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Post by silenthunter on Apr 13, 2022 18:53:24 GMT
You'd want to give it a couple of weeks to bed in.
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Post by rincew1nd on Apr 13, 2022 19:13:56 GMT
Isn't that what's happening now?
Trains running empty back and forth to make sure everything works, the only thing missing is the passengers.
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Post by silenthunter on Apr 13, 2022 19:24:54 GMT
Passengers can be woefully unpredictable.
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 13, 2022 19:58:03 GMT
Isn't that what's happening now? Trains running empty back and forth to make sure everything works, the only thing missing is the passengers. yes but why would anyone want passengers? the service will be much more reliable without them messing things up, causing delays, etc - let the trains just carry fresh air and perhaps the occasional ghost! I am not speculating on the opening day, feel too jaded and concerned that an economic downturn will take the shine off the celebrations when it does actually start carrying fare-paying passengers.
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Post by jimbo on Apr 13, 2022 20:04:27 GMT
Rather a poor April Fool, I thought. April fools are supposed to be things that are quite daft, often starting reasonably and getting dafter and dafter, so the readers eventually realise that they have been 'had'. Even forewarned, there didn't seem to be anything particularly unbelievable in that post. I'm sure there will be night services at some point. The tunnels are bi-directional and I witnessed trains running wrong way whilst working at Liverpool Street when only one tunnel was completed. The display screens above the doors were showing alternate Paddington and Abbey Wood trains. Perhaps that signage is suitable for emergency wrong-direction moves, but there looks to be plenty of fixed signage panels which clearly show the eastbound and westbound platform directions.
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Post by rsdworker on Apr 13, 2022 20:56:20 GMT
in copehagen metro there is single tracking in area or line so dont need for signages to change however the screens will show the trains = its very commonly used for single tracking
it can be DLR or London undergound which can do single tracking in rare form if required
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Post by Dstock7080 on Apr 25, 2022 7:15:07 GMT
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Post by rapidtransitman on Apr 25, 2022 13:18:58 GMT
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Post by silenthunter on Apr 25, 2022 20:06:07 GMT
Mile End has Elizabeth Line signs present on the diagrams now.
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Post by Chris L on Apr 26, 2022 20:21:12 GMT
The DLR areas at Woolwich Arsenal station have new signing with Elizabeth line featuring.
The roundels outside Woolwich station are still plain white.
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Post by goldenarrow on Apr 28, 2022 12:27:09 GMT
Application of stickers, vinyls and updated Car Line Diagrams are now happening en-masse across the network. In addition to this, station frontages such as Farringdon (Integrated Ticket Hall) and Paddington (Crossrail) have had appendages applied to their ‘banner’ signs to further distinguish themselves.
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Post by Chris L on Apr 28, 2022 19:33:17 GMT
Links Signs another family firm also makes Tube signs. Based in St Leonards they made many of the door and supplementary signs for the project.
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 28, 2022 19:36:25 GMT
I've seen a magazine on sale at W H Smiths which celebrates the Elizabeth line and the most recent issue of Modern Railways magazine includes a free booklet about the Elizabeth line.
What at I do not know is whether the free booklet is essentially a cut-down version of the paid-for magazine.
It would be nice if H M The Queen performed the opening ceremony of the railway which bears her name, in person.
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Post by silenthunter on Apr 28, 2022 20:55:41 GMT
I've seen a magazine on sale at W H Smiths which celebrates the Elizabeth line and the most recent issue of Modern Railways magazine includes a free booklet about the Elizabeth line. What at I do not know is whether the free booklet is essentially a cut-down version of the paid-for magazine. It would be nice if H M The Queen performed the opening ceremony of the railway which bears her name, in person. They will probably try that, but it's going to be very much dependent on her health. Prince Charles may well be sent instead.
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Post by Chris L on Apr 29, 2022 5:32:07 GMT
I've seen a magazine on sale at W H Smiths which celebrates the Elizabeth line and the most recent issue of Modern Railways magazine includes a free booklet about the Elizabeth line. What at I do not know is whether the free booklet is essentially a cut-down version of the paid-for magazine. It would be nice if H M The Queen performed the opening ceremony of the railway which bears her name, in person. They will probably try that, but it's going to be very much dependent on her health. Prince Charles may well be sent instead. Any ceremony would be for the whole line.
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Post by Deep Level on Apr 29, 2022 10:35:11 GMT
I've noticed that the on-train announcements have reverted back to saying 'This is the train to' rather than 'This is a TfL Rail service to', I wonder if they'll include the Elizabeth Line in the future to help distinguish from GWR and HEX services for new users. Also took this today:
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Post by t697 on Apr 29, 2022 10:49:46 GMT
AFAIK instructions remain that LUL train audio/visual interchange announcements will only be updated to include Elizabeth line from after the start of Elizabeth line revenue service. Looks like the Central might have to do it twice because of Bond Street!
