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Post by Chris L on Aug 30, 2022 17:35:55 GMT
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Post by brigham on Aug 30, 2022 18:07:44 GMT
"Levelling up the country should not be about levelling down London” ...Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan.
Well, he would say that, wouldn't he?
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Post by Chris M on Aug 30, 2022 19:33:39 GMT
"Levelling up the country should not be about levelling down London” ...Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan. Well, he would say that, wouldn't he? Yes he would say that but this doesn't stop it being absolutely true. It is however a matter of political opinion (and thus not suitable for discussion on this forum) whether the government and/or mayor are levelling down London.
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Post by Tom on Aug 30, 2022 21:39:53 GMT
Indeed, Chris, and we will be watching this thread closely to ensure that this does not turn into a political discussion.
You have all been warned!
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Post by hobbayne on Sept 1, 2022 15:39:19 GMT
I,m sure I read somewhere in this statement that the government will no longer pay for the freedom pass for the old folk. And children will lose the free travel for under 11's.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Sept 1, 2022 19:44:37 GMT
I,m sure I read somewhere in this statement that the government will no longer pay for the freedom pass for the old folk. And children will lose the free travel for under 11's. Item 11e of the document linked above:
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Post by jimbo on Sept 1, 2022 20:18:08 GMT
Same condition as previous COVID funding grants I believe.
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Post by Chris L on Sept 1, 2022 22:18:27 GMT
I,m sure I read somewhere in this statement that the government will no longer pay for the freedom pass for the old folk. And children will lose the free travel for under 11's. Item 11e of the document linked above: This refers to the 60+ Oyster card rather than the Freedom Pass. It was introduced by Boris Johnston when he was Mayor. It was when the retirement age for women was raised to 65. You have to pay a minimal charge for the card. It is currently restricted with travel not allowed on TfL services before 0900 on Mondays to Fridays. Rather awkward that the government doesn't recognise that you don't get a Freedom Pass until retirement age which is currently 66 (not 65).
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Post by stapler on Sept 2, 2022 7:16:07 GMT
ENCTS is a statutory provision; add-ons like early and late travel, 60-66 or 18-25 would be for the local authority (or TFL, who must ape the mayor) to fund, not the govt. This is the Treasury battening down as usual
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Post by brigham on Sept 2, 2022 7:29:58 GMT
I,m sure I read somewhere in this statement that the government will no longer pay for the freedom pass for the old folk. And children will lose the free travel for under 11's. I wasn't aware that the Government paid for these benefits in the first place.
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Post by Chris L on Sept 2, 2022 7:50:58 GMT
I,m sure I read somewhere in this statement that the government will no longer pay for the freedom pass for the old folk. And children will lose the free travel for under 11's. I wasn't aware that the Government paid for these benefits in the first place. It states on the Freedom Pass that it is funded by HM Government and your local authority.
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Post by AndrewS on Sept 2, 2022 17:09:17 GMT
Quite a few under-18s are entitled to free travel at least for certain journeys (the reference to "statutory entitlements including under the Education Act 1996"). I think TfL have in the past made the case that the administrative costs and datas protection issues for them and for the other parties (schools etc) that have to assess that entitlement outweigh the saving made by not giving free travel to all children. You then get the side-benefits (fewer parents clogging the roads driving their kids to school, children getting into the habit of using public transport as they grow up, more flexibility for both the family and the local authority in choosing which school a child attends, no need to issue/withdraw passes at short notice if a family's finances change etc) for nothing.
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Post by Tom on Sept 2, 2022 20:53:03 GMT
Quite a few under-18s are entitled to free travel at least for certain journeys (the reference to "statutory entitlements including under the Education Act 1996"). When I was at secondary school I was entitled to such benefits - they were administered by the Local Authority rather than by TfL (or, as it was in those days, LRT). At the start of my secondary school career the Local Authority provided the ticket (and I think they had issuing facilities for such tickets), but later on my parents were sent a cheque or warrant for the value of the ticket required, which was then issued at any Underground ticket office. (As an aside the tickets provided got progressively more generous as the years went on and by Year 11 I had a Zones 1-4 bus pass each term, which made for some interesting days out.)
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Post by aslefshrugged on Sept 3, 2022 10:38:48 GMT
Freedom Pass is funded by London Councils, the local government association that represents all 32 boroughs plus City of London. The funding is split between TfL and ATOC
I imagine the government give the Boroughs a grant to cover the Freedom Pass and give similar grants to other English councils
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Post by jimbo on Oct 13, 2022 19:25:19 GMT
Today's Bank station media release provides an update on current demand. Papers for the TfL Programmes and Investment Committee meeting on 19 October 2022 report that as demand recovers, peak crowding on LU services is expected to return to pre-pandemic levels by the early 2030s, and to increase further as population and employment grows with economic recovery. So that forecast is for a ten-year recovery period. Plenty of time to get around to capacity improvement planning again!
