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Post by Colin on Mar 15, 2006 0:25:34 GMT
Gents While passing through Earls Court yesterday morning saw 3-car units 7509 and 7529 travelling westwards attached How long have they been in service & whats the current situ regarding the refurb programme Regards Christopher Apparently they are the first two double-ended refurb units to be returned, and because none of the refurbs have been split yet and recoupled, it may be that they will remain in this form for quite a while now. This subject is discussed in more detail in this thread  ;D ;D: districtdave.proboards39.com/index.cgi?board=district&action=display&thread=1135364245&page=2 |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 16, 2006 13:18:35 GMT
what's the current situ regarding the refurb programme? Regards Christopher Train14 entered service on Mon 13 March. Train15 (7090+7033) arrived back at Ealing Common during the evening/morning of 14/15 March. The next 'double-bubble' to go away (should be) train20 (7518+7523). |
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Post by compsci on Mar 22, 2006 22:08:30 GMT
While travelling between Earl's Court and Gloucester Road at about 3:10pm today I'm pretty sure I saw a train which was half refurb and half not coming the other way. There might not be anything technically wrong with this, but I was under the impression that whole trains were refurbed at once.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2006 22:51:29 GMT
You saw the prototype. The electrical stud pattern on the refurb Wedgelock couplers are incompatible with the pattern on unrefurbed couplers. If you attempted a full couple, Bad Things would happen.
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Post by version3point1 on Mar 29, 2006 20:47:16 GMT
A random post, but I'm not a big fan of the 'D' stock refurb. I much preffered them when they were grey beasts that roamed the Far Eastern Realm of the District Line!
As a graphic designer, I tend to notice certain things whilst going about on any journey and one thing I seem to notice is the fact that the handle for the passenger alarm in the wheelchair space is quite low down. Whilst this may accomodate for the needs of wheelchair users, what happens if a small child raises the alarm? (This might be a stupid question, but it was just something that concerned me slightly).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2006 20:49:51 GMT
Double bubble D stock spotted on High Street Kensington - Olympia runs yesterday... On the run back from Olympia to Earls court I was joined in the back carriage by some people that appeared to be trying to break the record for the least time spent visiting all stations on the underground!
Oh what fun...
Sam
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Post by Colin on Mar 29, 2006 21:46:03 GMT
As a graphic designer, I tend to notice certain things whilst going about on any journey and one thing I seem to notice is the fact that the handle for the passenger alarm in the wheelchair space is quite low down. Whilst this may accomodate for the needs of wheelchair users, what happens if a small child raises the alarm? (This might be a stupid question, but it was just something that concerned me slightly). Believe me, it concerned us drivers at first, but happily, it has not caused any problems as far as i'm aware... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2006 23:48:45 GMT
As a graphic designer, I tend to notice certain things whilst going about on any journey and one thing I seem to notice is the fact that the handle for the passenger alarm in the wheelchair space is quite low down. Whilst this may accomodate for the needs of wheelchair users, what happens if a small child raises the alarm? (This might be a stupid question, but it was just something that concerned me slightly). On one of my first drives of a refurbished train I was treated to two operations of the passenger alarm. The first at Plaistow w/b was indeed a curious young child, apologetic parents, handle reset and train continues after a minor delay. (I have heard of countless such child operations from other drivers) The second operation on the same trip was at Gloucester Rd w/b, when a member of Network Rail staff seemed to think it appropriate to activate the alarm apparently because some passenger had been confused by the fact the platform indicator showed "wimbledon" but the train front/ side indicators and announcements showed "Ealing Broadway". Naturally the train was an Ealing and proceeded there after this "emergency" had been dealt with  |
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Post by solidbond on Apr 3, 2006 21:45:09 GMT
Train 17, 7086 - 7001, is now back, fully coupled up, sitting on the outside roads in Ealing Common this afternoon.
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Post by prjb on Apr 4, 2006 20:16:29 GMT
A random post, but I'm not a big fan of the 'D' stock refurb. I much preffered them when they were grey beasts that roamed the Far Eastern Realm of the District Line! As a graphic designer, I tend to notice certain things whilst going about on any journey and one thing I seem to notice is the fact that the handle for the passenger alarm in the wheelchair space is quite low down. Whilst this may accomodate for the needs of wheelchair users, what happens if a small child raises the alarm? (This might be a stupid question, but it was just something that concerned me slightly). All new rolling stock has to comply to RVAR (Rail Vehicle Access Regulations) which stipulate what we must include in order to make the stock accessible to our physically disabled customers. Items such as alarm handles are replaced with push buttons, so that those customers who cannot grip a handle for example are still able to operate the alarm. Relocating the alarms to a reachable height in the designated wheelchair areas is another such regulation. The 'D' Stock is not subject to RVAR because it is not a new stock, but LU and Metronet tried to meet the regulations as much as possible in order to show that we are aware of the needs of all our customers. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2006 22:32:37 GMT
Ironically the D stock refurb replaces push buttons with pull handles for the alarm.
