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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 19, 2014 21:38:58 GMT
Thanks very much for clarifying Didn't aslefshrugged say there was no one to drive it? Perhaps a new system of ATO?
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 19, 2014 11:53:15 GMT
Picture B - Grange Hill. Inset B is Perth Station with St Leonard's Bridge just off camera to the right
Picture C - Edgware Road
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 19, 2014 11:37:10 GMT
Ah yes, I quite understand that.
What I meant was the people employed by Bombardier - would they become employed by TFL or would they face the sack/redundancy?
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 19, 2014 11:27:41 GMT
Answer: South Tottenham - crossover Thats great - means I got two of these right... This quiz game is fairly good!
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 18, 2014 23:43:39 GMT
I noted a Break Away Clause with Bombardier - will that not lose them money?
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 18, 2014 20:15:38 GMT
I am due to go to London in the next few weeks - maybe as early as next Wednesday. Whilst there, would you like me to snap all the D stock I see just in case something happens, Gods Forbid, and you don't have the chance to get said unit into your collection? I am thinking through all sensible options to complete the remainder, since I can't just tell the Underground to rearrange the units since they've got more than just me to serve. Why not give it a try? Stranger things have happened with pure dumb luck and sheer audacity. In my younger days, I once rang up Northern Rail to request a certain Class 142 be allocated to a certain service from Hull. They did it simply because nobody had ever thought of trying that idea before The very least LU can do is to say "No", but if you mention you are a Historian (which technically you are) they might try to accommodate you
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 18, 2014 17:52:53 GMT
I tried to read the article 3 times, but it kept being overwritten by an article on the Scottish referendum. Fortunately on the fourth attempt an exit cross appeared. Thats the Scottish flag - not an exit cross *snickers*
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 18, 2014 17:09:30 GMT
This may be a little off topic, but what actually happens when a piece of track is decommissioned? I assume some sort of sticker or note is placed over a switch or on a screen before the track is physically removed. The fuses for the track circuits was removed and the points are scotched and clipped so even IF the signaller decided to press the wrong button nothing would actually move but would lock the site up if they not watching what there doing. The P-Way is in such a terrible state in the sidings and with the current passenger trains unable to fit in the sidings it was decided to stop wasting time for maintenance on equipment that never gets used. Also the signaller should have a collar on the button a type of cover for the button so it can't be pressed easily. Thanks for that - always wondered about it. Is there a gap between the points taken out of service and the physical work done to it or is it as soon as possible? Thought there would be something over the button
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 18, 2014 13:01:00 GMT
This may be a little off topic, but what actually happens when a piece of track is decommissioned? I assume some sort of sticker or note is placed over a switch or on a screen before the track is physically removed.
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 18, 2014 12:57:20 GMT
X over too near platform end for south tottenham I respect your opinion, however I believe I shall be proven correct - even if it is a gut feeling I am basing this on. That and I happened to be looking at some pictures at the time
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 18, 2014 7:41:07 GMT
I never knew it had done it...
Looked online and found no firm answer, so that picture is nice to see.
Would there be restrictions on which route/routes it could use due to rolling stock issues or would it be able to use the Picc all the way in?
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 18, 2014 3:32:26 GMT
Is it South Tottenham?
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 18, 2014 2:51:02 GMT
Not sure if it should go here, but it sounds about right as it is a question about a type...
I was sat at home reading about the 38 stock and I suddenly wondered if there was anything preventing, technical wise, the LT museum's train going all the way to Heathrow T5 and back again. If the tunnels for the Heathrow area were built to the same limits as the rest of the network, more or less, is there anything that stop it doing such a trip? It has been something that I have thought about, on and off, for a while now - now I am a member here, I thought I would ask more knowledgeable people
If there is such a reason or reasons that prevent it, then what are they?
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 17, 2014 18:09:58 GMT
Why would they need to go over to electric? Surely you could leave them as they are, rather than faffing around with what is essentially a rebuild beneath the Solebar. Remember that this would also be a rebuild of a train that is coming up for retirement, and in the case of the 142s, is due to be scrapped in or around 2019. A More realistic barrier rather than the fact that they are diesel is that they are desperately needed to operate and strengthen services on the many unelectrified lines in the north - not to mention that if a 142 turned up at chesham, most passengers would grab their briefcases and run away screaming towards their cars I meant if they ever went in the tunnels Have you ever seen a 142 or 144 throw out clag from a standing start?
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 17, 2014 16:33:17 GMT
Hmm... Now that could be interesting!
