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Post by miff on Jun 22, 2012 21:31:31 GMT
I liked the red livery they previously had. It somehow looked authentic even though it wasn't. The current 'ronseal' effect looks fake.
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Post by miff on May 2, 2012 22:03:53 GMT
On a boat. Believe it or not LUL exported these 1959 units in exchange for the Alderney Railway's previous (1938) stock which was then stripped for spares.
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Post by miff on Jan 27, 2012 0:15:16 GMT
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Post by miff on Jan 22, 2012 13:25:53 GMT
Is it available in electronic format for download? Sample articles, and membership details, are on line at: lurs.org.uk/
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Post by miff on Dec 7, 2011 9:51:26 GMT
Dean - thanks for this fascinating information, I hope CHT will get out on the line again (perhaps with the '62 stock train too) someday somehow. I'm unllikely to see Fred, I only knew him when I was for a few years one of the dwindling number of his regular customers, but I wish him well!
Marquis - thanks for that alternative electrification diagram. Fascinating.
And I'm glad somebody else has confirmed the fire, wondered if I'd dreamed it!
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Post by miff on Dec 6, 2011 23:05:19 GMT
Is the "Fred" story really true? I believe so. I remember Fred (and his surname!) from that period. I have also heard (perhaps a drver will confirm?) departures from the loop at North Weald were staggered to avoid overloading the power supply by departing simultaneously. And does anyone else remember the slow underground fire deep inside the Ongar embankment just outside the station? Smoke drifted over the area for many months and required fairly substantial works to seal off the air supply and smother it.
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Post by miff on Dec 6, 2011 0:21:22 GMT
I don't believe 1962 stock needed to be modified to work on the Ongar branch. Most central line trains consisted of two '62-stock 4-car units coupled together. However the Ongar service used single 4-car units. Until 1976 two 4-car trains were used during the peaks, passing at North Weald. I think the platforms were too short for 8-car trains.
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Post by miff on Dec 2, 2011 21:30:06 GMT
Here is a video of the IOW cars passing through St. James's Park and being shunted at Acton in 1991:
Did BR donate these to LUL or did they buy this train? It would be interesting to know what the preservation plan was at that time (no criticism implied - I'm old enough to understand sometimes things just don't work out as planned).
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Post by miff on Nov 27, 2011 23:38:09 GMT
This is a length of track which hasn't seen a train since 1917 but in the far distance on the photo you can see a short length of fourth rail still in position on the far side. The angle of the photo somehow makes it appear as if there is not enough room for a far-side fourth rail near the photographer, but there is.
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Post by miff on Nov 27, 2011 21:44:12 GMT
Train doors were not opened, and the interior lights were not on since the power was not on.
Since the railway remains in working order is it conceivable that it could ever carry passengers again on an open day like this? It would be great to include a trip to the Holborn platform(s) and back in the tour.
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Post by miff on Nov 27, 2011 10:16:36 GMT
Look foward to seeing it when I go. I read a very negative view of the tour on the Internet with health and safety being the main theme of the tour. I hope this is not the case! It isn't! I went yesterday and, as you would expect in any place which is normally off-limits to the public, there was a short h&s briefing at the start of the tour. After that the focus was entirely on explaining the history and and showing us the more interesting features of the station. When we left we were all handed an excellent little booklet about the history of the station. Thanks to LUL and LTM staff & volunteers for making this possible.
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Post by miff on Nov 9, 2011 23:09:29 GMT
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Post by miff on Nov 9, 2011 23:03:10 GMT
The Victorians referred a lot to London and environs - what might otherwise be referred to as Greater London - as the Metropolis In some quarters this is still in use - the formal title of the Met's senior Police officer is Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis.
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Post by miff on Nov 6, 2011 17:25:17 GMT
Steam locos did transfer trips (I don't think passengers were carried) via SSR tunnels during the Steam on the Met events a few years ago.
Odd that there is no mention (other than the typo confusing it with Met no.1) of Sarah Siddons - the last operational item of Metropolitan Railway rolling stock still in LUL ownership.