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Post by prjb on Apr 4, 2006 22:38:51 GMT
Yes, I see your point. We are not fully compliant with the 'D' Stock refurb as it is not subject to RVAR but it is a significant improvement in terms of access for the disabled.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2006 20:55:45 GMT
There has been some further reforming of refubished D stocks .... today i had a train comprised leading cars 7118 and 7007, which is west unit of refurb 12 and east unit of refurb 16. More disappointing is that car 17007 which has only been in service a week or two, was graffiti etched with "Tox 06" and general scratching, gouged into the blue skirt paint along the side.  On sat I had 7118 + 7099, with 7099 having TOX 06 gouged into the red front After the clear problem with the C stock I hope they have made the D's easier to deal with this exterior gouging. (This is a copycat as the "real" Tox was quiet distinctive - this is different) One refurb D was uncoupled with the UNDM further uncoupled and in the lifting shops at Upminster ....which with double bubble may explain these swap arounds. |
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Post by TMBA on Apr 23, 2006 7:30:58 GMT
How many refurbs are there now then?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2006 8:57:42 GMT
15 out of 75.
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Post by solidbond on Apr 23, 2006 12:30:53 GMT
A little bit out there I've been on leave for the last 2 weeks, but Train 17 was sitting in Ealing Common depot last time I went past there, and that was 3 weeks ago ;D ;D. I would guess that train 18 has arrived back by now |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2006 13:05:39 GMT
Wow, amazing!
Too bad the D stocks can't go by rail though; I'm sure that the locals are getting rather tired of watching D stock carriages getting slung about in the suburbs...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2006 13:30:35 GMT
When I went into the Earls Court DMT office yesterday looking for my train the DMT said in another convo that there was 19 refurbs now. But he didn't know where my train was so what do Earls Court DMTs know |
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Post by rob66 on Apr 25, 2006 19:23:13 GMT
Travelling on the District line today - I had the pleasure of travelling in one of those refurb cars. Very nice indeed since I travelled on there last time. I thought the passenger emergency handles were bit on the low side - easy for a young child to pull.
The track going east from Whitechapel seems a bit rough I thought. Just as well there is a speed restriction there - other than that OK.
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 3, 2006 16:07:50 GMT
Refurb train18 (7052+7125) was returning to Ealing Common this morning.
train19 (7058+7129) @ Derby
train20 (7518+7523) @ Derby - should have additional handrails opposite wheelchair space.
train21 (7084+7069) next to go.
train22 (7076+7049)
train23 (7122+7057)
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2006 18:01:53 GMT
train21 (7084+7069) next to go. That's running about as train 26 today. I brought it out of Ealing Common this morning at 04.42 |
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Post by marty on May 5, 2006 15:22:02 GMT
How many are there going to be when I get back from my trip near the End of May?
20?
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Post by compsci on May 5, 2006 16:05:36 GMT
I am convinced that there is a conspiracy to prevent me ever getting on a refurb. I actually saw one stopped at Embankment westbound last week, but it escaped before I could get to it.
I can see the last refurb in existance appearing on cue when the time comes. When everything gets refurbished my presence in London will probably cause the entire District to be suspended.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2006 17:12:41 GMT
I waited for one at Ealing BDWY the other night (last Sunday in fact .... I believe the train number was 075), and I saw it in the platform as I legged it from a Central train over to the District platforms..... needed to relieve myself, so in I go to the toilet - I come out, and the trains still there. As I reach the rear doors of the last carriage, the doors shut and the train pullls away!! |
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Post by Tubeboy on May 5, 2006 17:43:53 GMT
Its always the way isnt it matey. love the refurbed trains. sad to see the end of the old seat covers though. Remind me of the lovely metrobuses. ;D
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2006 17:50:11 GMT
ahh, but all is not lost - the transport Museum is selling off bags made out of seat covers - the latest fad is a bath mat! - £25 mind you...
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Post by marty on May 6, 2006 8:35:21 GMT
Let´s hope it ain´t out of Non-refurbs...
"vomit from 7 different people in one bench of 92 stock"
(from Gpoing Underground-website)
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2006 10:08:43 GMT
The track going east from Whitechapel seems a bit rough I thought. Just as well there is a speed restriction there - other than that OK. 'specially if you're coming out of whitechapel bay platform over that bit of pointwork before you enter the tunnel. Entertaining to see anyone who hasn't braced for impact being flung accross the carriage though. |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2006 19:22:13 GMT
No-one flew across the carriage when I went over that tonight! (Few did get jostled about a bit though - including meself!)
Got meself on a refurb from Ealing > Tower Hill (finally ;D ). I don't like the way it announces the station just after you've left the previous one, especially as they are about 2 - 3 mins apart!
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2006 19:37:55 GMT
I'm not sure if it's the same on the unrefurbed (but then again I haven't exactly looked to see if it is!), but why is there what looks to be a bolted panel onto the bottom of the J door underneath the 'Emergency Access' handle?
Is it for the fire extinguisher?
Also, why is there a big thing in the middle of the J door (driver side, not passenger side), that looks like a huge metal box thing?
(I know its on the 92 stock and 73 stock.... I think its on the D stock as well )
Wossit there for?
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