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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 27, 2014 2:52:17 GMT
True...
If I remember correctly, was there not a case on a tram on the south coast somewhere where the driver had an "incident" medically speaking and either derailed or crashed because they had rendered the handle InOp?
How do the handles on the modern stock work? Is it a pressure pad system or a weighted handle?
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 27, 2014 2:25:38 GMT
Even if the driver has been incapacitated in such a way that the deadman's handle is rendered useless?
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 27, 2014 2:24:02 GMT
Thats what I was meaning - as there was Sunday running during the Olympics wasn't there? Just curious to know if there was a special procedure for running on a Sunday on the W&C or, as you say, do a special on the Central
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 26, 2014 23:20:22 GMT
I realise that the Drain does not normally run on a Sunday, but I was wondering how such a service is provided. Is there a special WTT provided for Sunday running and how are drivers allocated to run the service, although I presume there is some kind of rota based system should Sunday running take place?
I've often wondered about it ever since I learnt there was no Sunday service normally, so I hope you can satisfy my curiosity
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 26, 2014 20:40:01 GMT
I was going out to Heathrow Airport earlier and when I on the pic, I saw some interesting stuff/sightings. For example, I saw some maintenance rain (I think) at the Ealing Test track and I was wondering what it was doing? "Maintenance rain"? Does LU's repair team now work with Mother Nature?
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 26, 2014 10:21:07 GMT
I know of no location, on topic or otherwise, that goes by that name, so no. Hi! Barnet, silly! That is damnedly clever... I didn't understand it until your next post!
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 26, 2014 1:25:32 GMT
Heathrow Terminals 1,2,3 Eastbound
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 26, 2014 1:23:02 GMT
Main - Shoreditch (pre Closure)
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 26, 2014 0:41:33 GMT
I'm sorry to say I laughed when he was stopped by the stairs - I know its wrong but even so...
I'd like to see somebody race a train from Terminal 5 to Cockfosters - that ought to be a good challenge!
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 25, 2014 22:52:26 GMT
On a Saturday, the 0531 from Liverpool Street runs via the Tottenham Hale line and via South Tottenham, up the curve and continues all stations via Seven Sisters to Enfield Town. This movement only happens once. I've not done, just know about it No return service?
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 25, 2014 19:46:18 GMT
After all my adventuring I only got one D Stock train which was at High Street Kensington after the 20 38 Kensington (Olympia) service. D Stock - 7059 by N7242C, on Flickr Edit: changed link to picture by request of Indefatigable.
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 25, 2014 18:40:32 GMT
[ Why not allow a D stock to go off-piste as it were then ?? As I understand, D stock currently isn't permitted anywhere other than the District Line. A plan is being formed however...! Some D stock services use the Picc fast lines do they not? Technically thats off the District lines!
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 25, 2014 18:34:41 GMT
So I made a little little mistake? - whoops Anyway... Was there an issue that made them swap a D stock for a S stock for that run? For the record: Train 011D was 7045-17045-8045-8088-17088-7088 Train 042 was 7188-17118-8118-7508-17058-7509 (Incidentally, this 2nd evening Olympia train went HSK to EC as a Richmond train on orders from the controllers - then went to Olympia anyway!) Jolly good runs on both of them - especially the 011 crew as they could not believe I had come all the way from Yorkshire just to ride the evening services.
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 25, 2014 18:33:53 GMT
Actually, I understand that City Hall is still used to reverse services and stable trains overnight
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 25, 2014 16:40:06 GMT
Little something related to this thread...
Went to London yesterday and wanted to go to Aldgate but got a District and ended up at Aldgate East. After a quick change to the other platform I was waiting when an S stock came trundling in at 1451 with the front, side and interior boards plus the station's own announcement confirming this was a service to Olympia. "Well..." says I "I think I shall partake in this" so in I jump for a jolly run to Olympia. But when we get to Earl's Court, the driver came on and said he was not going to Olympia after all. "Bother" says I and gets off and watches it pull away.
