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Post by metroland on Jan 18, 2013 13:41:49 GMT
Thunderbirds? You do realise that it was a fictional program and no such thing exists? WHAAAT? You'll be telling me next that Thomas isn't real. Surely not?
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Post by carltona on Jan 18, 2013 14:05:18 GMT
What no Isle of Sodor or Tidmouth Sidings? I've definately seen a Fat Controller at Picc Circus.
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Post by metroland on Jan 18, 2013 14:27:55 GMT
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Post by grahamhewett on Jan 18, 2013 15:55:09 GMT
The rescue locos on the "upstairs" railway - cl47 or cl73 - were also called Thunderbirds but the term seemed to come in no earlier than c1987.
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Post by metroland on Jan 18, 2013 16:37:14 GMT
I really hope the snow forecast doesn't muck up the weekend Transport Museum website says a decision will be taken by 2pm. OK back to the serious stuff. I couldn't see that message about 2pm decision - I guess I was looking in the wrong place. Has anything been communicated about it def being on/off?
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Post by Chris W on Jan 18, 2013 16:57:06 GMT
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Post by Antje on Jan 19, 2013 20:21:59 GMT
I'm sure that the Steam engine could cope as the Tornado had shown in December 2009: news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8428097.stmThunderbirds? You do realise that it was a fictional program and no such thing exists? WHAAAT? You'll be telling me next that Thomas isn't real. Surely not? Sorry, but Thomas isn't real. It's just a TV show and TV-land is the only place where delays have to be "staged".
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Post by metroland on Jan 19, 2013 20:39:05 GMT
[/quote] Sorry, but Thomas isn't real. It's just a TV show and TV-land is the only place where delays have to be "staged".[/quote]
Thomas is indeed real, he's an E2 tank from London Brighton and South Coast Railway - just look at the outline.
The Rev Awdry didn't have much imagination so when his son pestered him for stories he drew from real life - the E2 being a loco that pottered around near somewhere he often stayed as child.
All the original 23 stories are drawn from Awdry's own life or things he knew about but didn't actually invent.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jan 20, 2013 0:37:03 GMT
Wilbert Awdry wrote the first 26 books - a further 16 were written by his son Christopher. He was always careful to base his stories on things that had happened on the real-life railway: for example James sliding backwards on wet leaves whilst ion forward gear is actually cited in the book as relating to a real event in Dinton Tunnel near Weymouth. Awdry was often scathing of un-railwaymanlike happenings depicted in the TV series, over which it seems he had less editorial control than he would have liked.
Seven different illustrators (including a husband-and wife partnership) have been used: Thomas did not appear in the first book, so it was Reginald Payne, who illustrated the 2nd to 4th books, who was responsible for Thomas's appearance, and he did indeed draw from locomotives local to his Brighton home.
Although many of the early, and best known, locomotives did not closely resemble any particular type, (Henry in particular appears to switch from a 4-6-0 to a 4-6-2 in the space of a few pages), they do gradually settle down, for example in later books Gordon is stated to be a brother to the Flying Scotsman, whilst Henry, after his rebuild in the sixth book, is a Black Five (well, a green one!). Thomas is also rebuilt, in the twelfth book, to rectify an odd feature he had in the first few books: his front buffer beam was lower than the rear one. From Toby, who first appears in the seventh book, all new characters are based on real locomotives.
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Post by metrailway on Jan 20, 2013 1:04:33 GMT
I've heard that the design of Annie and Clarabel on the TV series was based on Metropolitan Railway carriages. No idea if it is true.
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Post by metroland on Jan 20, 2013 10:00:27 GMT
When Awdry was first ordained, his first parish was in Cambridgeshire - hence his affection for the nearby Wisbech and Upwell and of course Toby et al from there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 13:41:25 GMT
I've heard that the design of Annie and Clarabel on the TV series was based on Metropolitan Railway carriages. No idea if it is true. Not quite. Wikipedia says:
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Post by christopher125 on Jan 20, 2013 14:09:51 GMT
Looks like it is going ahead tonight:
Last Updated: 20 January, 13:55
NOTICE: We are still planning on running the steam train on Sunday 20 January, as part of the Tube 150 celebrations. Please keep an eye on the website for up to date information.
Please note that if the train is cancelled and we are unable to reschedule, ticket holders will be entitled to a full refund.
