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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2021 14:38:15 GMT
Thank you Chris.
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Post by revupminster on Aug 23, 2021 19:06:03 GMT
Whitechapel had two separate entrances at one time an East London Railway and the District Railway, way back the two entrances had one closed and that one became a retail shop.. Am I right in saying the Costa coffee shop used to be one of the two entrances ? 50/ 50 chance of having called it right ?  whitechapel by Robert, on Flickr The entrance was next to the East London Line station. When the District was extended over the East London line a footbridge was added over the tracks to the platforms. The picture in post by Golden Arrow above yours shows the original District line entrance on the left hand side. Whitechapel was a series of up and down steps and stairways. |
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Post by jimini on Aug 23, 2021 19:57:09 GMT
If anyone is in the area can you take a photo of the lift map so I can figure out my route through the station please. IanVisits has captured an image of this on his blog hereHTH. -Jim. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2021 21:44:44 GMT
Looks easy enough. They’ve messed up with the lift map, G is labelled as F on the map.
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Post by DWS on Aug 24, 2021 13:13:28 GMT
Whitechapel had two separate entrances at one time an East London Railway and the District Railway, way back the two entrances had one closed and that one became a retail shop.. Am I right in saying the Costa coffee shop used to be one of the two entrances ? 50/ 50 chance of having called it right ? Just found my copy of the book East London Line by V Mitchell & K Smith with a photo of Whitechapel Station , (LT Museum ) photograph is dated 1896 the MDR station on the left ( Whitechapel and Mile End opened opened 1884 )This is now the Costa Coffee c2021. To the right was the East London Railway station opened April 1876.. The next photo shows the station at a latter date when the East London entrance also was the entrance to the District Line. The station was now just Whitechapel the sign was up on the brick work at roof top level. The sign above the entrance said East London.Tilbury & Southend & District Railways. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Aug 24, 2021 13:49:05 GMT
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Post by revupminster on Aug 25, 2021 5:29:01 GMT
Having worked at Whitechapel the station is unrecognizable. The steps down to the old ticket hall. The ticket office on the left, I was an apprentice there, nine months with the chief clerk, and was one of the few stations that did left luggage. We had some fry ups in that ticket office as the cooking facilities and sink were behind the rear ticket racks. It was one room. The station masters office was immediately opposite. The staff toilets were somewhere in the passage between the booking hall and district platforms.
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Post by silenthunter on Aug 25, 2021 20:23:46 GMT
The ticket office frontage ended up at North Weald, didn't it?
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Post by goldenarrow on Aug 26, 2021 13:24:19 GMT
Southall joins the completed tranche of TFL Rail West station rebuilds today with the commissioning of it's ticket hall and associated station infrastructure. The station is of course well known in railway nomenclature for it's bilingual signage from the Thames Trains era which has been updated in the Johnston typeface both at platform and street level. Hayes & Harlington will round off the heavily delayed West London stations in the coming weeks. Installation of platform roundels on TFL Rail West also appears to have picked up pace of late. West Ealing, Southall, Iver, Langley, Burnham and Taplow now all have them with preparatory works also ongoing at numerous other stations. Click here if tweet fails to load |
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Post by coldplayfan18 on Sept 11, 2021 15:34:31 GMT
Does anyone have any updates on Ilford Station. Will the main entrance on Cranbrook Road reopen soon?
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Post by vincenture on Sept 11, 2021 16:47:16 GMT
I remember seeing a target of 2022 for Ilford and Romford...
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Post by spsmiler on Sept 11, 2021 20:27:17 GMT
Does anyone have any updates on Ilford Station. Will the main entrance on Cranbrook Road reopen soon? That would be an astonishment. I walked past it yesterday, from the street it looks like very little is happening. Certainly none of the glass wall frontage has been installed. But it did look like the lift shafts for platform 1 and platforms 4 / 5* are currently under construction. The lift shaft for platforms 2 / 3 has been there for a while, alas carefully located so as to block the closest stairway between the street entrance and the platform used by London-bound trains. Whilst there is another stairway it is a distance along the platform and since passengers using the passageway to this other stairway will have plenty of time (ie: more time than they had when using the now blocked-off stairway) to see if a train is at the platform one can guarantee that more passengers than before will run down the stairs in the hope of reaching the train in time to catch it. *Although the track has been removed from platform 5 it still exists, as a disused entity. As an aside, but still related to Ilford station and Crossrail / Elizabeth line, it seems that the staffed ticket offices were recently equipped with new ticket machines and these do not work with Oyster cards. In other words in an act of disjointed thinking TfL's own smart card ticketing solution has been withdrawn from the staffed ticket offices. I'm told that the same applies to London Overground stations. Self service ticket vending machines still retain Oyster functionality - as does the POPs tobacconist retail shop next to Ilford station (in days gone by I often bought Travelcard tickets here as there was rarely a queue to be served - unlike the station ticket office). |
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Post by goldenarrow on Sept 12, 2021 12:37:24 GMT
Does anyone have any updates on Ilford Station. Will the main entrance on Cranbrook Road reopen soon? Late 2021 for Ilford and early 2022 for Romford. As is the case with most of the TFL Rail rebuilds, the sites are heavily constrained by their surroundings and limited work windows in certain areas owing to proximity to operational infrastructure. |
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Post by Chris L on Sept 12, 2021 17:12:45 GMT
Does anyone have any updates on Ilford Station. Will the main entrance on Cranbrook Road reopen soon? Late 2021 for Ilford and early 2022 for Romford. As is the case with most of the TFL Rail rebuilds, the sites are heavily constrained by their surroundings and limited work windows in certain areas owing to proximity to operational infrastructure. This work is by Network Rail not TfL Rail. |
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Post by goldenarrow on Sept 14, 2021 11:27:08 GMT
Hayes & Harlington completes the half-dozen set of heavily delayed TFL Rail West station rebuilds by Network Rail today (14 September) with the opening it's new ticket hall, lifts and integrated overbridge. Refurbishment works at Taplow which included the enlargement of the existing ticket hall to incorporate a gateline have also finished. Works of a similar nature are in the early stages at Burnham scheduled for completion in the New Year. Click here if tweet fails to appear |
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Post by spsmiler on Sept 18, 2021 13:24:23 GMT
Late 2021 for Ilford and early 2022 for Romford. As is the case with most of the TFL Rail rebuilds, the sites are heavily constrained by their surroundings and limited work windows in certain areas owing to proximity to operational infrastructure. This work is by Network Rail not TfL Rail. Yes me - see tweet, below. Photos taken Friday 17th, from a message on a Google group I gather that the glass was delivered on Thursday. |
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Post by aslefshrugged on Sept 18, 2021 16:21:51 GMT
This work isn't by Network Rail or TfL rail, all NR did was award contracts to various private sector infrastructure companies.