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Post by Chris M on Oct 13, 2022 21:34:04 GMT
Actually planning for capacity improvements should begin now (if it hasn't already) so that the capacity is there when (or ideally before) it is needed.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 24, 2023 17:56:50 GMT
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Post by johnlinford on Mar 24, 2023 22:21:40 GMT
Most of the ones on the DLR haven't had working pumps the majority of time since lockdowns ended due to vandalism so this is probably for the best!
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Post by rincew1nd on Mar 25, 2023 22:36:48 GMT
The National Railway Museum already have a small collection of covid related materials, including a sanitiser station from Waterloo:
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Post by trt on Mar 27, 2023 11:35:03 GMT
There's a chance some digital archive materials may be lost too! IMG_3768 by MonkeyBoy69, on Flickr
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Post by Tom on Mar 27, 2023 12:13:25 GMT
Indeed - which reminds me I rally ought to photograph some of the posters we have up at work from the early days of the pandemic.
I made a point of photographing the ones on the Berlin U-Bahn last time I was there - this was just days after they abolished the compulsory wearing of masks (I think we arrived on the last day).
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Post by spsmiler on Mar 27, 2023 14:16:29 GMT
Once I got over the initial horror of what was happening, yet again, I realised that in the future there will be people who will want to see events as experienced and photographed by ordinary people. My only happiness in taking these photos is that this horror is over and far, far fewer people perished than either the post-WW1 epidemic or some medical experts were predicting for our generation. Anyway, a collection of 200+ photos - some from the London Underground (once we were allowed to use it again) but also photos of buses (anyone remember that they offered free travel?), taped over park benches, shops with the 2 metre floor markings and more. A few locations are places where I would never normally take photos, but I felt it was important to record the scene for future generations. Locations include Ilford, Gants Hill and Newbury Park - all visited (whilst out walking) during the permitted hour-long outdoor excercise. A few photos were also taken at Barkingside, I went there on a weekly basis for food shopping. As an aside, these weekly trips by car helped keep the car running smoothly - many people who did not use thair cars at all during the first lockdown found that they had battery problems and their tyres were soft. www.flickr.com/photos/citytransportinfo/albums/72157714002723433
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Post by 1018509 on Mar 29, 2023 21:42:25 GMT
spsmiler This is brilliant.
Thank you.
I hope a lot more people have done this around the country.
I wish I had done this in my area.
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 8, 2023 17:55:39 GMT
spsmiler This is brilliant. Thank you. I hope a lot more people have done this around the country. I wish I had done this in my area. Thank you. I also set the copyright on my photos as CC0, which effectively means that I made them copyright-free. even for commercial use. Maybe I was mad in not trying to financially benefit from these images but I wanted to make it so that (for instance) school children studying this time period would be able to include real-life images without copyright issues. I also added my photos to some of the several Flickr groups which specialise in photos taken during the pandemic, the lockdowns, etc. btw, its the Easter holidays, 2023, and I was in Central London today - tourists were everywhere. Social distancing is over*. Life as it should be. *) Whilst out today I saw some 'maintain social distancing' signs near the platform 17 toilets at Stratford and one of the automated station announcements still talked about the wearing of masks!
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Post by jimbo on Nov 30, 2023 21:48:33 GMT
Latest TfL figures show the Tube reaching 4 million journeys per dayIn total, passenger journeys are now 89 per cent of pre-pandemic levels, up from 85 per cent at the end of 2022/23. DLR ridership is currently 80 per cent of pre-pandemic levels. London Overground ridership is currently 96 per cent of pre-pandemic levels. But still no Government funding support beyond March 2024.
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Post by johnlinford on Nov 30, 2023 23:13:01 GMT
It's surprising the DLR is so much lower - I wonder if there's been an element of substitution from Crossrail affecting that?
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Post by jimbo on Dec 1, 2023 1:07:26 GMT
DLR passenger numbers are now 3% higher than before the opening of the Elizabeth Line, when it was expected that the DLR would experience an initial drop in demand. (TfL Programmes and Investment Committee papers for 6 December 2023) 30% of Elizabeth line demand is 'new', with most of these trips generated (i.e. customers would not have made these trips without the existence of the Elizabeth line). This factor was only forecast at 2% pre-opening of the line. (Elizabeth Line committee meeting on 25 July 2023)
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Post by brigham on Dec 1, 2023 8:28:46 GMT
It looks like every attempt to ease congestion simply creates more traffic.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Dec 18, 2023 14:24:23 GMT
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Post by d7666 on Dec 18, 2023 16:16:14 GMT
When one considers the Piccadilly tube stock was £1500m at press release at time of order announcement, £250m is not a lot compared with what is actually needed, for which there is none, like Picc resignalling, killing 72TS, resignalling Bakerloo, and even some new battery locos that are not going to go on forever, and never mind track, and lifts, and stations, and escalators. And, as it is pan TFL funding, not just UndergrounD / Overground, spend on non railway stuff (if they must).
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