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Post by Phil on Oct 10, 2015 9:24:20 GMT
A lot of New York Subway cars had a driving cab at each end. You could even take one car off and drive it independantly to a different location. ...............and as I did once on the WSR all the way from Minehead to Dunster. I was in the (rear) cab (of a 3-car Class 117 set minus the 'front' power car) driving, and the WSR Ops superintendent peering out of the open corridor gangway of the (then leading) trailer car. Not in service obviously but still meant going over two road crossings........ Unfortunately I can't remember the reason but it was great fun while it lasted and totally safe....... (cries of 'oh-yeah??' all round!!)But back on topic, as I understand it, the definiton of multiple unit is simply the control of more than one power unit/car from one (ANY one) driving position.
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Post by Phil on Oct 24, 2013 12:58:30 GMT
Chris was a good friend and a faithful staff member. He will be missed.
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Post by Phil on Sept 18, 2013 10:38:17 GMT
It's basically an indoor cliff railway. Faultless description (but horribly self-contradictory !) !
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Post by Phil on Sept 18, 2013 6:11:56 GMT
Thanks for those links/youtubes. I've never seen one for 'real' and seeing it makes everything make sense .
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Post by Phil on Aug 19, 2013 7:27:09 GMT
OP now updates with current situation.
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Post by Phil on Jul 22, 2013 9:49:20 GMT
If you're talking about the jaunt up to the east end of the Central Line that you and I were both on, then that was more than a couple of years ago now. I'm fairy certain it was 2008 Well, wherever have all those years gone then??
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Post by Phil on Jul 21, 2013 7:27:47 GMT
Yes, we visited it on one of our forum trips a couple of years ago (not intentionally as it happened).
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Post by Phil on Jun 26, 2013 9:02:44 GMT
Me and the two friends use Futureguy profile agree that the forum has changed over the years in terms of the running and understand the importants of members but we and other members agree that change is a matter of life, you can escape it. We think that other sections needs to be added to the forum. Tramlink, NR, Bus' s etc We ask if other members who feel there should be further changes should feel free to post on this thread. #RecognizedOfDistrictDave ADMIN WARNING You are stepping on dangerous ground here my friend! On this forum, members are welcome to suggest things, just as you have, but this forum has NEVER been a democracy. Dave didn't want it that way and so it continues. If suggestions meet with staff approval and are agreed on (quite often the case) the change is made, but if not there are never any polls, votes etc.. If that's what you want there are several other transport forums who do precisely that. But if you don't like the way things are run here you are free to leave at any time.
And on the issue itself, other members have made it clear they totally agree with the current position on Tramlink - but they often don't post, they just send an admin a PM instead, so you won't see it.
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Post by Phil on Jun 25, 2013 8:03:00 GMT
No need for a poll. Dave himself laid down the rule (the rest of the admins concurring) that Tramlink runs on roads so the vehicles are road vehicles not trains. Hence, as already said by the mods "a line has to be drawn somewhere", and this is it!!! There are several other forums dealing with TfL matters as a whole - Dave even needed persuading that LO should be in: the 'swing' factor was that we had already agreed on DLR's inclusion, so the rest of TfL sort of followed as an inevitability.
And that's how it will stay FTFF
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Post by Phil on Jun 4, 2013 10:29:18 GMT
It's generally thought best to either not mention elements of the plot that reveal significant things that the reader is not expected to know until s/he gets to a certain point or to warn the reader that these are coming. There are obvious things such as revealing the culprit in a murder mystery but more subtle ones such as saying 'after he remarried' when the subject is happily married for the first half of the book. When these things are revealed in a review (or discussion) they are called 'spoilers' because they can spoil the enjoyment of the book. (You clearly don't watch Doctor Who.) Many sites (particularly those discussing books or films) have a tag so that text can be hidden unless the reader takes some action to see it. ETA: I don't think anything you wrote could really be described as a spoiler. Elements such as flooding a tunnel do not need to be kept secret unless the author expects it to be a shock to the reader And it's hardly surprising that there may be a twist as the end. Thanks for that help - it seems I got most of it about right after all! And the flooding of the tunnel - seeing it's the biggest thing visible on the dustjacket of the hardback you can hardly miss the idea that it might be part of the plot......
