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Post by Chris L on Aug 7, 2020 16:50:26 GMT
Unit 104 spent a lot of Wednesday stabled at Paddington.
Still not without problems.
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Post by jimbo on Aug 9, 2020 3:30:21 GMT
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Post by Chris L on Aug 9, 2020 5:12:00 GMT
Unit 104 is 9 car and was the one reported as working to and from Heathrow.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Aug 9, 2020 10:34:54 GMT
Unit 104 is 9 car and was the one reported as working to and from Heathrow. 345.004 operated the first 9-car passenger train to Heathrow.
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Post by silenthunter on Aug 9, 2020 10:48:11 GMT
There's not even 104 345 units.
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Post by Chris L on Aug 9, 2020 12:03:53 GMT
There's not even 104 345 units. Apologies copied from another source. It was, of course, 004.
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Post by rincew1nd on Aug 21, 2020 12:32:23 GMT
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Post by bassmike on Aug 21, 2020 19:11:50 GMT
Time to kill H S 2 quick before anymore disasters-financial f---k-ups - lack of purpose and before it's too late. For god's sake get real and use the money for something useful like the N H S
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Post by John Tuthill on Aug 21, 2020 19:14:23 GMT
Time to kill H S 2 quick before anymore disasters-financial f---k-ups - lack of purpose and before it's too late. For god's sake get real and use the money for something useful like the N H S Since when has a money grabbing politician ever listened to common sense?
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Post by rincew1nd on Aug 21, 2020 19:45:09 GMT
Without wishing to delve into politics, the spending for HS2 can't simply be diverted into the NHS. HS2 is borrowing which will be repaid in actual money, NHS spending is repaid in longer lives.
Anyway this is a thread about Crossrail.
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Post by spsmiler on Aug 22, 2020 10:04:19 GMT
Crossrail = I despair!
This is not only because of the negative effects on local businesses which had planned for it to be open 'ages ago', nor the negative effect this will have on requests for finance for Cross rail 2, but also because it is messing up so many other services - we know about Network Rail wanting to remodel Liverpool St Station and lengthen some platforms to make them compatible with 9 car Class 345 trains, use the freed-up platform capacity to add extra services from other destinations - etc...
Maybe though it will be possible to divert some (peak hour) services to the new subterranean platforms at Liverpool St. and Paddington even before the full tunnelled route opens?
Earlier this week I was at Hanwell and filmed both 7 and 9 car Class 345 trains passing through non-stop. My footage is a bit rickety at first as I only just about got my camcorder out of my pocket 'in time'.
I suppose that seeing both train lengths in action does represent progress, of sorts!
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Post by Chris M on Aug 22, 2020 10:25:08 GMT
Reversing trains at Liverpool Street low level has been discussed in detail multiple times previously (likely in this very thread) and its not a viable long-term solution as the infrastructure makes doing so really inconvenient.
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Post by Chris L on Aug 22, 2020 17:51:58 GMT
Crossrail = I despair! This is not only because of the negative effects on local businesses which had planned for it to be open 'ages ago', nor the negative effect this will have on requests for finance for Cross rail 2, but also because it is messing up so many other services - we know about Network Rail wanting to remodel Liverpool St Station and lengthen some platforms to make them compatible with 9 car Class 345 trains, use the freed-up platform capacity to add extra services from other destinations - etc... Maybe though it will be possible to divert some (peak hour) services to the new subterranean platforms at Liverpool St. and Paddington even before the full tunnelled route opens? Earlier this week I was at Hanwell and filmed both 7 and 9 car Class 345 trains passing through non-stop. My footage is a bit rickety at first as I only just about got my camcorder out of my pocket 'in time'. I suppose that seeing both train lengths in action does represent progress, of sorts! Getting the 9 car trains into Heathrow T5 is a major achievement.
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Post by countryman on Aug 22, 2020 19:15:42 GMT
Which will open first? Elizabeth Line or Berlin Brandenburg Airport.
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Post by class411 on Aug 23, 2020 12:58:31 GMT
Which will open first? Elizabeth Line or Berlin Brandenburg Airport. Probably the Los Angeles Summer Olympics.
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Post by revupminster on Aug 23, 2020 13:27:16 GMT
It's a classic case of government and the private sector. The civil servants setting specifications do not have the expertise to oversee what's happening on the ground. For the private sector they can spin out a job longer and get more money; four extra years of work and payments in this case. No private company would allow another private company to get away with it.
Whenever private companies do work on the underground they spin it out. Ticket Office rebuilding for the underground ticketing system in my day took far longer to do each station than predicted. Penalty clauses mean nothing.
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Post by bassmike on Aug 23, 2020 13:36:16 GMT
If you employ monkeys then you get inferior peanuts.
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Post by revupminster on Aug 23, 2020 19:23:20 GMT
If you employ monkeys then you get inferior peanuts. I don't think the electricians were on peanuts when Crossrail and Spurs were competing for their services. To be fair when the car mechanic at quickfit tells you this or that needs replacing, your tyres are illegal you have to accept it.
