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Post by trc666 on Jan 22, 2009 15:35:14 GMT
Any more news on when the 09 stock will start to appear on public services?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2009 19:06:24 GMT
I think the fake ventilation strips would make them look better! It would also give the passengers the illusion of more ventilation, like the dummy fans on the 67TS. Sorry for the late reply to this post, but the ceiling fans in the 67 stock are not dummies. I've heard them whirring away on hot days - I think they're extractors, though.
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Post by Colin on Jan 22, 2009 19:32:33 GMT
Any more news on when the 09 stock will start to appear on public services? Yes - according to the internal staff magazine, June 2009
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Post by maxtube on Jan 24, 2009 16:37:04 GMT
Well, they were dummy fans previously, as stated in Brian Hardy's London Underground Rolling Stock.
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Post by Chris W on Jan 24, 2009 18:32:04 GMT
Yes - according to the internal staff magazine, June 2009 Interesting... LU publish their internal staff magazines 5/6 months ahead of themselves ;D ;D ;D Methinks Colin meant 2008
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Post by Colin on Jan 24, 2009 20:00:07 GMT
Last time I looked at the cover on me diary, it said this year was 2009 - and the new Victoria line stock is also known as the "09 tube stock"; there's generally a well known reason as to why tube stocks are named in such a way...... Even if LU did publish their internal magazine 6 months ahead (which of course they don't).... Actually, I'm gonna leave it there - has someone told you I've given smoking from today Chris? Today really isn't the day to try and wind me up
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2009 14:49:29 GMT
Well, they were dummy fans previously, as stated in Brian Hardy's London Underground Rolling Stock. I'm sure you're probably right and they were probably just dummies previously. I do indeed seem to remember that they didn't seem to do anything for quite some time before they were eventually activated and began their charecteristic humming sound.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2009 13:21:43 GMT
Hi, first post!
Does anyone know when 09 stock will start being tested in passenger hours, there are times in the WTT that "can be used for testing of the new 2009 stock at off peak times".
Thanks,
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2009 23:06:58 GMT
Out of interest...
Are these slots for test trains during the 20tph off-peak service?
If so, I would assume that the interval between in-service trains would be changed from 3 to 4 minutes?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2009 10:54:50 GMT
Out of interest... Are these slots for test trains during the 20tph off-peak service? If so, I would assume that the interval between in-service trains would be changed from 3 to 4 minutes? I can't remember. They are at off peak times though, but it says at 60 min intervals, so I don't think the off peak service will be much reduced. SSL Stock.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2009 6:02:06 GMT
Out of interest... Are these slots for test trains during the 20tph off-peak service? If so, I would assume that the interval between in-service trains would be changed from 3 to 4 minutes? I can't remember. They are at off peak times though, but it says at 60 min intervals, so I don't think the off peak service will be much reduced. SSL Stock. I actually meant that the interval would have to be changed from 3 to 4 mins to allow the test train to run in it's slot, but at other times the usual 3min off-peak frequency can be run.
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Post by prjb on Apr 4, 2009 20:43:48 GMT
I'm hoping that this thread isn't too old for me to add something? It is a relevant post however so I hope I will be forgiven if 2 months is a bit long to be ressurecting a thread. I was out on 09ts train 2 the other night in order to carry out a push out scenario with 09ts train 1. Train 2 coupled up to train 1 in Kings Cross N/B platform and pushed train 1 (with all spring applied parking brakes applied) all the way to Highbury & Islington. We stopped a number of times en route in order to ensure we would be able to get going again on the gradient and on arrival at Highbury we uncoupled. I have to say that I was thoroughly impressed with the performance of the 09ts in this scenario. In particular, the coupling and uncoupling process went without any hitches at all which is always an issue when trying to do this 'in anger'. Both trains were in crush load conditions (with weights) and train 2 motored without any issues, in fact it didn't even feel like it was pushing anything at all. When running on it's own train 2 took off like a bullet out of a gun and was extremely smooth both on acceleration and braking (including over points). Taking aside the design/style of the train (I know some have been critical) this is an impressive piece of kit. All this from an Sub-Surface operator!!