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Post by miff on Nov 1, 2011 17:06:33 GMT
Thanks for the heads-up, got my booking for noon on 26th!
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Post by miff on Sept 25, 2011 16:24:54 GMT
Door to what was once (IIRC) labelled a 'Motormen's Mess Room' on the former Ongar platform at Epping Station. And according to Wikipedia "Loughton to Epping became part of the London Underground Central Line on 25 September 1949, leaving the single track line from Epping to Ongar as the last steam-worked section."
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Post by miff on Sept 14, 2011 17:57:20 GMT
Went past Low Hall Pump-house today. 3016 is still partially there, half scrapped. Another 1967-stock (I think, couldn't see the number) DM has arrived in the yard, in corporate livery but a lot of graffiti on one side.
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Post by miff on Sept 13, 2011 20:55:50 GMT
Stratford City is in Newham, not Tower Hamlets. E20 postcode. Is that relevant?
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Post by miff on Jul 1, 2011 17:05:52 GMT
Flash Bristow's account (and pictures) of a 2001 visit to Angel and City Road is here
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Post by miff on Jun 10, 2011 23:08:07 GMT
As an only occasional contributor here I'm afraid I didn't. I must pay more attention!
Nevertheless as someone who only remembers Ongar station as a single tracked '62 stock terminus I found the linked thread fascinating!
Even in my time as a regular passenger I remember Fred's scorpions, and the underground fire in the embankment (smoke drifting over the station for months). Another geezer who worked on the line tried to preserve the Ongar signal box by boarding over the smashed windows and giving it a lick of paint. However LUL demolished it, and the goods shed, a few vears later.
For a short time I went from Ongar to Blake Hall and back every Sunday, the staff there were friendly but surprised to see anyone getting on or off the train. A nice (coal?) fire burned in the waiting room, an original GER bench was still on the platform and the person who lived in the station house had built a minature steam railway in the garden.
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Post by miff on Jun 6, 2011 14:57:26 GMT
At present very few S stock trains have entered service, therefore most Londoners will not yet have experienced them.
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Post by miff on Jun 6, 2011 11:40:01 GMT
what on earth is Goblin, I've seen it used here often but have no idea what it is which proves somewhat that names are unimportant! I agree the names don't matter much (why not re-name them all after District Dave contributers?, or X-factor finalists), but Goblin is one of the few that actually makes good geographical sense G(ospel)O(ak)toB(arking)LIN(e). (But I usually call it the BOG line, for no good reason I can remember!)
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Post by miff on May 30, 2011 13:30:15 GMT
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Post by miff on May 29, 2011 20:02:05 GMT
Wide though it is, the Stratford platform doesn't serve the Underground.
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Post by miff on May 5, 2011 22:40:42 GMT
North London Line trains ran through the enclosed part. And the DLR extension will soon.
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Post by miff on Apr 27, 2011 22:20:25 GMT
Would capping work with a contactless payment system?
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Post by miff on Apr 12, 2011 22:47:50 GMT
The article also says "Stratford station will also be revamped". Was there ever a time when Stratford Station wasn't being re-vamped?
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Post by miff on Mar 23, 2011 23:52:00 GMT
Until 1994 the W&C was owned by British Rail therefore the new units received BR numbers and classification. I don't suppose LUL uses the class 482 designation but I'm open to correction on this point.
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Post by miff on Jan 11, 2011 22:45:41 GMT
I find it odd that they are willing to let 5 2009 stock trains stay out of service each day, whilst running oretty much every remaining 1967 stock! Thought they would be as keen as possible to run as many 2009 stocks as they can each day. Why rush? It might also make sense to introduce new stock and new systems (both for operation & maintenance) gradually and carefully. It might also make sense to make full use of the remaining '67-stock trains for as long as they remain available. They will soon be gone in any event.
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Post by miff on Aug 28, 2010 15:02:10 GMT
No point in rushing towards a maiden voyage - trying to show off how quick new services can be pressed into action was the Titanic's downfall. Terminal 5 too - an excellent example of something which should have been ramped up to full capacity over several weeks or months rather than expecting everything to work perfectly on day one.
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