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Post by glasgowdriver on Sept 24, 2008 7:40:36 GMT
Hey was doing the pre station opening checks this morning and at about 0345 seen that traction current was switched on on the northerbound tracks so i waited a few minutes then heard a train in the tunnel.
As it got closer noticed the lights were very very bright thought it was a TRV at first then out comes the 09 stock all i am gonna say is what a lovely looking train absoloutly stunning and sounded great will try get some pictures tonight if its out and an=bout again but wow cant wait for these to be all out running
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2008 20:29:52 GMT
apparently they are still prototypes they are not the final design, so who knows what they will look like  \ altho the prototypes they have running are very very very nice!! and what a spacious drivers cab!! woohooo!! |
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Post by metman on Sept 24, 2008 23:51:31 GMT
I guess the design has been decided. Mass production will begin soon.
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Post by glasgowdriver on Sept 25, 2008 7:20:14 GMT
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Post by upfast on Sept 25, 2008 8:20:10 GMT
never came thro last night/ this morning to many contractors were taking equipment and sand bags or whatever it was into the tunnels i take it there stuff for the closure this sunday looks like alot of work getting done between kings cross and islington this weekend fingers crossed see that 09 train running again before my night shifts finish  Have a look at the EWSA and Engineering Notice to see what nights it is running! |
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Post by glasgowdriver on Sept 25, 2008 19:04:56 GMT
yeah gonna take a look at that had a funny feeling it was not gonna run last night as the ammount of stuf contractors were taking in was unbelievable lol were there all night poor things gotta get a pic of it tho hehe
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Post by prjb on Sept 27, 2008 19:24:59 GMT
I guess the design has been decided. Mass production will begin soon. No, there are some quite big mod's being done before the 09ts starts full production. All is in hand at Bombardier however, which is a credit to their processes. |
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Post by tubeprune on Sept 28, 2008 6:29:39 GMT
I guess the design has been decided. Mass production will begin soon. No, there are some quite big mod's being done before the 09ts starts full production. Are you allowed to tell us more about this? |
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Post by prjb on Sept 29, 2008 21:14:56 GMT
No, there are some quite big mod's being done before the 09ts starts full production. Are you allowed to tell us more about this? No problem, I'm sure this has been mentioned elsewhere on the site in any case. The cab is undergoing a redesign for train 3 onwards which will bring it more into line with the 'S' Stock cab layout (but obviously not identical). Trains 1 and 2 will be modified when they return to Derby, as they are only pre-series trains they were always going to receive modification based on any required changes on completion of testing anyway. |
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Post by 21146 on Sept 30, 2008 22:49:44 GMT
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Post by tubeprune on Oct 1, 2008 12:25:24 GMT
Are you allowed to tell us more about this? No problem, I'm sure this has been mentioned elsewhere on the site in any case. The cab is undergoing a redesign for train 3 onwards which will bring it more into line with the 'S' Stock cab layout (but obviously not identical). Trains 1 and 2 will be modified when they return to Derby, as they are only pre-series trains they were always going to receive modification based on any required changes on completion of testing anyway. OK, does this mean LH drive?  |
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Post by ratfink on Oct 1, 2008 13:15:31 GMT
TBC is still RHS
seat becomes more adjustable, larger range of movement accomodated with adjustable footrest (as on S stock).
LCD screen for speedo display.
and most importantly of all
- new cup holder.
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Post by prjb on Oct 1, 2008 22:26:17 GMT
No problem, I'm sure this has been mentioned elsewhere on the site in any case. The cab is undergoing a redesign for train 3 onwards which will bring it more into line with the 'S' Stock cab layout (but obviously not identical). Trains 1 and 2 will be modified when they return to Derby, as they are only pre-series trains they were always going to receive modification based on any required changes on completion of testing anyway. OK, does this mean LH drive? The primary driving position is still on the right, but all the controls have been 'S' Stocked, we are calling it the 'S' Stock lite!! The main change is the removal of the 4 line LCD Mitrac display, this will be replaced with a colour touch screen version. |
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Post by undergroundernie on Oct 4, 2008 15:27:48 GMT
I wonder if this means that the simulators that have been installed for driver training will be moded as well. I must say I have tested the cup holder and its pretty good! haha.
