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Post by Chris L on Sept 29, 2023 18:02:46 GMT
Its great that such an aged infrastructure as the Connaught Tunnel is still able to earn its keep but I always wondered whether it will become a longer-term liability. I hope not, as the service to south-east London is of strategic importance. The work was significant and really created a new tunnel.. Refurbishment and modification to the existing Connaught Tunnel and approach ramps, including converting the twin binocular tunnels into one large-bore tunnel, requiring the central section to be removed and rebuilt by ‘cut and cover’ method enabled by two cofferdams in the dock allowing dewatering. Upgrading drainage systems.
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Post by spsmiler on Jan 22, 2024 15:03:07 GMT
As we know, the passenger information screens (PIS) are above the platform doors.
Last Thursday I saw some of the displays showing information in a format that I've not seen before:
Alternate PIS displays showed this format and information in the more traditional format.
PS: Message edited in February 2024 because I've found a way to get Tweets to parse so that they are visible
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Post by lutn on Jan 22, 2024 15:11:55 GMT
As we know, the passenger information screens (PIS) are above the platform doors. Last Thursday I saw some of the displays showing information in a format that I've not seen before: Alternate PIS displays showed this format and information in the more traditional format. x.com/citytransportin/status/1749201154196615293x.com/ citytransportin/status/1749201154196615293?s=20 I've realised them as well. Knowing the platform staff do announce the trains sometimes, they do tend to call out the stopping points on the service so I'm assuming its for staff reasons.
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Post by xtmw on Jan 22, 2024 16:32:56 GMT
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Post by spsmiler on Jan 23, 2024 12:07:49 GMT
The trial was supposed to have ended in October - my photo dates from this month, January 2024.
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Post by Chris L on Jan 23, 2024 18:29:01 GMT
The trial was supposed to have ended in October - my photo dates from this month, January 2024. It did end and went to consultation and they've chosen what to use now. The list of calling points on the right panel is much better than the hard to see route diagram. Heathrow destinations showing via Terminals 2 & 3 also better.
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Post by spsmiler on Jan 24, 2024 21:39:43 GMT
Thanks - so hopefully this will be used more often - but not everywhere / instead of the scrolling line version.
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Post by elsombernie on Jan 24, 2024 22:27:19 GMT
The new version is now live at Woolwich.
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Post by spsmiler on Jan 25, 2024 11:04:26 GMT
The new version is now live at Woolwich. Is it at all doorways or does it alternate with the older / original version?
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Post by elsombernie on Jan 25, 2024 15:26:06 GMT
As far as I could see, it was all of them, but I didn't go past door 9 on the westbound.
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Post by jimbo on Feb 21, 2024 23:14:35 GMT
[TfL Programmes and Investment Committee papers for 28 February 2024 meeting]
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Post by spsmiler on May 22, 2024 9:47:34 GMT
They have actually / finally changed the on-train announcements.
So, instead of announcing that "This is the Elizabeth line train to Shenfield" (ie: the 'one and only' train!!) ... the message is "This is an Elizabeth line train to Shenfield"
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Post by pbin on Jun 14, 2024 20:39:06 GMT
They have actually / finally changed the on-train announcements. So, instead of announcing that "This is the Elizabeth line train to Shenfield" (ie: the 'one and only' train!!) ... the message is "This is an Elizabeth line train to Shenfield" The announcements also say “line” at the end of a line now. For example, “Change for the Central line, Jubilee line”, instead of “Change for the Central, Jubilee”. Not sure if this was a recent change but it is something I’ve only noticed recently.
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Post by Chris W on Jun 14, 2024 21:02:08 GMT
Another 10 x Cl.345 units ordered today as per...
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Post by melikepie on Jun 16, 2024 11:25:23 GMT
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Post by rincew1nd on Jun 25, 2024 11:19:59 GMT
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Post by jimbo on Jul 2, 2024 21:22:19 GMT
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Post by Chris L on Jul 11, 2024 5:30:23 GMT
They have actually / finally changed the on-train announcements. So, instead of announcing that "This is the Elizabeth line train to Shenfield" (ie: the 'one and only' train!!) ... the message is "This is an Elizabeth line train to Shenfield" An announcement is now played as you arrive at Woolwich telling those with heavy luggage, pushchairs and bicycles to use the lifts. There is only one.
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Post by ijmad on Jul 11, 2024 11:24:51 GMT
Why only Woolwich? Surely this applies to all Elizabeth Line stations. Have they been having a specific problem there?