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Post by Colin on Apr 4, 2009 21:28:12 GMT
Cheers for the update prjb - the thread bump is no problem at all. Let's hope the 09ts is a good indicator of things to come with the S stock
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2009 21:38:33 GMT
Thanks for the info - just out of interest, has a test of a 67 pushing an 09 in a similar way been done yet?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2009 0:01:23 GMT
I'm not sure if this is the right thread for this enquiry but here goes.
I had a look at the wikipedia article on the 09 stock and it did state that one of the 09 stock units had made a test run on to the picc at finsbury park and had gone as far as barons court.
Does anyone know if theres any truth to this?
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Post by metman on Apr 10, 2009 0:11:35 GMT
I'm lead to believe it won't fit!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2009 1:24:15 GMT
Thats what I thought. I do remember a trial run of the 67 stock where by polystyrene blocks were fitted on the sides before it ran on the picc. Seems like this was done to test if the 09ts would fit on other lines. Would this be connected with the above?
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Post by Colin on Apr 10, 2009 3:28:14 GMT
Never trust anything on Wikipedia to be fact!!
It might be true, but then again it might not - personally I think it's unlikely as the 09ts hasn't completed testing on the Vic yet let alone venture anywhere else. On top of that, and has already been mentioned, it most likely wouldn't fit anyway as the 09ts has been built to wider dimensions than other 'tube' stocks.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2009 8:32:03 GMT
This has been raised before somewhere, around a year or so ago. The report was that Metronet were testing to see if it was possible to deliver 09 to NP by rail via the Picc, despite it being nominally out-of-gauge for the line.
Whether it is true - and if so what the answer was - I don't know. Might be a similar result to taking A stock round the southern side of the Circle!
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Post by maxtube on Apr 10, 2009 9:14:51 GMT
Might be a similar result to taking A stock round the southern side of the Circle! <Gets out of cab> Why is there no paint and lots of dents and scratches down the side of my train? ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2009 10:52:22 GMT
If I remember rightly, now dont quote me on this, but Im sure there was something awhile ago as stated above that the 09 would be delivered via the picc line but would not fit, but this was only one section and they have since done work in that section for the 09 to be moved through. Well thats what I was told by a metronet guy at the depot, who knows?
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Post by Chris M on Apr 10, 2009 12:15:03 GMT
I too remember reading on this forum, probably a year or so ago, that a trial run was going to take place to see if the 09s could fit. I don't remember there being any questions or doubts raised at the time about the reliability of the source telling us this. However I've never seen anything about whether this actually happened, and what the result was if it did.
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Post by North End on Apr 11, 2009 19:15:08 GMT
This has been raised before somewhere, around a year or so ago. The report was that Metronet were testing to see if it was possible to deliver 09 to NP by rail via the Picc, despite it being nominally out-of-gauge for the line. Whether it is true - and if so what the answer was - I don't know. Might be a similar result to taking A stock round the southern side of the Circle! I certainly recall LUL were investigating this possibility. Whether this came to anything is another matter. Where's Paul when we need him?
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Post by prjb on Apr 12, 2009 22:01:45 GMT
Apologies for arriving late, I do have a memo! The 09ts will be delivered by road and it seems, from discussions with my VLU colleagues, that the 09ts will not fit down the Picc. Better late than never!!
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Post by Ben on Apr 12, 2009 23:20:14 GMT
Is it just the 'S' bend at Sough Ken thats the problem?
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Post by carlovel1 on Apr 15, 2009 9:19:15 GMT
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Post by astock5000 on Apr 15, 2009 16:16:24 GMT
Aparently they sound like an electrostar train(class 357/375/376/377/378/465/466) Classes 465 and 466 are Networkers, not Electrostars.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2009 18:16:06 GMT
Aparently they sound like an electrostar They are based on the Electrostar platform but hopefully wont have the welding issues and recent delays of the Electrostars!
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Post by Tom on Apr 15, 2009 19:21:07 GMT
Aparently they sound like an electrostar They are based on the Electrostar platform but hopefully wont have the welding issues and recent delays of the Electrostars! All Bombardier products feature a similar traction package and thus sound similar.
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Post by londonstuff on Apr 16, 2009 10:43:55 GMT
Can the images be posted elsewhere so the rest of us can see them without needing an account pls?
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