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Post by citysig on Jun 5, 2007 12:52:05 GMT
While CitySig keeps you waiting at his signals you can redecorate using your best Rolf Harris impression  Ahem. It's normally only 1 particular signal we keep them waiting at Districts occasionally become detained at. I am sure that when under the control of a certain other control room, SB would have time to do a complete Leonardo da Vinci on the cab ;D |
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Post by District Dave on Jun 5, 2007 20:18:26 GMT
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Post by Tom on Jun 5, 2007 22:10:55 GMT
I've got to be at work for the next two sundays - and I'm not supposed to be anything other than a 9-5 mon-fri person...
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Post by solidbond on Jun 5, 2007 22:13:13 GMT
I'll have you know I've worked loads of Sundays recently - one of the reasons I've pulled out of the mafia at Upminster  So now I'm doing my own rostered turns except when delivering training ;D |
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Post by antharro on Jun 11, 2007 23:45:39 GMT
Saw a single D-stock carriage on the M25 this evening, nice and shiny. Didn't note the number tho as I was driving. Don't recall the exact location, but the junction numbers must've been in the high teens.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jun 12, 2007 11:47:06 GMT
That would be part of unit 7036, which was unloaded at Ealing Common this morning.
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Post by prjb on Jun 20, 2007 21:30:01 GMT
Just to update you all on 17008. We are now in the final stages of deciding what will happen to this unit and there have been some 'out of the box' suggestions too! There are going to be some features that will be unique and obvious to the informed/enthusiast. As an example; the ceiling profile in 17008 is unique, with the original supports removed, so this will definately remain as is. The end car windows on 17008 will remain a unique size too, as I believe Colin intimated in another thread some time ago. There are lots of differences that may or may not be kept and the final details are still to be decided. As soon as we have made a decision I will give you all a full run down.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2007 22:24:06 GMT
Train 50 should be returning within the next few days. This will take the number of refurbs done to exactly two thirds of the fleet.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jun 26, 2007 18:17:42 GMT
To update the situation further:
train48 7030+7035 in service (17035 trailer was 17077)
train49 7036+7071 in service (to update earlier post by Solidbond)
train50 7526+7525 awaiting service / Derby
train51 7010+7039 Derby
train52 7026+7055 Derby
train53 7028+7053 Derby
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Post by towerman on Jun 26, 2007 20:25:52 GMT
So what's running in the middle of 7077 unit?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jun 26, 2007 21:39:29 GMT
So what's running in the middle of 7077 unit? 17035 would you believe! These cars were renumbered and reformed some while ago now. Unit 7035 was the one that mounted the eastbound platform at Whitechapel and unit 7077 was stalled at Richmond with a flashed over motor (result of flooding, I think). Both of these incidents took place within weeks of each other but one repair would take much longer than the other. So the decision was made to reform and then subsequently renumber the cars into the corresponding units. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2007 1:44:26 GMT
Does this mean that 17035 is now 17077, and 17077 is laid up with the rest of 7035? Or did they just leave the numbers alone?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jun 28, 2007 12:44:49 GMT
Right I have been trawling through my information to find the answers!
Unit 7007 was indeed involved in flooding at Richmond on 7 Aug 1991 which resulted in a flashed-over motors.
Unit 7035 was the unit which mounted the platform at Whitechapel on 7 Jan 1992, causing damage to 17035.
Both units remained out of service.
Then on 10 Jan 1995 mis-formed unit 8035-17077-7035 re-entered service, numbered as shown.
The next info I've found shows 8035-17035-7035 overhauled 4 April 1996, then 8077-17077-7077 'released for service, following engineering modifications'.
I have no exact date for the renumbering yet, although London UndergrounD Rolling Stock, 2002 quotes this as '1994'.
If you look at the still unrefurbished trailer of unit 7077, you can see that the trace of it's former number on the car-end corners.
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Post by prjb on Jul 11, 2007 20:07:51 GMT
Just to give you all an update on the 'J' Door lip. We had a meeting this morning and MRSSL are going to give us a price to add an aluminium strip to the floor below the 'J' Door which will stop any liquid ingress. As the strip is aluminium it will be visible from the prespective of trips/slips/falls and any increase in risk is offset by the fact that liquids are kept at bay which then reduces the risk of slips/trips/falls. We suspect the price is not going to be as large as we first thought (LU staff PM me if your interested) which is good news as this increases the chances of a successful business case. It's a slow process I know but we do seem to be getting there!
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Post by prjb on Jul 11, 2007 20:12:16 GMT
Train 52 is due back on Tuesday 17th July as I am going down to Ealing Common to inspect it as it is delivered.