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Post by Chris L on Jul 11, 2024 12:00:49 GMT
Why only Woolwich? Surely this applies to all Elizabeth Line stations. Have they been having a specific problem there? Most of the other new stations have more than one lift. Woolwich is having capacity problems with platforms not clearing before the next train arrives. Ideally it should have had an additional entrance/exit at the eastern end of the station.
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Post by spsmiler on Jul 11, 2024 14:04:34 GMT
The other entrance / exit was scrapped to save money, although there 'might' be an emergency fire escape there - if so then this could also perhaps be seen as passive provision for an additional entrance / exit at a future date 'if required'.
In the meantime, how long will it be before the station starts being closed due to 'overcrowding'?
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Post by jimbo on Jul 11, 2024 20:34:01 GMT
Wasn't Woolwich station a late addition to the planned route, dependent on private capital investment? Perhaps that is why costs were reduced by only providing a single ticket hall.
Maybe that is the way forward also. Further development of the area could be made dependent upon funding for another ticket hall.
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Post by starlight73 on Jul 11, 2024 22:08:12 GMT
Why only Woolwich? Surely this applies to all Elizabeth Line stations I think a similar announcement is played at Paddington. (I can’t remember what it is now but I remember the voice emphasising, for your safety, please use the lifts provided!)Edit - there is in fact a tower block development being planned on the other entrance at Woolwich, which for now is just a fire escape. Doesn’t seem to be plans to fit this out into a station entrance. Jimbo is right that there wasn’t going to be a station here originally ( according to Jago Hazzard)
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Post by ijmad on Jul 12, 2024 10:15:12 GMT
The one that surprises me is Whitechapel, given it's a major interchange, having a bank of three escalators to the Elizabeth Line for passengers interchanging to/from both the Overground and SSR seems woeful, especially as there is interchange in both directions and that means a single escalator in one direction when both directions are busy. I have been through the station a couple of times at rush hour and anecdotally it doesn't feel like enough, especially if the Elizabeth Line might have a frequency uplift in the not too distant future. Though I don't know whether a second entrance at the other end of the Elizabeth Line platforms would even be useful for Whitechapel, given it'd be nowhere near the SSR or Overground platforms so wouldn't help with interchange at all. I am reminded of this article from some years ago, "I’m very worried that Crossrail doesn’t have enough escalators". It seems like the stations are 'saved' from overcrowding issues by their cavernous platforms which could hold thousands of people in a crunch, I guess this makes it safter than, say, the Victoria Line at Victoria where you need to get people off the platforms as quickly as possible. Though it's still not ideal having to slowly trudge towards the escalator.
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Post by Chris M on Jul 12, 2024 11:53:30 GMT
I used Whitechapel early in the evening rush hour the other day, and the escalators (and lifts) were busy but coping. The issue was being able to board a train towards Abbey Wood. The train arrived already crush loaded and fewer people wanted to alight than board. There were more people wanting to board the Abbey Wood train I squeezed onto than there were left on the platform position waiting for the Shenfield train following (at least at the rear of the train).
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Post by goldenarrow on Jul 12, 2024 19:30:53 GMT
Of the several descopes that fell by the wayside, my money is on Whitechapel being one of the first to be revisited once train frequency has been maxed out. The crowd control tape at the bottom of the escalators between the totems is practically a permanent fixture there now. With service increases on both the Tube and Overground coming in the near future on top of what is already planned for the EL, traffic will only climb one way.
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Post by Chris L on Jul 12, 2024 21:16:14 GMT
I used Whitechapel early in the evening rush hour the other day, and the escalators (and lifts) were busy but coping. The issue was being able to board a train towards Abbey Wood. The train arrived already crush loaded and fewer people wanted to alight than board. There were more people wanting to board the Abbey Wood train I squeezed onto than there were left on the platform position waiting for the Shenfield train following (at least at the rear of the train). It seems most Abbey Wood trains originate from Heathrow and the lack of proper luggage space means that seats are often blocked by large suitcases. There are often groups travelling together with the branch offering hotels. Small cases fit under the seats but nothing has been done to inform passengers.
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Post by spsmiler on Jul 12, 2024 22:24:40 GMT
Whitechapel today had two up and one down, which I suppose is good for clearing the platforms.
What will happen when escalators become life-expired and need replacing?
So yes, another bank of escalators is needed.
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