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Post by Phil on Jun 4, 2013 10:24:33 GMT
Please can the Mods clarify something for me? If II post anything related to graffiti on the Underground on District Dave I have broke the rules as I am seen to be effectively promoting graffitti. I write a book on a terrorist attack on the Underground and give some detail of the scenario on this Forum and that is OK! Both of the above have occurred and could unfortunately occur again so why is there this inconsistency within the District Dave forum rules? Nigel Simple - Graffiti is real and criminal and anti-social. The book is a work of FICTION, and once you have read it you'll realize that despite its 'authenticity', in the real world it's just that - FICTION! It could never actually happen due to the efficiency of our security services (and that's not just jingoism - I know more about bits of it than many, and nearly 90% of actual genuine terrorist threats and their disposal never reach any area of the press). That's what makes it such a good read! Max and I have exchanged a fair few PMs, and I put it to him that "wouldn't xxxxxx have had yyyyyyy and the whole attack would have been thwarted before it started?" (see, no 'spoilers', my new word for the day ) and he said "actually, yes!!".
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Post by Phil on Jun 4, 2013 5:19:48 GMT
Perhaps you should have mentioned the spoilers in the thread title. That was more like a plot summary than a review. Sorry, I have no idea what you mean. I'm a scientist not a literary person and haven't a clue as to the difference between a plot summary and a review. And what are 'spoilers'? When I was at school we were taught that a book review should contain the title, a summary of the plot, then analysis and personal impressions. So that's what I did. Sorry if English teachers teach something different these days.
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Post by Phil on Jun 4, 2013 5:11:30 GMT
There is no need for a policy review, this being the third book to be reviewed, the others not even being written by members.
And we would have allowed any member to write that review.
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Post by Phil on Jun 3, 2013 14:41:36 GMT
Max Kinnings, one of our members, sought lots of help from our members in trying to get the Underground aspect of his latest book (about a year old) totally accurate: thanks to all who answered his questions, because he seems to have succeeded! I have now read it and can heartily recommend it - and here's why (a review). The basic plot is a Northern line train held stationary in a tunnel by pseudo-Christian terrorists. So if not interested, look away now!! Pseudo 'Lamb of God' Tommy wants to sacrifice a trainload of passengers to right the world's wrongs and make himself the Messiah by dying himself. To do this he first 'befriends' a T/op on a transport chatroom then grooms him by PMs etc. to reveal his personal details. He now, with his accomplices, one of whom is his sister, kidnaps the T/op's family while he is leaving for work, and under that threat to coerce him into agreeing to the plans to stop the train in a 'hollow' (dip) in the line between Leicester Square and Tottenham Court Road. He demands internet access at deep level, which the security services initially refuse, to let him broadcast himself to the world.In order to achieve his aims he blows up the casing of an old culverted river in his pre-chosen place, gradually flooding the tunnel over a period of hours so that all will eventually drown - attempted escapees are ruthlessly gunned down by machine fire by him and his sister (the third member dying by many people's "sex and death" fantasy. To say much more would spoil it, and although a lot turns out OK in the end, there is an unexpected and sinister final twist. This book is a good read and keeps you interested all the time. The origins and backgrounds of the characters fit in well with the plot. There are one or two intermediate twists which genuinely catch the reader out, and one or two acts which are a very sad reminder of the condemnatory non-forgiving blame culture in which we now live. All the characters, main and subsidiary, are totally believable, from the blinded (in 'gov't service') hostage negotiator to the 'No2' in the appropriate "government department" who will do anything, including killing, to cover up departmental deficiencies and advance his own promotion. Also believable is the interaction between Tommy and the T/op George, ranging at times between Stockholm Syndrome at its extreme to the complete opposite as the hours pass. Oh, and don't mention (two years ago.....) the acquisition and use of IRA Semtex, stored in the capital, to aid the rescue of the survivors before it's too late!!! And just when you think it's all safe and sorted it turn out it isn't by a long way. I really enjoyed reading it - and considering my usual fare is books well over 50 years old and totally different genres, that's really saying something!! Reading time is about 8-9 hours for the average reader, and, as said above, there are no visible (IMO) LU inaccuracies. Well done all for that help. It's a thick book but is well laid out and is largish print for the hard-of-hearing . I recommend it as a good holiday read. The trailer for the film on Youtube is another story though...... You can read further here: www.maxkinnings.com/
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Post by Phil on May 15, 2013 9:09:14 GMT
With v4, if you were creating a post then accidentally navigated away from the page (as we all do at times....) if you hit the 'back' button on your browser you'd get the recreated part-post as you left it. As we have all found to our cost, with v5 if you leave the page while composing, or computer crashes etc., it's gone: 'back' just takes you to a fresh 'reply' pane.
