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Post by mrfs42 on Apr 12, 2013 13:29:04 GMT
That needs a bit of WTT mining to sort out properly. As a first approximation, I think that it could mean Aldgate/Mansion House. I think what must be borne in mind that this RSTD unit was a 'master' (temporary) and could be moved around to wherever the outer end of the RSTD ambit was located.
AFAIAA the RSTD codes, and the antecedent ABCD (yes, I *do* mean antecedent) for City on the district side would be Manky House or Charing Cross.
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Post by mrfs42 on Apr 11, 2013 21:08:37 GMT
Right - I think this is from South Harrow, after looking through the relevant perils - I have the appropriate WTTs too. It is a temporary one, and has been removed from the box, to allow the later 'naked' picture to be taken of the innards.
Just got to look through my WV notes.... (and TT notes, for that matter)
Anyone care to offer an alternative?
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Post by mrfs42 on Apr 11, 2013 20:29:38 GMT
The describer set up unit is not from Acton as the photo of the cabin shows that the ones there are built into the lever frame, not individual and round topped like the one in the photo. Bear with me - I'm looking through the perils for the eastern and western extensions to the Picc. - round topped RSTD units like this were used at Acton in the stageworks.
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Post by mrfs42 on Apr 11, 2013 20:04:53 GMT
I might have an RSTD diagram that covers it - even though I've never worked on the system. I can definitively say that it is not Acton Town. Watch this space.
Also - bear in mind that these units were not primarily for the platform displays, these units drove the descriptions between cabin - the passenger signs were an add on, often driven through combinators so the public display would be different to the cabin displays.
EDIT: Partial answer Part 1: I have a suspicion that the non-stop codes were altered in 1934/5 I know that the WB Picc codes were altered in September 1935 and I think the EB road was done at a different date.
Partial Answer Part 2: Given the timimg of the pictures, it is possible that this RSTD unit configuration dates from the stageworks at the west end of the Picc - the units would be installed with all possible destinations (qv. the ability to set up Denham WB on the Central) in this case Cockfosters is present when going on the photographic evidence alone that Enfield West was the end.
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Post by mrfs42 on Apr 9, 2013 12:44:28 GMT
I did notice that on the October 1949 Beck map a proposed extension to Camberwell on the Bakerloo is marked, but without the intermediate station of Walworth Road shown on yours. For the record, there were two signalling schema that I know of drawn up with scale diagrams for the Camberwell extension. Only one of them had an intermediate station at Camberwell Gate; unfortunately the diagrams are undated. I have gone through my many files and have not found a match on the handwriting. However, even with several thousand files, this is only the tip of the iceberg, so I cannot say anything definitively. I suspect without a drawing code reference on the original that it is somebody's personal work, but what a lovely piece of work it is.
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Post by mrfs42 on Apr 5, 2013 9:10:06 GMT
If you can indulge someone with (fairly ancient) knowledge of Art History, it is quite straightforward:
1. It's contemporary - modern font, italics. 2. It's set in London. 3. It's a gangster movie - the Beckton branch is the fuse of a bomb, creating suspense as well as the silhouette of a running figure and the sights of a gun. 4. That's about it.
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Post by mrfs42 on Apr 4, 2013 10:42:14 GMT
PM me your email address - I've found a copy of the 1921 gradients in electronic form, with a chain scale.
Not sure about large scale track surveys, I've seen plenty but none of the Met pre-LPTB.
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Post by mrfs42 on Apr 3, 2013 22:03:08 GMT
I do - sort of. Can't comment on the existence of old mileposts, but I have somewhere seen a zero point noted at Baker Street, and I have gradient profiles in the Met. Sectional Appendix; I shall try and dig it out on the morrow.
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Post by mrfs42 on Apr 3, 2013 22:00:49 GMT
Depends what other roads are occupied....
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Post by mrfs42 on Mar 31, 2013 17:22:40 GMT
It does have more than a whiff of tonka toy about it, though....
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Post by mrfs42 on Mar 31, 2013 13:28:20 GMT
I'm working on it.. I have seen quite a lot of similar stuff that I worked through for the Northern Heights signalling - I will up date as and when I can, bear in mind that it may be someone's doodling in the days before computers!
I have several thousand images to go through, if I find a match on the handwriting - as I have about 60 years worth of stuff imaged (not comprehensive and not specifically about mapping) - I will report back.
I will say, if it were a Design Office job, it would most likely have a drawing number - and I have photographs of stuff that Beck would have drawn in his 'day job'. Can't promise anything, but I'll see what I can see.
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Post by mrfs42 on Mar 20, 2013 14:01:43 GMT
I wonder if anyone here can help me, placing semaphore signals on my layout ? this is the BR part of my BR/ LU layout I don't normally recommend other forums, but if you would care to go over to www.signalbox.org/forum/index.php and register there is a section there specifically for railway modelling and semaphore signalling. Myself and another member here are Moderators over on that forum, and I'll warn the list owner that you might be registering. There are quite a few differences between LU and BR semaphore signalling, and you'll probably get better information there. Importantly, you'll need to say what era of BR signalling you are trying to copy - what you've put looks roughly right for (say) mid-1970s and probably LM region.
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Post by mrfs42 on Mar 14, 2013 14:54:26 GMT
So, as he's now been banned, it looks as if we are not going to find out which line has most stations with no overground building. I'm sure we can work that out between us!
