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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2007 21:42:28 GMT
Got them on the Scotrail 170's [or the derivative of that] too...
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Post by District Dave on Sept 6, 2007 7:30:45 GMT
By the way, there has been a suggestion (from someone in Metronet!) that LU should mark the last silver train on the Underground in some way. But don't hold your breath! I put forward a proposal for this some time ago - and right up to the Line General Manager. I need to remind the powers that be about it, once I can get an accurate idea of when the last non-refurb is due to be withdrawn from service. Time will tell - and I'm saying no more about my idea! |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Sept 12, 2007 19:43:52 GMT
More recent movements:-
train53 7028+7053 in service
train54 7034+7123 in service
train55 7070+7089 in service
train56 7532+7502 both awaiting service
train57 7048+7095 Derby
train58 7018+7025 Derby
train59 7068+7067 Derby
train60 7056+7073 still in service (un-refurb)
which leaves 16 un-refurbished trains.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2007 21:04:06 GMT
from my calculations I think the last unrefurb may run in feb/march 2008
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2007 18:51:33 GMT
I was on 7012 last night and noticed some of the floor vinyl has started to lift. This unit has been refurbed just over a year ago, so I wonder if we will see a lot more of this.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2007 19:43:02 GMT
Have they just glued it over the old maple slats?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2007 19:48:33 GMT
Have they just glued it over the old maple slats? No, the old slats are gone, I think the vinyl flooring is glued over a plywood base. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2007 19:49:56 GMT
I was on 7012 last night and noticed some of the floor vinyl has started to lift. This unit has been refurbed just over a year ago, so I wonder if we will see a lot more of this. yeah i noticed that on another one the other day wasnt the train you are talking about..... hope it doesnt happen to all refurbs |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2007 23:22:19 GMT
16 !!!! woahhhh i think a few trips to london to hunt for the last ones is needed!!! Take my last few trips on my loved original D stock...
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Post by Dstock7080 on Sept 25, 2007 11:05:27 GMT
I am hearing from a source that unit 7008 will go away for refurbishment in mid-December and will be the very last unit to return because of the complexities involved in it's transformation.
So there will be a full "last silver train" running around after all !
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2007 17:09:07 GMT
Yes, better get out there to catch the last wooden floored trains we have...
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 21, 2007 14:15:24 GMT
To keep the numbers rolling, here is the latest:
train57 7048+7095 in service
train58 7018+7025 in service
train59 7068+7067 in service
train60 7056+7093 in service / awaiting service
train61 7112+7109 Derby
train62 7538+7505 Derby
train63 7066+7023 Derby
Which leaves 12 trains to be refurbished.
The following units survive:
7008, 7040, 7042, 7044, 7046, 7060, 7078, 7080!, 7094, 7100, 7128.
7009, 7011, 7017, 7051, 7059, 7063, 7073, 7077, 7097, 7103, 7115.
7530, 7534.
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Post by trainopd78 on Oct 21, 2007 15:06:16 GMT
Only around 5 months of Silver reliable D's left then. Get on them quick.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2007 19:53:44 GMT
I wish 7100 (The Silver Streak) was to be last to be done ! This unit in my time has always been a superb (very fast) performer ...and it has good brakes ! I love getting this one  (Though I gather stopping, or lack of lead to it's name !) Sadly i think i saw a list in which it is down to go soon ! |
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Post by trainopd78 on Oct 22, 2007 16:52:08 GMT
Once bombardier have had their mitts on it, you may achieve 20 mph in it, eventually. ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2007 17:03:32 GMT
Yeah, once the extra mouse has been installed...
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Post by trainopd78 on Oct 22, 2007 19:05:05 GMT
I actually drove a refirb (yes, I occasionally drive trains ;D ) yesterday that felt like a non refirb in terms of acceleration. it was a pleasure to drive. I won't tell Bombardier or they'll want to fix it. ;D ;D
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Post by edb on Oct 22, 2007 21:57:37 GMT
May i ask what the issue with the refurbs is?
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Post by Colin on Oct 23, 2007 1:00:48 GMT
They weigh more due to extra stuff like cab air con, CCTV equipment, paint, etc - the effect on acceleration from standstill is noticeable compared to a non-refurb.
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Post by trainopd78 on Oct 23, 2007 8:36:38 GMT
I'm sure that if the motors were overhauled, it wouldn't be an issue. However until hell freezes over we're stuck with slow trains.  |
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Post by edb on Oct 23, 2007 12:42:49 GMT
Are they slow enought to affect the service??
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Post by District Dave on Oct 23, 2007 19:40:56 GMT
On the subject of a farewell to the last non-refurb full train, I had a brief discussion about this today with a 'Power that Be'.
I'm told that this is still very much on the cards as being a 'special' - a good number of people recognise it's a passing of note.
Rest assured that we will probably be very early in the list of those 'in the know' here!!
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Post by Colin on Oct 23, 2007 21:53:39 GMT
Are they slow enought to affect the service?? Not really as there is 'slack' built into the timetable. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2007 23:31:21 GMT
Are they slow enought to affect the service?? Not really as there is 'slack' built into the timetable. It doesn't matter if all is running well, but if you are running late and want to make up some time it is very frustrating to be stuck with a train that has poor acceleration and/or weak brakes. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2007 23:32:29 GMT
On the subject of a farewell to the last non-refurb full train, I had a brief discussion about this today with a 'Power that Be'. I'm told that this is still very much on the cards as being a 'special' - a good number of people recognise it's a passing of note. How about a railtour along the lines of the Metroliner tour in 1980? Get 60mph of them while we still can. ;D |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 24, 2007 20:33:29 GMT
I wish 7100 (The Silver Streak) was to be last to be done ! This unit in my time has always been a superb (very fast) performer ...and it has good brakes ! I love getting this one (Though I gather stopping, or lack of lead to it's name !) Sadly i think i saw a list in which it is down to go soon ! You are indeed right! It left the day after you posted this! ps. it's "Silver Streak 2" BTW ! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2007 1:14:59 GMT
Only around 5 months of Silver reliable D's left then. Get on them quick. I doubt it will be that long, if previous stock replacements are anything to go by. Once their is 3 or 4 trains left, they will be left in the depot and only be put in service as a last resort, the last few will also be always run as Ealing Common stablers as this is the depot where they are being removed from. My guess is that apart from any special event you won't see a non refurb in service after Janurary. |
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Post by trainopd78 on Oct 25, 2007 8:11:13 GMT
Only around 5 months of Silver reliable D's left then. Get on them quick. I doubt it will be that long, if previous stock replacements are anything to go by. Once their is 3 or 4 trains left, they will be left in the depot and only be put in service as a last resort, the last few will also be always run as Ealing Common stablers as this is the depot where they are being removed from. My guess is that apart from any special event you won't see a non refurb in service after Janurary. I don't think the depots have got that luxury this time round. With 3 trains away at any one time all resources are out on the road so I think on this occasion they'll be out until last knockings. Saying that though, Monday to Friday only is a plan that could work and as you say Jim they could put them on inter peak stablers only, but this means that they'll be in service for all but 4 to 5 hours of the traffic day. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2007 1:22:40 GMT
but this means that they'll be in service for all but 4 to 5 hours of the traffic day. That's still 5 hours too much. Give me a refurb any day ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2007 1:29:37 GMT
Well i plan to go on a farewell tour of my own soon. When is the best time to do this before i would be out of time? I plan to do a whole trip through the entire District line on a refrub. I am gonna miss the character. Though i must admit i do feel safer at night on a refurb.
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