This solution ain't been advertised widely and I found it by accident:
Go into your 'profile'. Find 'edit profile' then open 'settings', 4th from left on blue(-texted) bar.
Top section is 'forum preferences'. 4th down is 'save drafts'. Change to 'yes', don't forget to 'save changes', exit and you're done.
Now, every time you leave a partially composed message, it acts like Hotmail/Outlook, and whatever happens in terms of page closing, browser crashing, negligence etc., the first thing you get when you come back is a popup box telling you you have a draft and if so do you want to restore it? A 'yes' here puts you back onto the original compose screen in the correct place on the correct board.
Far better than v4. For once a genuine thanks to proboards for a real improvement - - once you know about it!
BTW, this thread will be migrated to the 'how to do' board once everyone's had a chance to read it, but it's far too important to start it off hidden well away.
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Post by Phil on Mar 29, 2013 6:30:42 GMT
Yup - we've had that one before, but so long ago it won't matter if we give it another airing.
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Post by Phil on Mar 23, 2013 11:24:40 GMT
Was on the District line today, on the train I got on, the announcements were saying "this is a District line train to Olympia", but at the station the boards were saying "Earl's Court" so I don't know if it actually went to Olympia. Thursday? My son was at Olympia NR most of the day photographing some obscure stuff he needed. All day there were random D stocks coming in (8min, then 20min, then 14min, then 7min then 30min etc.) all the time he was there - they were all departing with Upminster or Barking destinations (the ones he saw anyway). Perhaps one of our District t/ops can tell us what sort of disruption caused KO to be used so much on Thursday - signalling on one of the branches? And yes, all the boards were saying 'no services to Olympia today'!
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Post by Phil on Mar 20, 2013 18:43:27 GMT
What is the point of this?? Wow castlebar! I had (mistakenly?) taken you as some sort of royalist.......... My apologies. I was obviously wrong!!!
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Post by Phil on Mar 20, 2013 9:27:14 GMT
If you use the (dreaded) 'search facility' - marginally better in v5 - you'll find at least FOUR separate threads on Wimbleware, and at least THREE different threads on line colours. They come round randomly about every 18 months or so.......
And if you want one of them resurrected, just PM your local mod and ask him/her to unlock the relevant thread so you can add to it.
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Post by Phil on Mar 14, 2013 11:30:23 GMT
Perhaps Embankment/Charing Cross? Or Embankment/Charing Cross/Trafalgar Square/Strand/Aldwych... Quite a few stations had different names proposed before they opened too. The problem with that lot is that not only did the stations change names, the names changed stations IYSWIM .
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Post by Phil on Mar 10, 2013 10:14:33 GMT
What a puzzle! I'm not sure it's standard stock (compressors) at all.
My gut feeling is that, as per always, the producers weren't all that fussy which train type they used - after all "they're only tubes aren't they?" In which case (being of an age to remember them, and having used the Picc every day in the mid-to-late 50s and on from that) my conclusion is that the compressors are from surface stock, probably not R, but more likely O,P or (most likely) Q stock.
To me,that's the only one that makes sense of my, by now somewhat old, sound memories of LT.
I hope that reganorak or tubeprune will be along in a while to confirm or deny.
EDIT - should have said that it definitely ain't 38ts, 59ts (or anything later!), and the reason I don't think it's standard stock is that the compressors on those had a far sharper 'reciprocating' noise, and a slower 'beat' unlike what we were hearing on the clip, these sounding almost more 'rotary' in the smoothness of their noise.
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Post by Phil on Mar 1, 2013 13:01:23 GMT
Phil: Yeah, I've been commenting in that thread ;-) Yup - saw that. The 'you' in my last post was meant to be generic .
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Post by Phil on Feb 28, 2013 16:05:58 GMT
I've tried this, and it seems to be far quicker than awaiting the Bakerloo at Marylebone... Yesterday and today there were a few people on the platform, and I seem to remember letting the first train go away this morning, deciding not to play sardines on it. If you pop over to the bakerloo board and this thread: www.districtdavesforum.co.uk/thread/21243/todays-problem-bakerlooyou'll see the reasons for the problems on it. SIX trains cancelled every day, so crowded trains and no hope of a solution for Queen's Park - unless TfL admit they've made a severe error over safety......