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Post by mrfs42 on Mar 13, 2013 22:22:12 GMT
Unfortunately, you will be left in limbo for some time, as stevo's account has been disabled. I was sent a message by him saying that he apologises for having to abandon you and the quiz for now, but he cannot post any replies to tell you whether you are right or wrong! Just a heads up stevo's account has been temporarily suspended by an Admin, pending an investigation by the Forum Staff. Most of the time this work goes on in the background, so other members need not know. MRFS.
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Post by mrfs42 on Mar 12, 2013 21:57:58 GMT
Back to Hammersmith, I think (off the top of my head) - it's a positioning move to get them out of the way of other terminators.
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Post by mrfs42 on Mar 5, 2013 1:52:49 GMT
I stopped reading at the beginning of the third paragraph when it was claimed "our train rushed into the station". Steam hauled trains do not rush into stations. They tend to slow down first and enter the station at a reduced speed They don't in late Victorian hyperbole; and nor did they in the days of the steam 'jazz' service out of Live. St.. Unfamiliarity suggests a gentler approach than was historically the case. Look at the pictures and see it in a 'ripping yarn' sense; fab find BTW.
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Post by mrfs42 on Mar 3, 2013 23:13:21 GMT
I may have something up my sleeve, once I've got rid of this manflu.... I know which Sectional Appendix it is in, but I don't think I can stand for long enough to find it.
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Post by mrfs42 on Mar 2, 2013 13:06:40 GMT
It'd take a wee while for this poor theologian to do the maths, but I suspect it is something to do with avoiding resonant frequencies and harmonics with the autosignalling feeds on the Hainault loop.
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Post by mrfs42 on Feb 25, 2013 22:05:32 GMT
Not seen anything in my digging around New Works Plan esoterica and arcana; certainly nothing that I know of emerged off a drawing board. There's plenty of stuff around for the Camberwell extension and I've had a quick sight of some TT planning for that, with no additions 'up line' from Elephant.
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Post by mrfs42 on Feb 22, 2013 7:46:47 GMT
Rail Magazine are looking for photos and info on the MetVick locos in particular Sarah Siddons for a feature later in the year. See the current issue (716) page 79 or contact stefanie.browne@bauermedia.co.uk Stefanie Browne joined the Forum yesterday, so hopefully she will also be able to ask questions for herself. You know how (usually) we're quite good at the obscure!
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Post by mrfs42 on Feb 21, 2013 3:05:17 GMT
I'm sure your question is perfectly innocent but that's information that could be very useful to undesirables so I'm locking this thread. Sorry! If I can briefly use Head Mods 'perks' (if you like) to reply after a thread lock - yes: there was a vicinal that would switch off current for the annual sheep fair. There is also a (very apocryphal) story about an interurban that was the current supply for the local penitentiary, and on certain days the current would need to be switched on early to supply the electric chair. I'd also better make passing reference to Wm. Traill and his live underpants... (read the inspection report for the Giant's Causeway Tramway - the nearest Ireland got to an Interurban). To answer the original question - it is very much a matter for each electrified railway to decide - all electrified railways are sectionalised (LT/LPTB resectionalised in the early 70s IIRC) so there is always the ability to isolate.
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Post by mrfs42 on Feb 14, 2013 9:01:15 GMT
I think the easiest answer is when the last R or CO/CP stock capable of displaying them was withdrawn.
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Post by mrfs42 on Feb 12, 2013 1:18:42 GMT
Bzzzzzzt. "You've forgotten to pay for your sandwiches" Nonnonono - as Crugwen would say: 'You forgot to pay for your sandwiches last year'.
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Post by mrfs42 on Feb 7, 2013 22:27:30 GMT
I'm torn between Y Fenni or Waterloo or Dorstone....
Dorstone
even though it's the next village along with the fibreglass spire that glows pink in the setting sun.
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Post by mrfs42 on Jan 29, 2013 17:09:45 GMT
Fascinating find! I bet the numbers were 4 digits too! Indeed they are. I did take a picture that I can post (if a moderator can confirm I won't be breaking any rules). If they're 4-digit numbers they've now been superceded (I think all have), so it should be alright. gulerodskage - look at your PMs, please.
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Post by mrfs42 on Jan 29, 2013 17:01:28 GMT
Am I also right in thinking that the telephone exchanges at Earl's Court and Finsbury Park were built in disused lift shafts at the bottom? Seems to ring a bell with me (sorry about the pun!). Yes, me too. I've seen reference somewhere to those locations.
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Post by mrfs42 on Jan 27, 2013 9:04:27 GMT
Which gives the rather charming possibility of Pittenweem. Being all in favour of stations in obscure kingdoms......
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Post by mrfs42 on Jan 25, 2013 16:43:36 GMT
I really want to like this show but I'm put off by the excruciating dialogue. Maybe it's "authentic" Victorian English but I doubt a Whitechapel police inspector would be talking like an encyclopaedia. Insofar as I can remember my linguistic theory and Bayesian analysis, he is using correct sentence formation for his social (moderately aspirational) social status. Granted, it seems akin to an affectation but it does match up closely with late Victorian letter and sentence structure. For other reasons I've suffered many years of reading the very writings of the era portrayed in Ripper Street.
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Post by mrfs42 on Jan 23, 2013 4:40:54 GMT
Amendments can be published in the Traffic Circular during the currency of the WTT.
Two paths are (if you like) the starting point.
There have been many cases over the past century at least where there are permanent amendments published via the TC or antecedents.
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Post by mrfs42 on Jan 20, 2013 20:26:37 GMT
Looks Good! I do think you got off lightly regarding snow. On Friday afternoon, you couldn't even see the numbers on the front! Like this?: Note that nothing had been in that platform at New Addington for a while.
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