I shall have to look at the design specs and see if they would fit - although a need to battery fit or convert to electric rail for the pacers would have to be in order
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 17, 2014 15:00:49 GMT
And I wouldn't have it any other way Pacers will last forever - I hope Do you think Pacers would last on the Underground? I don't think they would fit, would they? Happy to be corrected on this
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 17, 2014 14:55:46 GMT
I presume that means somebody missed that during inspections.
Is this a fairly common occurrence or will there be a full scale investigation resulting in a 500 page report and three people losing their jobs as what seems to be the norm?
*Just joking about the losing jobs part*
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 16, 2014 23:28:28 GMT
They could do with those in Devon and Cornwall. The 150's are knackered. You think the 150s are broken? Try travelling Northern Rail, it's Pacer-tastic! And I wouldn't have it any other way Pacers will last forever - I hope
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 16, 2014 16:53:03 GMT
Thanks, folks, that's what I wanted to see & hear about Paragon.
And it's kept it's name, too. Unique amongst British stations for being the only Paragon station ever?
>snip<
There is something spiritual in the roof of a terminus, even amongst the pigeons. I suppose the Victorian engineers thought their passengers would probably be looking skyward unto our Lord, so might also marvel at the skill in designing and erecting the roof as to what talents God gave man?
Now, over 100 years on, we can marvel at it and its' endurance, too.
You are quite correct, theblackferret. There has never been a station with Paragon in its name before - so its unique alright... I know it sounds daft, but there is a feeling of contentment about getting on or off at a terminus. Often when getting on at a terminus station you want to burst our with "Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more" Nice to see that we are thinking alike on Hull, tbf... If you are ever up my way, let me know and I'll be my pleasure to buy you a drink and swap tales
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 16, 2014 12:44:11 GMT
Hull Paragon I have actually travelled to-23 November 1974 to be precise. I thought it quite impressive at the time and I hope the 40 years since have treated it kindly. Well next time you are ever up my way, tell me in advance and your first is on me! Hull Paragon has seen so many chances lately but has weathered them all and still stands to reign supreme!
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 16, 2014 11:35:45 GMT
Well, if one takes the rules literary...
I vote for Hull Paragon as it always warms my heart to come around Park Street Bridge flyover and see my home station. There is something magical and majestic about the structure in the dark - lit up like a beacon to drive monsters from sight. Many a time have I heard that metal tribute to Man's engineering skill and ability welcome me home after a long and tiring journey. Often have I got off the train, looked along well trodden platforms and shed tears at the thought of everything that the station has seen - and what it will see long after I have passed on.
That majestic, hallowed and most exquisite building, the location of lives made and lost, is therefore my vote in this fair discussion
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 16, 2014 3:45:55 GMT
Then why does the trolley say Ribblehead?
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 16, 2014 3:05:06 GMT
Inset 2: (click for a larger version) So I guess I was right about Inset B then!
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 16, 2014 0:04:37 GMT
Do all the door open on the train or have most of them been rendered inactive?
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 15, 2014 23:48:30 GMT
If i can add my own little names or two...
For many years the Children's Ward at my local hospital had a special one to not scare the patients in the case of a blaze - Fireman Sam (nice thinking). The local bus interchange will sometimes ask for an "Inspector Blake" to report to the control room.
My personal favourite is a story told to me by a ship's captain (will not say the vessel's name) who told me it is standard practice for British ships to play "Yellow Submarine", "Sailing" and Row Row Row Your Boat" in the event of abandon ship
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 15, 2014 14:54:41 GMT
Inset B is either
1) Pickering
2) Ribbehead
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 15, 2014 12:33:09 GMT
A few people are complaining about bad journeys this morning, (I think, predominantly, on the Central, but maybe not), but I wasn't up so I've no idea what happened - anyone know more? TFL says:
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 15, 2014 11:30:56 GMT
Well I think Revupminster and I have more or less the same place - give or take a few meters.
Revupminster can have the points and I'll take the runners up prize of a pint of cider
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 15, 2014 11:15:49 GMT
Inset B looks more of a northern setting
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Post by Indefatigable on Sept 15, 2014 0:02:47 GMT
Quite badly I would imagine! When I was training a couple of years ago the I.OP asked me to contact the controller via train radio to inform him that we would be undertaking coded manual driving through the pipe. The contoller immediatly replied 'Dont lose too much time through the road or you will have to put it back in ATO' Even today some controllera turn a blind eye to lazy drivers in ATO on a sunday so to keep it on time! Whats wrong with being in ATO on a Sunday?
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