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Post by Phil on Feb 28, 2013 9:24:34 GMT
As for the 20 plus, you are doing everything humanly possible to avoid seeing the obvious!! I am counterposing the 20 plus over 5-6 weeks WITH the 3 over 22 years to show you that Joe Public can see that there is a DIFFERENCE between this dispute and others, namely that they are in a safer position because of it!! Not wanting to get in to an argument, but you are saying that the industrial action is a good thing because 20 people have said so.. and what about the other 248+ people that are regularly on the Bakerloo Line (and this is just the seated people according to Wikipedia!) who may not think this is a good thing because their service is being delayed? Strangely enough, as I'm sure you're aware, not everyone using a tube train gets on at the starting point and off at the terminus point - so they don't have the chance to speak to you the driver! I think we are beginning to go round in circles on this one now. It's obvious that those at Queen's Park see the problem and some/many/most sympathise and support the t/op - after all they are ALL affected by lack of platform staff.
Equally those who only use the southern end of the line couldn't care less what happens up north and are totally pigged off with delays and cancellation. That's humanity for you.
We've allowed a long run on this one, but, unless someone has something new to add, I think we're through. I'll leave it open for now, but if circular arguments keep appearing one of the mods will pop along to lock it.
Thanks all.
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Post by Phil on Feb 25, 2013 11:10:15 GMT
Many drivers 'switch off' after a while and don't know where they are. Once I remember the controller calling me on the radio and asking where I was. Unfortunately, I didn't have the foggiest and didn't answer until I'd stopped at the next station. I couldn't remember if I was going east or west, or where I was on the railway. We have other members who will testify to this - especially when your second half was FOUR circles......... It can happen on the buses too. One Saturday evening I was in Gloucester bus station (I was a Stroud driver and two routes go to Gloucester) and, end of a long day, doors open waiting for passengers, I completely blanked out. Didn't know what route I was on, what departure time (thank goodness for running cards), and being dark, not only what time it was, but not even what day or even the date/time of year. Quite scary!!! Good look at running card told me the day, watch told me the actual time, card told me departure time and an old paper told me the date. Lasted till I pulled out of the bus station then suddenly reality got restored and I was back! Fortunately never happened again. Many of the industry experts cite this as the main cause of Moorgate - the driver simply forgot where he was and in those days if you 'came round' too late to stop you just missed out that station, got a 'word in your ear' from your guard on the loudaphone and carried on. Boredom is indeed a serious issue which is why the technical tests for t/ops now usually include SCAAT or group-bourdon tests to specifically test concentration.
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Post by Phil on Feb 22, 2013 9:05:37 GMT
My two pence, the Metropolitan (and SSR in general) would be served better in the big picture by getting rid of ex-city services in the peak... But that's perhaps something for the RIPAS board... Your stockbrokers from Bucks already moan about the service pattern, the seating on the S stock, the....... - - - - and so on ad infinitum, so to insist they would ALL now have to change trains to get home wouldn't go down a bundle in the City!!!
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Post by Phil on Feb 15, 2013 7:28:53 GMT
I'm sure I've seen references to "door engines" on Underground trains. You have - but until very recently these were all AIR engines (i.e. pneumatic)... .
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Post by Phil on Feb 4, 2013 9:00:36 GMT
Yes, right back into the dim-distant, LU used to release two maps -the familiar pocketsize LU only map, and big "London Connections" map. The .pdf link above is merely the current interpretation of 'london connections'.
As said, the NR lines should either all be there or none of them. With things as they are (and were) users have a choice as to which suits their needs better..........though I'd be the first to admit the full map is not advertised the way it should be.
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Post by Phil on Jan 30, 2013 10:46:05 GMT
saying it was done 'for safety reasons' Anyone know what the exact issue was? As already hinted at, this is the standard announcement for passing a (failed) signal at danger. The t/op has to go through a twenty-stage procedure (as per his rule book) - and yes, he is examined on his memory of all tewnty stages in the correct order since it's safety critical!! The announcement is part of that procedure. And once done the speed is electronically limited for a set time (depending on stock I believe) even if/when he's seen that the next signal is clear. After that - yup, (unofficially) 'floor it' to make up for the delay..... .
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Post by Phil on Jan 28, 2013 19:42:09 GMT
I view all the above, but note that the Cons, the LibDems AND the Labour party have all publicly stated their total support for the scheme - today......
Give it five years, a change of Gov't (perhaps/really?) and more economic woes, who knows??
But, as the Beeb told us, with all that lot (and the business lobby) in support, the 'anti-lobby' might as well give up and go home until/unless conditions change.
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