When I got home to Hull around 0343 this morning, my first thing was to make a cup of tea and check the WTT that tut kindly linked in his first reply. However, there was nothing going Olympia way at that time from Aldgate East - but there was one to Richmond (Train 12D - not formed of D stock as suggested by the timetable). Would this have been an incorrect setting on the train? And, if so, would this have affected the platform displays also?
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 25, 2014 15:19:56 GMT
I'm not... I was merely under the assumption that the card was for London Underground/Overground/Mainline - Was not aware it could be used for buses as well. This is exactly the sort of useful information the group can give a new person like myself I don't think the mod comment was aimed at you.... Using a travelcard on a bus, you are supposed to show it to the driver on boarding - he should log it on his machine (you will see the word "pass" come up on the screen). On multientry buses (507, 521, bendybuses when they ran, and now also on Boris's mobile saunas (sorry, iconic design statements), you can board by any door and don't need to show it unless asked (helps to have it to hand though). Ah, so another useful bit of information... I shall attempt to try this in the future
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 25, 2014 14:17:49 GMT
Lets's not get into a discussion about the Wrights and wrongs of the NB4L project please folks (see what I did there?). I'm not... I was merely under the assumption that the card was for London Underground/Overground/Mainline - Was not aware it could be used for buses as well. This is exactly the sort of useful information the group can give a new person like myself
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 25, 2014 3:09:08 GMT
Also a write up in the Evening Standard yesterday - I know as I got a copy
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 25, 2014 3:04:18 GMT
No, none at all. You just show your travelcard or use it in the ticket barriers as if you were on the Underground. To use it on a bus, just show it to the driver as you board. I did not have any idea a LU issued travel card worked on buses - b*gger... I could have bagged a few Borismasters while I was at it
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 24, 2014 3:39:50 GMT
Thats VERY useful, thank you very much What is the procedure then? Show the Travelcard to a guard or any TOC official? If asked, yes. Or a bus driver. Ticket gates have a slot in the side facing you (next to the green arrow - it will emerge out the top, beyond the Oyster reader - the gate will open when you take the ticket (this is to make sure you don't forget to take it!). Zone 1-6 covers ALL Underground and London Overground services except beyond Moor Park and Headstone Lane, all DLR, all trams, all red buses (whether within or without the GLA - all the way to Dorking, Reigate, Slough etc), all National Rail services within Gtreater London, and a few just outside, with the exceptions of St Pancras to Stratford (HS1) and Heathrow 123 to Hayes & Harlington (both on Heathrow Connect and the non-stop service to Paddington) I *am* familiar with how it works, I was just asking of there was a separate procedure for using the travel card on NR services
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 23, 2014 19:14:46 GMT
Thats VERY useful, thank you very much What is the procedure then? Show the Travelcard to a guard or any TOC official? Slightly off topic, but if anybody sees a guy with a straw hat on at Olympia tomorrow around 2000 that will be me! Give us a tap on the shoulder... Happy to chat
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 23, 2014 15:49:34 GMT
I like that! Well I shall certainly put this information to the test tomorrow as I am booked to go to London to have a day out and to get those Olympia trains! Just have to try and be more assertive in my 1-6 demand. I presume that Off Peak would be including my arrival time to St Pancras of 11:14? As this is a ticket question thread... Can I use the Zone 1-6 card to do Whitechapel to Canada Water via LO for example?
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 23, 2014 3:04:55 GMT
I reckon we're looking at Watford North Junction from a train heading over Watford North Curve. I concur with Mr tut's statement and wish to register my vote for the same
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 22, 2014 22:45:12 GMT
I shall also come out the closet and say I read the Rodong Sinmun and the The Pyongyang Times... So you are not alone in odd reading choices.