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Post by Colin on Jul 12, 2007 4:21:48 GMT
Re the J door strip, sounds like positive news indeed - lets hope it happens.........
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 26, 2007 17:14:50 GMT
Recent movements:-
train50 7526+7525 in service
train51 7010+7039 in service
train52 7026+7055 in service
train53 7028+7053 in service / Derby
train54 7034+7123 Derby
train55 7070+ ? Derby
train56 7532+7502 Derby
which leaves 19 un-refurbished trains.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2007 1:35:08 GMT
Seen 8089 being unloaded at Ealing Common Depot this evening.
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Post by happybunny on Aug 30, 2007 8:27:09 GMT
Was on a D Stock yesterday (sorry didn't get unit num) but it appeared there was CCTV cameras affixed to the roof of the unit (2 of) in like a downwards dome shape kinda.. from the roof. Is this going to be done to all the cars on all refurb D Stocks?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Aug 30, 2007 11:01:18 GMT
Although I haven't seen it myself, I understand from a colleague it's unit 7028.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2007 14:01:45 GMT
Although I haven't seen it myself, I understand from a colleague it's unit 7028. 7028 has the forward camera in the cab . I drove it last week, but didn't notice any extra cameras in the car. |
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Post by trainopd78 on Aug 30, 2007 18:55:50 GMT
I've noticed the refirbs (possibly a new delivery?) has "priority seat" moquette on certain seats. I didn't have a chance to get the unit number though.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2007 19:14:58 GMT
i dont know if this has been brought up before but when a refurb comes into south ken it usually says on the DVA change here for piccadilly line and alright for the musems and royal albert hall but in the mornings and late evenings it just says change for piccadilly lines is there some sort of internal clock what shuts that part of the message off or is it done via the driver ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2007 19:22:44 GMT
i dont know if this has been brought up before but when a refurb comes into south ken it usually says on the DVA change here for piccadilly line and alright for the musems and royal albert hall but in the mornings and late evenings it just says change for piccadilly lines is there some sort of internal clock what shuts that part of the message off or is it done via the driver ? It is an internal clock, it's supposed to do a shorter version in the peak hours. But it can't tell what day of the week it is, so 8:30am on a Sunday is peak time as far it is concerned.  By the way, there has been a suggestion (from someone in Metronet!) that LU should mark the last silver train on the Underground in some way. But don't hold your breath! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2007 21:13:08 GMT
Although I haven't seen it myself, I understand from a colleague it's unit 7028. 7028 has the forward camera in the cab . I drove it last week, but didn't notice any extra cameras in the car. I had it one day last week .... I found it very distracting, as i kept finding myself looking at the camera instead of looking forwards ! There are indeed extra camera's in the interior ceilings of the unit, in a black glass bubble, like you get on buses.. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2007 23:41:46 GMT
7028 has the forward camera in the cab . I drove it last week, but didn't notice any extra cameras in the car. I had it one day last week .... I found it very distracting, as i kept finding myself looking at the camera instead of looking forwards ! You're just vain ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2007 16:17:20 GMT
Whats the reason behind installing the forward camera in the cab of 7028 please. Does it work all the time while the train is in in service, and is used as a security measure?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2007 16:44:17 GMT
Whats the reason behind installing the forward camera in the cab of 7028 please. Does it work all the time while the train is in in service, and is used as a security measure? This is still being trialed for the S stock atm. The idea is to obtain evedence of trespassers on the track and in incidents. Some Chiltern trains have forward facing cameras on their trains. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2007 19:38:57 GMT
Trespassers are rarely in direct view of the front cab ! and anti social behaviour is usually enacted on the train sides, not the front.
Unless the lens is an extremly wide angle (in which case distortion would make the "evidence" unviable ) it wouldn't pick up anything of value. In any event location of individuals and prosecutions for such things happen only in the most exceptional of circumstances (and if they do the penalties are negligable), so that would be a waste of money. I'm surprised there was a buget to fit it, there doesn't seem to be one for useful modifications that meet a costs v benefit analysis !
As far as I can see the camera can serve only to provide evidence in the event of a person under train incident, or to be used in actions involving the driver (SPAD's, signal irregulaities and near misses)
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Post by Chris W on Aug 31, 2007 19:49:50 GMT
I've also seen these type of cameras on later refurbished ONE 315's working out of Liverpool St - on the non driving side! I've got a feeling that they're going to become the norm on Britain's railways for both good and bad reasons |
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Whilst it may be a novelty for most, for the drivers it is a complete PITA as the cab is white, so makes it impossible to drive in the tunnel sections with the cab light on, and not that good with the light off 
