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Post by antharro on Dec 14, 2013 16:51:47 GMT
For anyone who's planning on turning up late, we've migrated to the Penderel's Oak.
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Post by antharro on Jan 5, 2013 1:03:43 GMT
I've had this happen once at Kennington, changing from a Bank branch train to a Charing Cross train. Saw the Charing Cross train sitting in the platform, doors open, as my Bank train pulled in. I was waiting at the right set of doors for a cross passage, so as soon as my train's doors opened I was across to the CX train. Just as I got onto the platform, the door beeps sounded. I know better than to rush at that point, so I stopped short and shook my head - so close! The T/Op must have been looking at his CCTV because he opened the doors, waited another 5 seconds then closed them again. Bit naughty given the signal was green, but I appreciated it. (Unless he had a door problem and had to open them anyway!) Gave a thumbs up to the CCTV cameras when I got off at Waterloo, hope he saw it!
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Post by antharro on Dec 7, 2012 16:57:08 GMT
That's pretty neat. Are the four digit numbers their equivalent to our headcodes, or train numbers?
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Post by antharro on Dec 5, 2012 15:09:00 GMT
I was raised Christian tho I don't follow any particular religion these days. However, I did know people who would pray for the families of those involved in situations like these even though they didn't know them or didn't have anything to do with them. I was brought up praying for starving people in Ethiopia and wherever else there were troubles.
Whether you agree with people doing this or not (and whether it's prayers or "thoughts") is irrelevant to this thread, the fact is that it happens. So some of the people who are posting as per the OP may well actually mean it. They may also be ghouls as Phil suggested.
Edited to add; I also know people with charleyfarley's view. Personally, I try and empathise a little; we're all human and it doesn't hurt to have some sympathy. But, horses for courses, etc etc.
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Post by antharro on Dec 2, 2012 20:25:42 GMT
I think it's fairly apparent that there were some problems at the time you were travelling. It happens from time to time on any line regardless of how much it's been upgraded. Passenger action, technical difficulties can all cause delays. Lower speed running could be a way of keeping the service regulated instead of having trains bunching up and sitting for ages in tunnels.
If anyone does know then they may decide to post, if it's information that is allowed to be posted in the public domain.
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Post by antharro on Nov 27, 2012 1:46:08 GMT
I'm late to the party as usual. But that's really very good. And catchy as you said! Nice find.
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Post by antharro on Nov 21, 2012 23:37:33 GMT
St. James's Bark (goes for any park, I suppose!) RAVENScourt Park BARKhurst Hill (Shark) FINSbury Park
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Post by antharro on Nov 20, 2012 21:35:52 GMT
Unless I'm missing something, that's not the Daily Mail. It's mail.com which is owned by 1&1 hosting (according to their logo!).
It does amaze me people would turn up without checking first. Surely if you're making a journey to somewhere special, you'd do a bit of research first and find out where it *really* is and how to get there? Or is that just me?!
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Post by antharro on Nov 15, 2012 17:21:08 GMT
There used to be tours of Down Street some of the other disused stations but I believe they stopped a long time ago. Health and Safety concerns, I would imagine. Personally, I would be quite happy to sign a H&S waiver if it meant I could see some of these places!
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Post by antharro on Nov 13, 2012 23:24:59 GMT
Thanks, that appears to answer our question. Does it? (serious question, not being sarcastic!). I would assume that when they were delivered, it was at night, and they were not travelling at full line speed - presumably being hauled? I am assuming they'd need more clearance at higher speeds to allow for tilting on corners, etc, and when they were delivered, they were cleared to run at a slower speed. I could be wrong here, but thought it was worth mentioning!
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Post by antharro on Nov 13, 2012 20:49:38 GMT
How would the 95s fare on the Picc in terms of tunnel clearances?
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Post by antharro on Nov 13, 2012 20:27:57 GMT
Yes and yes!
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Post by antharro on Oct 16, 2012 22:20:19 GMT
@81stock - Are you aware of any similar stickers on slammers? Those are great!
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Post by antharro on Oct 10, 2012 23:21:35 GMT
(Plug: if you like these sort of photos, the full set has more odd workings from today, including SWT on the District line, NR Test Train and a NR RAT (RHTT)!) FYI, there's something odd about that last link, looks like there are some extra characters in it that's breaking it. My browser tries to access http:/// (three /s) instead of the proper link - www.flickr.com/photos/0causton0/sets/72157631740900742.
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Post by antharro on Oct 6, 2012 0:31:30 GMT
How can you plan for something that hasn't been designed yet?
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Post by antharro on Oct 4, 2012 23:42:01 GMT
This is a technical exercise only!
Having just read the news that 5034 is going to the museum, I was wondering. If a single carriage of C stock and a single carriage of D stock were taken to the museum (putting aside the idea of an entire set of each being preserved), would it be possible to specially re-configure / re-rig the air and electric systems to make a working three carriage train?
I very much doubt it would be worth it or that it would be allowed to run in passenger service, but as a technical exercise, I am intrigued.