Chris
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Post by ianvisits on Jan 20, 2013 14:35:17 GMT
Such a pity there wasn't a run during the daylight today - steam trains always look so nice in the snow.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jan 20, 2013 17:10:22 GMT
When Awdry was first ordained, his first parish was in Cambridgeshire - hence his affection for the nearby Wisbech and Upwell and of course Toby et al from there. His first parish as rector was Elsworth, between Huntingdon and Cambridge, but he had previously been curate at three parishes, the last, at Kings Norton near Birmingham, being where the measles epidemic took place which led to the creation of Thomas et al. His second parish as rector was at Emneth, about halfway between Wisbech and Upwell, but he did not move there until 1953: the year after "Toby" was published and steam traction ended on the line (it was not closed until 1966, latterly using D2200-class diesels similar to "Mavis"). Henrietta is also based on authentic W&U rolling stock, although passenger services had ceased in 1927. At least one of the carriages was still extant in 1953 however, as it was used in the Ealing Comedy , "The Titfield Thunderbolt" obituary here
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Post by phillw48 on Jan 20, 2013 17:36:17 GMT
The carriage used in 'The Titfield Thunderbolt' was indeed restored in preparation for preservation, as was a Victorian LT&SR coach then they were both inexplicably scrapped! However the body of another of the same type of coach was discovered in use as a chicken shed. This has now been restored and is operating on the North Norfolk Railway.
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Post by castlebar on Jan 20, 2013 17:51:55 GMT
Another Victorian carriage was recently spotted in a front garden, in Primrose Lane, SHELTON, near Norwich being used as a woodshed. I wonder if it is too late to preserve it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 22:38:06 GMT
I was lucky enough to get a ride in carriage 353 this evening on the 1915 departure. There was a points failure at Edgware Rd so we ended up having an extended trip from Moorgate to Gloucester Road and back!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 22:46:05 GMT
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Post by andypurk on Jan 20, 2013 22:54:09 GMT
I was lucky enough to get a ride in carriage 353 this evening on the 1915 departure. There was a points failure at Edgware Rd so we ended up having an extended trip from Moorgate to Gloucester Road and back! Ahh, I wondered where the train went!! I had a ride on the 18.19 from Olympia and thought that I had time to get down to Edgware Road to photograph it reversing; only it wasn't there.
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Post by metman on Jan 20, 2013 23:08:41 GMT
Will there be some more trips in the Summer?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 0:08:20 GMT
On the 1819 departure from Olympia. What an evening. Very surreal experience travelling over a (fairly) familiar route (aside from the Olympia branch which was a first for me) in rolling stock from another age (though not my namesake - not near enough the steam loco for me!).
Both locos seemed to be working hard with Met 1 putting in a show on departure from Olympia, and providing the necessary smoke effects at various points under London. Wonderful combination of Steam+Snow added to the magic of the evening, although leaves a number of outside photos covered in white dots!. A really great way to celebrate an important milestone. I hope steam on cut and cover is repeated again during the 10 year boiler certificate - LU know it can be done and people behave themselves, so why not, even if its just with the BR 4TC set? This said, shame to waste the Vac brake installation on No.12...!. Looking forward to May (Steam on the Met) and other events.
A big THANK YOU and WELL DONE to all the staff involved from train crews up to managers, and the LTM. Your efforts have not gone unappreciated, and the next time there is a hold up on the network, this commuters annoyance will forever be a little moderated by the experience of the past two weekends.
Chesham412, going to bed happy!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 1:38:19 GMT
Managed to video a couple of the runs this evening (worked out quite well as I was passing through London on my way home from the frozen north. Met No 1 steams through Farringdon Sarah Siddons hauls the return working through Baker Street Kudos to the Scottish announcer at Farringdon, who was getting really into it. Although there were plenty of enthusiasts about, the platforms really weren't that crowded (probably as people had been put off by snow). Shame that LU still felt it necessary to park the S stock in front of the train at Moorgate, I don't think there would've been enough people to cause a problem. At least it was far enough forward that it was possible to get a picture of Sarah at the buffers. Thanks to everyone who made it happen, let's hope for more in future!
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Post by ducatisti on Jan 21, 2013 9:11:17 GMT
I was on the 10.30 run last night. Fantastic! Thanks to all who organised etc. Didn't see many DD-ers about (although I think I saw Alfie at KX a bit earlier)
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Post by metroland on Jan 21, 2013 9:11:39 GMT
I was lucky enough to get a ride in carriage 353 this evening on the 1915 departure. There was a points failure at Edgware Rd so we ended up having an extended trip from Moorgate to Gloucester Road and back! Lucky chap! I was at Farringdon waiting for that working to come back from Edgware Road. The PA kept us informed, and indeed a Scottish chap (won't hold it against him this time) kept us entertained with with his updates and anecdotes - a credit to LUL. I was there later when Met1 was leading a later working and he was on the PA again. Much better than all the 'for your own safety' PA's elsewhere as he was keen we should enjoy the occasion as well as not getting in harm's way. After the delay, a quick turnround at Moorgate and then another quickie at Edgware Road (points sorted by then) got it all back on time. Very much a can-do attitude all round last night. Great.
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Post by DWS on Jan 21, 2013 9:37:49 GMT
I was lucky enough to get a ride in carriage 353 this evening on the 1915 departure. There was a points failure at Edgware Rd so we ended up having an extended trip from Moorgate to Gloucester Road and back! Snow in number 13 points was the cause, I was at Moorgate platform 4 and the train arrived 30mins late, but left only 3mins late, turn round at Edgware Road was done in 2mins and we arrived back at Moorgate on time
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