Elizabeth Line (CrossRail) opened 24th May 2022

Waterloo & City is Mon-Fri only
Romford-Upminster is a daily service

Welcome to The World Of CBTC (Act 2; the first act was in another similar post).

I can remember wanting to use this service on a Sunday and to my dismay finding that it does not run on Sundays.

Obviously it has escaped my notice that the service now runs on Sundays.

I've not been through Stratford at all this week and therefore have no idea whether the situation has improved.

I might not travel through there again until the day of the Class 315 railtour (Saturday week).

Romford to Upminster frequently doesn't run on Sundays when there are engineering works on the Elizabeth Line eastern section - the 710 needs to use it to get to Romford.


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Thank you. I have reported the incident.


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Something I have found extremely difficult to do is film the scrolling route diagrams which show the stations and interchanges on the passenger information displays above the passenger doors at the Underground stations.

I have to set the camera to under-expose by 1 f-stop but it still does not come out properly

This example shows what I mean



Also, I do not remember who said this but I agree that the thin white 'strikeout' line through the names of stations being non-stopped is barely visible. In fact I only even realised that the line was there because I read about it here at DD!


A red X over the station name would be far clearer.

That may be deliberate, your eyes/brain can 'lock on' to things scrolling at different speeds and concentrate on each piece of information one at a time. They use the same effect on multi-line stock tickers (such as the one in Times Square) and on some of the news channels which have multiple scrolling bands of information at the bottom of the screen.


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I find that to be a very annoying sign. There's more than just two scrolling sections... it's so busy it's untrue!

Is there any reason the audio announcements in the core for the approaching train doesn't include stations called at?

In regards to trains not transitioning. So far this week when I've arrived at Liv St Mainline (on the scheduled 08:15 arrival) there has always been a CL345 in the platform which I can only assume had been diverted in, what's odd is that both times they've been on the board as Shenfield trains so I assume they wait at Liv St until they would normally be due back into Stratford? The scheduled arrivals into Liv St Mainline always run empty to depot.

I can't remember where, but I have read that trains are being kept in the platform at Liverpool Street HL as a hot spare. Before through running these would typically stand by at Gas Factory Junction.
Whether that is what you are seeing I don't know, but it's not impossible - although if they have a scheduled departure time this feels less likely.

Current 345s diagrams are freely available on the web.

3 diagrams have booked workings into Liverpool St GE - as it is called in the diagrams - beyond advertised passenger service.

Using times here of non passenger work - one is 08:38 to 17:35 another 09:21 to 17:52 - both these have a couple of assorted class 5 (ECS) trips out and back to Gidea Park et al (may be training trips ?) but otherwise are idle at LST. Guessing, if not required for training they simply berth ?

A third diagram is one to berth there 16:02 to 19:16.

All of those have some other passenger work before and after that I have not listed.

I can't find any diagram that is an obvious standby unit at LST : that is not to say there is not one, simply if one exists, I can't find it.

I've been surprised by how busy Custom House is particularly at lunchtimes. Shopping trips to the West End are now much easier.

Obviously it get much busier when there are events at ExCel.

At about 1030 this morning got the EL from Stratford to Whitechapel; only a couple of seats free in the cars. At Whitechapel, noticed the lack of the country end exit which was deleted early on for cost reasons. That trek does not make for a good passenger experience at Whitechapel!

Limehouse and West Ham get a lot of traffic off-peak too.