Also, expanding on this thought, which other stocks have, or could have interoperability? (I realize any stock could with enough modification, but with only minor mods?)
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Post by antharro on Oct 3, 2012 21:28:19 GMT
Congratulations, DStock7080! :-)
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Post by antharro on Oct 3, 2012 8:25:51 GMT
It's too large to put in line here, so take a look at this link and see how many you can spot. i.imgur.com/MQ4Or.jpgAlso, it would be totally unfair for me to post all the ones I've spotted so far, most of my department at work have been looking at this for the last half hour!
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Post by antharro on Sept 28, 2012 19:42:30 GMT
I understand we our frowned upon by elders no matter what we do, but if we were actually challenged at the time, it would have been more understandable. Not once was anyone told to shut up, apart from by members of 'the group'. I can't speak for anyone else, but I wouldn't want to be the spoilsport who tells you (group) to turn the volume down, or calm down, etc, etc. You're all in high spirits, and someone telling you to quieten down a bit can be a real downer - I've experienced it myself and depending on the situation it can be unpleasant. But I understand your point, and the feeling of not being able to win regardless of what you do. I think perhaps a possible "solution" to this whole thing would be if "the group" was a little more self aware. I know it's easy to get caught up in the group and... not quite forget that there are others around, but not consider how "the group's" actions may be coming across or affecting others, regardless of the intention - an unintentional focusing on "the group" to the exclusion of others. Does that make sense? Anyway, I don't want to drag this out. I know "the group" is aware there are people out there who to varying degrees didn't appreciate the group's actions and hopefully that will generate a little understanding. And hopefully the strongest protesters against the group will have a little understanding at the next event!
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Post by antharro on Sept 28, 2012 18:09:48 GMT
Not swaggering in at all, a detailed opinion and account of what really went on. From your viewpoint, yes. Enjoying yourself isn't concerning anyones safety in the slightest, so don't give me that. Loud, boisterous behaviour can be intimidating to others and can make them feel unsafe. Personally I didn't feel unsafe at all for all the time I was on the train or at Harrow, but I see the point 81stock was making. Sitting on a seat chatting, where is that going to make someone feel unsafe? By your earlier post, you weren't doing that. I quote: yes I was one of the loud lot, blonde hair and I feel we were just enjoying ourselves. From what I saw of the "loud lot", and from what you've said there, you weren't sitting just chatting. I don't know what you look like so I don't know if you were one of the loud lot who were actually making a lot of noise, yelling, etc, or if you are just associating yourself with the group, but if you are associating yourself with them then you need to understand that you've just associated yourself with a group who weren't just sitting chatting. You can swear at be behind * all you like, but the behaviour conducted wasn't to that level. If you'll step back for a moment and stop taking what 81stock said as a personal attack, you'll see he has some valid points. He is calling for some consideration of other passengers, while you seem to be firmly in the camp of "no one was doing anything wrong, old people should just shut up and put up with us". I'm not going to write an essay here - the points I wanted to make have been made in another thread - but I will say this. The loud people need to understand and have some courtesy and consideration for people who just want to sit and enjoy the journey quietly. That means not letting yourselves go and yelling and shouting for the whole journey. On the other side of that, the people who want a quiet journey need to understand that there are people who are more exuberant in their enjoyment and celebration and have a little tolerance. If both parties will be considerate of each other, then everyone will get on fine, and threads like this hopefully won't be needed.
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Post by antharro on Sept 27, 2012 22:35:01 GMT
I too have witnessed some pretty appalling behaviour from the older generations - one particular 38ts tour springs to mind, also the last Shoreditch had some less than good behaviour! So it's not just the youths.
I'm also not as old as you probably think I am, and I do agree with r1ncewind!
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Post by antharro on Sept 27, 2012 22:08:21 GMT
I was comparing it to a night club with respects to the fact that it had high levels of noise and sheer numbers of people creating this (ever been in one?). Put your sarcasm away, it's not necessary. None of this has been a personal attack on you. I just don't see why there should be this unwritten rule where people should have to be reserved, just to satisfy some people I don't even know. Maybe you could flip the perspective to 'if you don't want to enjoy yourselves, find another carriage!', the train is formed of 8 of them! Actually, some employment contracts are quite specific about what you can and cannot do when in uniform. I remember a former train op telling me he wasn't allowed in a pub if he was in uniform. Just because you don't know the other people on the train doesn't mean you shouldn't be considerate towards them. No one is saying you have to be "reserved", just don't take it to the other extreme. And as you were talking about rights earlier, they have just as much right to be there as you do, and their behaviour shouldn't impact on you or your group any more than yours should on theirs.
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Post by antharro on Sept 27, 2012 21:54:27 GMT
It's a public service, not a library, so we had the right to be loud if we liked it or not. Technically, yes, you are correct. However, you completely miss the point about being courteous to other passengers on the train. Not everyone wants to celebrate in the same way you do. As for yelling to surrounding people, it's like being in a night club. You have the running noise of the train, and the noise of people talking already, so naturally you talk louder to be heard. You are not in a night club. You are not at a football match. I was able to hold a conversation with a couple of other passengers at quite a normal volume in between the yelling. Look, no one's telling you you can't get excited, no one's saying you shouldn't be enthusiastic. Just please have a thought and some consideration for the other passengers around you. That's all.