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Post by Tom on Aug 23, 2020 20:42:56 GMT
I don't think the electricians were on peanuts when Crossrail and Spurs were competing for their services. Indeed, but it's always interesting how certain elements of goverment always complain about public sector projects costing more than the original estimate as a result of 'market forces' affecting a group of people with a particular skill set. The aforementioned elements of Government are usually strong believers in the role of the private sector and champions of the free market. interestingly, in my own experience it isn't so much the skilled staff who try and spin a job out; it's usually the project management, particularly when you get a group of consultant project managers in who have built a reputation as being problem solvers. The problem (no pun intended) is that they tend to try and find (or create) more problems for them to solve to make themselves look good and ensure future work. When the car mechanic at KwikFit told me my tyres needed replacing I questioned it and they confirmed that the tyres weren't illegal. I decided to wait for the MOT advisory which never came. The car did, however, fail on brakes, which was somewhat ironic as the reason I'd taken it to KwikFit was for their offer of a free brake check. I would never trust KwikFit again.
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Post by spsmiler on Aug 23, 2020 21:21:03 GMT
Which will open first? Elizabeth Line or Berlin Brandenburg Airport. Probably the Los Angeles Summer Olympics. None of them. It will be Prince George ascending to the throne, after his father's very long spell as our Monarch.
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Post by roythebus on Aug 24, 2020 22:46:06 GMT
My sister-in-law and her daughter seem to be sitting pretty with their jobs on Crossrail, one as a line controller the other as a driver. Paid to do very ittle for years.
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Post by revupminster on Aug 25, 2020 6:31:18 GMT
I think we can say goodbye to Crossrail 2 and other extensions as jobs do not return to London and government plans to level up (probably down) the regions by moving jobs out of London.
Lest we forget the DLR would have failed if not for the private developers of Canary Wharf. The Royal Docks never generated the jobs it was supposed to. The East London River Crossing and Blackwall Crossing (both road) have never been built.
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Post by Chris L on Aug 25, 2020 6:38:20 GMT
I think we can say goodbye to Crossrail 2 and other extensions as jobs do not return to London and government plans to level up (probably down) the regions by moving jobs out of London. Lest we forget the DLR would have failed if not for the private developers of Canary Wharf. The Royal Docks never generated the jobs it was supposed to. The East London River Crossing and Blackwall Crossing (both road) have never been built. Without Crossrail 2 there will be pressure to spend money on step free access to the stations. The additional Blackwall Tunnels are under construction.
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Post by revupminster on Aug 25, 2020 9:33:18 GMT
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Post by Chris L on Aug 25, 2020 17:41:22 GMT
Two new tunnels which will have bus/lorry nearside lanes.
They will emerge east of the existing tunnels and connect with the Canning Town flyover.
All tunnels will be tolled.
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Post by spsmiler on Aug 25, 2020 20:35:37 GMT
Two new tunnels which will have bus/lorry nearside lanes. They will emerge east of the existing tunnels and connect with the Canning Town flyover. All tunnels will be tolled. I'd rather they just built one new bore - to replace the original tunnel which is totally unsuited to present-day traffic, which could then be dedicated to cyclists and pedestrians.
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Post by rincew1nd on Aug 25, 2020 23:50:05 GMT
Either way, back to railways please
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Post by aslefshrugged on Aug 26, 2020 10:18:02 GMT
I think we can say goodbye to Crossrail 2 and other extensions as jobs do not return to London and government plans to level up (probably down) the regions by moving jobs out of London. Lest we forget the DLR would have failed if not for the private developers of Canary Wharf. The Royal Docks never generated the jobs it was supposed to. The East London River Crossing and Blackwall Crossing (both road) have never been built. The London Docklands Development Corporation only built the DLR because of Credit Suisse's project to redevelop Canary Wharf (later sold to Olympia & York) and they needed transport links ready for when it opened. If Canary Wharf hadn't been redeveloped the DLR would never have been built. The extension to the Royal Docks wasn't added until 1994. Meanwhile I just heard an advert on LBC for Papermill House, a housing development by Galliard Homes (prices from £195k) which cheerily announced that it was "13 minute walk to Romford Station where from next year Crossrail will have you in the City in just 27 minutes". Whoops...
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Post by aslefshrugged on Aug 26, 2020 10:26:21 GMT
My sister-in-law and her daughter seem to be sitting pretty with their jobs on Crossrail, one as a line controller the other as a driver. Paid to do very little for years. Aren't the drivers working out of Paddington or Liverpool Street?
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Post by norbitonflyer on Aug 26, 2020 16:33:31 GMT
If Canary Wharf hadn't been redeveloped the DLR would never have been built. . It was the Jubilee Extension that was fu7nded by the developers of Canary Wharf. The DLR was planned and construction started before O&Y started on the Wharf.
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