I believe Costain did the initial work on stations along the "North East Spur" (Maryland - Shenfield) with VolkerFitzpatrick given the final part of the upgrade at Ilford and Romford stations.
Pedantic, moi?
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Post by Chris L on Sept 18, 2021 20:44:58 GMT
This work isn't by Network Rail or TfL rail, all NR did was award contracts to various private sector infrastructure companies. I believe Costain did the initial work on stations along the "North East Spur" (Maryland - Shenfield) with VolkerFitzpatrick given the final part of the upgrade at Ilford and Romford stations. Pedantic, moi? OK Network Rail commissioned the work. Laing O'Rourke did the work at Maryland, Manor Park and Seven Kings. I should know I worked on all three stations. |
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Post by miff on Sept 20, 2021 9:34:22 GMT
This work isn't by Network Rail or TfL rail, all NR did was award contracts to various private sector infrastructure companies. I believe Costain did the initial work on stations along the "North East Spur" (Maryland - Shenfield) with VolkerFitzpatrick given the final part of the upgrade at Ilford and Romford stations. Pedantic, moi? Not forgetting Atkins, who designed it. I expect history may record the new station was built by Network Rail, or maybe Crossrail, just as the original station was 'built' by the Eastern Counties Railway though probably few remember who their contractors were. |
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Post by rincew1nd on Sept 23, 2021 12:16:22 GMT
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Post by jimbo on Sept 24, 2021 4:27:36 GMT
A good indication of the scale of this project to provide a new cross-London railway. Any one of these stations is a major project in its own right! |
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Post by spsmiler on Sept 24, 2021 13:36:55 GMT
Work progressing at Ilford - see tweet below
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Post by goldenarrow on Oct 1, 2021 18:00:19 GMT
The integration of Abbey Wood (Crossrail) into the rest of the already operational station has taken place. The tweet below also contains a photo of the somewhat concealed low-level ticket hall giving direct access from Crossrail to Felixstowe Road.
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Post by spsmiler on Oct 10, 2021 11:50:55 GMT
More from Ilford - Friday 8th October 2021
btw, I suspect that they are putting up brackets of some sort. My photos include showing one of the men using a drill, at some stage whilst watching them at work I saw one of them using that 'most important' of all tools - a hammer!
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Post by rincew1nd on Nov 18, 2021 7:31:56 GMT
It appears from ianvisits that trial operations are about to begin: |
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Post by goldenarrow on Nov 20, 2021 15:32:38 GMT
Sure enough, Trial Operations commenced on Saturday 20 November. It’s worth noting that this period has been split into two halves with Phase 1 dealing with the comparatively simpler test cycles. After the completion of several critical works to address systems and rolling stock reliability, Phase 2 is planned get under way in January 2022. Click here if tweet fails to appear |
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Post by coldplayfan18 on Nov 29, 2021 21:27:00 GMT
Very promising!!
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Post by Chris L on Nov 29, 2021 21:34:59 GMT
Interesting that Bond Street is catching up. Canary Wharf handover by the end of the year.
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Post by brigham on Nov 30, 2021 9:06:31 GMT
The purple roundels have created yet another separate identity on London's transport network.
I wonder if this will ease confusion, or create it?
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Post by Chris W on Nov 30, 2021 19:18:03 GMT
The purple roundels have created yet another separate identity on London's transport network. I wonder if this will ease confusion, or create it? TBF there's only four Roundels - Underground [Red/Blue]
- Overground [Orange/Red]
- TfL Rail [Blue]
- Elizabeth Line/Crossrail [Purple/Blue]
The shape may be the same, but they all represent different services and TfL Rail will disappear once the Elizabeth Line fully opens, so IMO it's not that complicated unless someone is completely new to London railway network...
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