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Post by prjb on Oct 5, 2008 21:26:33 GMT
I wonder if this means that the simulators that have been installed for driver training will be moded as well. I must say I have tested the cup holder and its pretty good! haha. The 09ts gets the same cup holder as the 'S' Stock, and as most people here now know - we spent a long time on that b****y thing! As for the simulators, yes they will need to be modified to reflect the final design. The current simulators are very good though, my 5 year old son and about 10 of his class mates went to Northumberland Park Depot in the summer holidays and spent the afternoon there driving them and they loved it. Sydac (the supplier) use sub-woofers under the floor which really give you the feeling of movement. |
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Post by slant40 on Oct 8, 2008 17:44:20 GMT
Lovely indeed! The little "hump" over the destination sign is a nice touch, in the same way that the "feather" grille was on the 1938 Tube Stock. Is it my eyes, or have the correct line color grab bars been fitted?
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Post by 21146 on Oct 8, 2008 18:37:21 GMT
IIRC the handrails around the doors on train 1 were light blue, the others were dark blue. On train 2 the ones nearest doors remain light blue but not sure of the rest (the train was stabled with car lights off)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2008 1:10:14 GMT
What's on these? flickr won't let me open them. If they are pics of the trains then I am interested. |
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Post by SE13 on Dec 10, 2008 5:43:51 GMT
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Post by londonstuff on Dec 10, 2008 7:44:20 GMT
What's the latest time frame to when these are going to see passenger service?
Now the 10pm closing has finished, as promised, in November, does that mean they're pretty much on schedule?
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Post by norfolkdave on Dec 10, 2008 16:53:06 GMT
Great photos, thankyou, migh how the stock is changing, big windows at the front clearer views, one thing Id like to ask, on the 38s and older stock one had entry to the cab separately, I notice on all new stock this isnt so now, do you get to the cab then through the car itself. Ive noticed on some stock that a small sliding door is near the drivers cab, is that indipendantly operated. Again great pics. |
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Post by astock5000 on Dec 10, 2008 18:02:09 GMT
I don't like the way the carriage number has been put on the front. In the second photo, you can just see the other 09TS to the right of the 67TS. |
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Post by Colin on Dec 10, 2008 20:25:50 GMT
one thing Id like to ask, on the 38s and older stock one had entry to the cab separately, I notice on all new stock this isnt so now, do you get to the cab then through the car itself. Ive noticed on some stock that a small sliding door is near the drivers cab, is that indipendantly operated. Again great pics. Only the 69ts on the Victoria line and MKII 72ts on the Bakerloo line have no side cab doors - all other stocks do have side cab doors and they are indeed independently operated. They are always white rather than the red used for passenger doors - perhaps this is where your confusion lies? Boarding a 69ts or MKII 72ts in a depot is done via a particular passenger door on the leading car, then via the J door. |
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Post by metman on Dec 10, 2008 21:33:12 GMT
By using the butterfly cock? Of course in service, the 'M' door and step plate(s) and grab rails can be used!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2008 1:56:48 GMT
Many thanks, great pics. I like the showing the old 67 stock next 09 |
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Post by Colin on Dec 11, 2008 4:27:24 GMT
By using the butterfly cock? And how would the driver shut a door from the inside after using a butterfly cock? I believe (though am open to correction, not being stock trained on the 69ts or 72ts) that there is a separate system for opening the single leaf door at the opposite end of the car to the cab. |
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Post by metman on Dec 11, 2008 8:14:36 GMT
That's why I asked! It never occured to me before. I guess I presumed the driver just climbed through the 'M' door!
I'll ask my mate who's based at Queens Park.
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Post by programmes1 on Dec 11, 2008 10:55:37 GMT
By using the butterfly cock? Of course in service, the 'M' door and step plate(s) and grab rails can be used! The butterfly cock was not used to gain entry, there is a key operated cock by what was the guards door which was supposed to be used once on board the door was just pushed and then allowed to close. Prior to going on the Bakerloo the 72TS Mk2 were fitted with metal plates across the front to allow crew reliefs at Baker Street. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2008 22:07:21 GMT
IIRC the handrails around the doors on train 1 were light blue, the others were dark blue. On train 2 the ones nearest doors remain light blue but not sure of the rest (the train was stabled with car lights off) I though the RVAR/DDA mandated that all new grab rails had to be bright yellow for visibility? |
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Post by Colin on Dec 20, 2008 23:40:40 GMT
Nope - grab rails only have to be a contrasting colour.
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\ altho the prototypes they have running are very very very nice!! and what a spacious drivers cab!! woohooo!!