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Post by jimbo on Apr 29, 2022 11:07:57 GMT
Good photo showing the four interchange points for the 'Elizabeth line', but not for the 'Victoria line' etc, only for 'Victoria' etc! Is such inconsistency an error?
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Post by Chris L on Apr 29, 2022 12:20:37 GMT
Good photo showing the four interchange points for the 'Elizabeth line', but not for the 'Victoria line' etc, only for 'Victoria' etc! Is such inconsistency an error? Shows why it should have stayed as Crossrail. Adding line To Metropolitan and Hammersmith & City would cause fit problems.
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Post by quex on Apr 29, 2022 12:41:39 GMT
Doesn't help that it follows TfL's grammatically-dubious convention of using lower-case 'l' for 'line', rather than a capital. Something about seeing it in small type on a car line diagram makes it worse than it does on signage.
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Post by t697 on Apr 29, 2022 13:11:52 GMT
Doesn't help that it follows TfL's grammatically-dubious convention of using lower-case 'l' for 'line', rather than a capital. Something about seeing it in small type on a car line diagram makes it worse than it does on signage. I think there are others who would say it's not dubious! But there's room for both opinions. I wonder whether the Vic was shown as Victoria line when new and later just Victoria when everyone got used to it. The other subtlety is that the Elizabeth line is not LUL although the naming has followed the same convention.
I realised the Jubilee is also tricky for the announcements, having Stratford at TfL Rail to Elizabeth line name transfer but Bond Street EL opening later.
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Post by goldenarrow on Apr 29, 2022 13:30:02 GMT
The posts above have perfectly encapsulated the can of worms in having a ‘line’ that is simultaneously the mode and the sub-group presents. As was no doubt discussed on here when the renaming first came to light, it’s inherently inconsistent.
Class 345 test trains I’ve been on show ‘Elizabeth’ on the service status and interchange screens and yet updated LU/LO/DLR line diagrams state ‘Elizabeth line’ both of which are *technically* correct. I know lots had been made about the distinct individuality that the Crossrail project has been afforded. Not sure that excuses creating an abomination of existing design standards.
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Post by xtmw on Apr 29, 2022 19:41:53 GMT
Change here for the Central and Elizabeth Line lines
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 29, 2022 23:32:40 GMT
Doesn't help that it follows TfL's grammatically-dubious convention of using lower-case 'l' for 'line', rather than a capital. Something about seeing it in small type on a car line diagram makes it worse than it does on signage. On my website I originally used the word Line with a capital L but a year or so ago went through the site changing the uppercase L to a lower case l.
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 29, 2022 23:34:56 GMT
I've noticed that the on-train announcements have reverted back to saying 'This is the train to' rather than 'This is a TfL Rail service to', I wonder if they'll include the Elizabeth Line in the future to help distinguish from GWR and HEX services for new users. Also took this today: I was on a Central Line / line (sic) train today and only saw 'TfL Rail' labels.
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Post by Chris M on Apr 30, 2022 0:16:04 GMT
I was on a Central Line / line (sic) train today and only saw 'TfL Rail' labels. It always takes a while to update all the in-car maps. I have an extremely vague memory of this being discussed on this forum a few years ago but I can't immediately find the old thread. I think it was stated that it typically takes 1-2 weeks for a fleet the size of the Central line, but occasionally trains get missed (I think it was someone seeing such a train that sparked that old thread).
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Post by jimbo on Apr 30, 2022 1:16:20 GMT
I've noticed that the on-train announcements have reverted back to saying 'This is the train to' rather than 'This is a TfL Rail service to', I wonder if they'll include the Elizabeth Line in the future to help distinguish from GWR and HEX services for new users. Also took this today: Could this prompt a passenger from the east to avoid delays by cross-platform interchange at Stratford for a quick trip to TCRoad? Will be misleading until through services commence!
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Post by Deep Level on Apr 30, 2022 9:34:18 GMT
I've noticed that the on-train announcements have reverted back to saying 'This is the train to' rather than 'This is a TfL Rail service to', I wonder if they'll include the Elizabeth Line in the future to help distinguish from GWR and HEX services for new users. Also took this today: Could this prompt a passenger from the east to avoid delays by cross-platform interchange at Stratford for a quick trip to TCRoad? Will be misleading until through services commence! I wouldn't have thought so, you could say the same for the Jubilee Line from Stratford to Bond Street but any sensible person would check the tube map before making a decision to change trains.
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Post by xtmw on Apr 30, 2022 9:54:21 GMT
I was on a Central Line / line (sic) train today and only saw 'TfL Rail' labels. It always takes a while to update all the in-car maps. I have an extremely vague memory of this being discussed on this forum a few years ago but I can't immediately find the old thread. I think it was stated that it typically takes 1-2 weeks for a fleet the size of the Central line, but occasionally trains get missed (I think it was someone seeing such a train that sparked that old thread). You are correct - there are still one or two units which have the old Olympic in car diagram (Marble Arch station being an example, having a pink square above it with it referencing it is near to Hyde Park)
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Post by Deep Level on Apr 30, 2022 10:28:23 GMT
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