That being said, speaking as someone not in London I think it should continue to get public funding and still get commercial funding in a limited way
If they want to increase the amount of money, why not run some trips out of Charing X and back via a raffle and put the money into the kitty? £50,000 a ticket from a business or rich person on a 1996 stock makes £93,800,000 - monetary shortfall problem solved!
From a point of over crowding, the station I fear when trying to get on or off is Oxford Circus, but there is not much they can do for most stations as when they open the barriers again people surge through - causing the same problem again.
I have to agree that it looks as if CG is getting the lion's share of the blame for not investing, and maybe that is partially correct. However, there are a lot of things that need the money more then the tube. Would you, for example, like to explain to little Timmy why his life saving cancer treatment op was cancelled so the money could be spent on improving the track at Kings Cross?
Little danger of rioting, but I can foresee some massive arguments coming up
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 22, 2014 15:12:32 GMT
I used to use Oyster for my around London wanderings, but in recent times I have found that the need to keep touching out at certain stations was a proper nuisance. If I've driven into London, I usually get a travelcard from East Finchley which is usually £8.90 off peak. If I catch the train, a cheap day return plus zones 1-6 travelcard is £20 with my Network Card, this being exceptionally good value. The good thing about a paper travelcard is the fact that you can ride around all day at will; no need to touch in and out = as much tube froth as you can handle. Yep - last time I went, a few weeks ago, a lot of people were having issues with their cards - I just went through with my card. Its also a little bit faster as i just put my card in and it comes out the other side where as people have to get their card wallet out, flip through to the oyster card holder and then press it on the yellow circle. Much easier and simpler for me to use cash and a paper ticket. # On a related note, as the thread is about ticket questions, I have two more questions to ask you all... When 24 hour tube running comes into play how will this affect tickets such as mine? Although I take only day trips what would happen if I was staying a night or two and had a Zone 1-6? Would I have to get a new card at 23:59? Also, what happens if I plan to leave the tube system at 23:55 for example and my train is delayed in the tunnels by six minutes so I get to the barriers AFTER midnight? Is there some grace period in the travelcard or would there be a member of staff to let me out as it would be understood there was a delay not of my making. Always wondered about that 2nd one
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 21, 2014 8:39:51 GMT
Should have asked for a 1-6 Travelcard by name or bought it from a machine. Whenever I have asked for a 1-6 Travelcard this what I got. It states clearly on the ticket. If you saw 1-9 you should have rejected it. The Oyster option would have saved you 50p as well. This now also applies to contactless bank cards. This would not have involved any inconvenience on the Underground as all stations are gated and would have meant your Travelcard had to be inserted when entering and leaving each station. On the DLR you do have to make sure you touch in and out to stay capped through the day. I shall certainly be more forceful on Wednesday when I go again... I dislike Oyster as, to me, it makes no sense - besides we have this marvelous invention in Hull called "Cash". I'd be soon running out of money on the darned thing if I keep going in and out of stations - so a travel card would be better for me if I am going in and out of stations
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 21, 2014 3:48:33 GMT
antje, my camera is neither Canon or Nikon... It is a Kodak Easyshare cx7300 which has served me for over ten years and is still going strong - I named her "Mildred" *looks* What? I like the name...
I shall have to check the specifications for image quality, but even if it is a tiny bit blurred, at least you would have a complete record
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 21, 2014 2:01:52 GMT
But I did ask for it several times by name - as stated in my previous posts
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 20, 2014 16:37:21 GMT
Where did you buy the Travelcard? Window 3 of the Ticket Office that is just as you come out of the St Pancras NR station. Is this a problem?
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 20, 2014 9:57:08 GMT
Slightly off topic, but how does one get Trackernet anyhow? I've seen the selfmade website for looking at the trains, but I was more interested in the actual diagram layout. Is it only the source code you can get?
To go back on topic, it was my understanding that a signal of some nature was sent from the train to the Signallers/Controllers to say the train was either in service or not in service, so I was confused as to the green light given
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