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Post by antharro on Sept 27, 2012 21:30:49 GMT
To be fair to people, they were not climbing on equipment, they were climbing on a wall. Not a big deal anywhere else, so why on the railway. It's a special occasion and a blind eye can be turned to things like this. Because if someone had fallen off the wall and cracked their head open, they could end up taking TfL to court on the basis there was no "do not climb the walls" notice. I'd like to think they'd lose, but if they didn't (and even if they did), I can see TfL could use it as a valid excuse for either curtailing or stopping enthusiast runs like this. Turning a blind eye isn't something that just can be done like that any more. Actions have consequences, and as MetControl has already pointed out, Saturday's run will still go ahead, but with more than likely a firmer hand when it comes to people being stupid.Nobody in the front carriage was 'over enthusiastic', they were having fun. It's a thing young people do - have fun. If you're saying that when you were their age, you didn't have fun, then I'm afraid you were probably a bit boring! The problem with the kind of "fun" going on in the first carriage is that it completely stamps all over the wishes of those who wanted to have a less rowdy journey. Just because a group of people decide they're going to be loud, that doesn't make it acceptable. Personally, I did think the three cheers and the cheering over rough track was amusing and I joined in with some of it. But the yelling down the train to other people in the same group got very tiresome after a while, and while the yelling of "Pacers", "disgusting" and other derogatory terms every time an S-stock came past was amusing to start with, again, it got tedious very quickly. There is no need to yell when the people you're talking to are standing less than a meter away from you in the same group. I thought it was sad that a group of people I was sitting with decided they would sit in the next carriage down for the return journey from Watford as they could not tolerate the noise any further. This is a delicate balancing act; the loud people needed to tone it down for the benefit of other passengers - this did not happen at any time that I was on the train, and the passengers who want it quieter need to have some tolerance, which I feel they did - not one word was issued in anger towards the loud group. In the heat of the moment it is easy to think you're not doing anything untoward, and all's well that ends well, etc, but the fact that TfL management are having to consider measures to control the antics on platforms tells me that they also consider some of the behaviour to have crossed a line. I understand and share in the enthusiasm towards the A-stock, and as I said in my earlier post, the atmosphere in that first carriage was great. But I do feel, very strongly, that the people in the loud groups need to tone it down a little and have some consideration for other people on the train. Edited to add: In my eyes, singing and shouting on this occasion is acceptable, much like it is around a football fixture. We are youths and this is how we act. That is absolutely not an excuse. First carriage of a train is not the same as a football fixture. Just because you (not you personally, "you" generally) are youths does not give you an excuse to assume that everyone else in the carriage wants to "celebrate" in the same way you do. You need to have a thought for other people in the carriage and not use loud and dominant behaviour to ensure you have your way. While other people in the carriage may not challenge you on it, that doesn't mean they're not gritting their teeth against it and exercising some tolerance. Your behaviour could well be spoiling someone else's journey and you wouldn't even know because it would be pointless to challenge you about it. That's not a justification.
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Post by antharro on Sept 27, 2012 16:07:07 GMT
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Post by antharro on Sept 3, 2012 15:22:17 GMT
Booked my ticket; second carriage somewhere. Out of curiosity, are we expected to sit in the specific carriage we chose, or were they making people choose a seat as a means of managing ticket sales?
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Post by antharro on Jul 10, 2012 22:41:44 GMT
Turn off the Skype plugin in your browser. In Firefox you just hit the Skype button on the toolbar.
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Post by antharro on Jun 30, 2012 1:56:11 GMT
I had a very interesting conversation with a Met driver the other day. He told me that with the S stock coming in, we could expect all the As and Cs to be gone by this year, early next year at the latest, and the Ds to be gone by the end of next year...
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Post by antharro on Jun 21, 2012 19:54:27 GMT
Well, no fasts from Aldgate at the time I was there. On an all stations Uxbridge service. 5100 + 5189, with 5100 leading. Just leaving Wembley Park now. Have also seen 5119 + 5025 at Baker Street on an all stations service to Watford, and an unknown unit at speed heading to Baker Street with an S also at speed right behind it on adjacent tracks.
5100 is bouncing along at its top (legal) speed, motors sounding fantastic.
It's easy to understand why they're being replaced tho. We left Finchley Road a second before a 96. Before we had barely got moving, the 96 was gone. We caught up at the next station where it had obviously been there for a few seconds, doors open. If more capacity is needed then faster accelerating trains are needed. I understand, I don't want to see the A's go. Too much character!
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Post by antharro on Jun 20, 2012 18:24:49 GMT
Given the end would appear to be rapidly approaching, I thought it would be nice to get a fast A-stock from one end of the line to the other.
Is there still such a thing as a fast from Aldgate to one of the ends of the line, and what would be my chances of getting one if I headed out tomorrow evening, around 6-7pm?
Would be nice if it was fast going the other way too!
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