving trailer) are now back in service. Work continues on the two 1st / 3rd composites. Hopefully they will be ready when Sarah returns...
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Post by spsmiler on Jul 19, 2018 22:12:38 GMT
Thanks for the answers.
Has any thought ever been given to borrowing the still surviving Dreadnoughts?
Simon
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Post by brigham on Jul 20, 2018 7:41:11 GMT
How many MET Dreadnoughts survive? I've ridden on one, and I've seen one other, which was still in the old LT 'painted brown' condition.
(I'm loath to use the word 'livery' here).
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Post by tjw on Jul 20, 2018 8:13:00 GMT
According to the Vintage Carriages Trust there are only the 3 Dreadnoughts owned by the trust... Metropolitan Railway Seven Compartment Brake Third No. 427 built 1910 Metropolitan Railway Nine Compartment Third No. 465 built 1919 Metropolitan Railway Seven Compartment First No. 509 built 1923 Link www.vintagecarriagestrust.org/Collection.htmFull list of known MR stock here, www.cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org/se/search.asp (you will need to add the search term Metropolitan from the drop down menu designed for) |
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Post by brigham on Jul 20, 2018 18:19:07 GMT
What a splendid site.
Bookmarked! Thanks.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Aug 1, 2018 10:49:49 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2018 12:04:34 GMT
Does anyone know where the ‘38 Stock will turn around today on its journey (from Harrow on the hill to Ealing) on the Uxbridge branch? As in will it use the siding at Rayners Lane it will it continue to Ruislip or Uxbridge?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Sept 9, 2018 12:16:50 GMT
Does anyone know where the ‘38 Stock will turn around today on its journey (from Harrow on the hill to Ealing) on the Uxbridge branch? As in will it use the siding at Rayners Lane it will it continue to Ruislip or Uxbridge? Rayners Lane 1635. |
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Post by muzer on Sept 27, 2018 23:20:58 GMT
Hi, what a great tour this was! I don't suppose anyone has a copy of the Timetable Notice that they're willing to share, for my records? I've searched online and have found no trace of it. EDIT: Never mind, someone on Railforums has obliged! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 19:07:01 GMT
Hi, what a great tour this was! I don't suppose anyone has a copy of the Timetable Notice that they're willing to share, for my records? I've searched online and have found no trace of it. EDIT: Never mind, someone on Railforums has obliged! Lol, you realise the person who gave you a copy is the same person who posted above you in this thread (and an admin on this site xD) |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jan 22, 2019 16:12:28 GMT
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