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Post by Dstock7080 on Sept 24, 2016 14:09:45 GMT
The withdrawal list has got messed up somehow, about halfway down. all sorted now, after an update error early this morning using an iPhone. |
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Post by superteacher on Sept 24, 2016 18:09:09 GMT
Horrendous delays on the District due to signal failure at Plaistow.
Train 3 reformed into 21
Train 60 reformed into 23
Saw train 10 but 14 was elusive!
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Post by decaded on Sept 25, 2016 1:07:25 GMT
Cause was a cable fault that caused signals on the W/B Plaistow/West Ham to fail along with all T.D.transmission codes and numerous track circuits in the area. Traction current had to be discharged for an hour or so whilst the said cable,the length of the platform + under-track, was replaced....(i was told when I got in for my late turn at Whitechapel). At one point we had a continuous line of trains from South Ken back to Bromley...and at the same time about 6 trains on the E/B ,same area !Some trains in excess of 80m late and timetable shot to pieces....Night man took me off and it was just coming back together after dozens of reforms and short trips. Horrendous day !
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Post by superteacher on Sept 25, 2016 8:44:50 GMT
Was also made worse because they tried to reverse trains off the eastbound at Whitechapel, but couldn't get the points to move! So they had to do the move via the main line east of the station. Shame that Mansion House was only available as a reversing point for 4 trains, as that would have helped to ease the congestion.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 9:17:02 GMT
What time was the cable replaced? Was still a lot of stop/starting heading west at around 1800, didn't see a single D stock on my trip from Hornchurch to Blackfriars yesterday. I did however notice the West Ham siding being used, I guess the fault was also stopping this being used as a reversing point given it's right next to Plaistow?
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Post by John Tuthill on Sept 25, 2016 11:32:41 GMT
Cause was a cable fault that caused signals on the W/B Plaistow/West Ham to fail along with all T.D.transmission codes and numerous track circuits in the area. Traction current had to be discharged for an hour or so whilst the said cable,the length of the platform + under-track, was replaced....(i was told when I got in for my late turn at Whitechapel). At one point we had a continuous line of trains from South Ken back to Bromley...and at the same time about 6 trains on the E/B ,same area !Some trains in excess of 80m late and timetable shot to pieces....Night man took me off and it was just coming back together after dozens of reforms and short trips. Horrendous day ! I've never hear that before. Can you explain to an ignoramus like me why?  |
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Post by domh245 on Sept 25, 2016 11:40:09 GMT
Cause was a cable fault that caused signals on the W/B Plaistow/West Ham to fail along with all T.D.transmission codes and numerous track circuits in the area. Traction current had to be discharged for an hour or so whilst the said cable,the length of the platform + under-track, was replaced....(i was told when I got in for my late turn at Whitechapel). At one point we had a continuous line of trains from South Ken back to Bromley...and at the same time about 6 trains on the E/B ,same area !Some trains in excess of 80m late and timetable shot to pieces....Night man took me off and it was just coming back together after dozens of reforms and short trips. Horrendous day ! I've never hear that before. Can you explain to an ignoramus like me why? I would guess because you've got staff on the track doing the work? |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Sept 25, 2016 11:41:50 GMT
What time was the cable replaced? Replaced and tested around 16.00. Sun 25/9 EBWY-Upm T4 7512+7037 Wim-BKG T46 7016+7527. |
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Post by superteacher on Sept 25, 2016 11:59:35 GMT
What time was the cable replaced? Replaced and tested around 16.00. Sun 25/9 EBWY-Upm T4 7512+7037 Wim-BKG T46 7016+7527. I fear it won't be long before D stock disappear from the weekends altogether. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 14:07:41 GMT
Was also made worse because they tried to reverse trains off the eastbound at Whitechapel, but couldn't get the points to move! So they had to do the move via the main line east of the station. Shame that Mansion House was only available as a reversing point for 4 trains, as that would have helped to ease the congestion. Caused by blown fuse on lock circuit for 45 lever, fault why it blew unknown. If the site was not just left in King all day then this would of been picked up before the original fault at Plaistow without causing a delay. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 14:17:21 GMT
Cause was a cable fault that caused signals on the W/B Plaistow/West Ham to fail along with all T.D.transmission codes and numerous track circuits in the area. Traction current had to be discharged for an hour or so whilst the said cable,the length of the platform + under-track, was replaced....(i was told when I got in for my late turn at Whitechapel). At one point we had a continuous line of trains from South Ken back to Bromley...and at the same time about 6 trains on the E/B ,same area !Some trains in excess of 80m late and timetable shot to pieces....Night man took me off and it was just coming back together after dozens of reforms and short trips. Horrendous day ! The fault was a blown fuse in FC2 red light circuit which also feeds a few other circuits which thus causes FC1 and FC2 to fail and CF track Thats not strictly true yes there was a cable fault but only effecting 1 track CF and the TD problem is down to a faulty cable at Dagenham East unrelated to this fault. The time it took was down to the fact the relevant protection needs to put in place once the service manager agrees once all the trains have been removed from the area. The cable itself goes via 3 boxes and through the platform at Plaistow. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Sept 26, 2016 7:01:20 GMT
a nice procession westbound through the City around 0710 this morning: T4 T5 T101 T6 T102 almost consecutive!
Mon 26/9
Rmd-UPM T4 7032+7057, T5 7512+7037 , T6 7012+7095.
Wim-Bkg T65 7016+7527.
AM T101 7018+7533, T102 7030+7535, T125 7034+7007.
7 out of 10
(4 out off-peak)
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Post by superteacher on Sept 26, 2016 11:33:06 GMT
Are the other units which are listed as being "out of use" (7046+7503, 7070+7115) being returned to service?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2016 19:11:10 GMT
Was there any reason why they didn't go via Northwood?
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Post by twobellstogo on Sept 28, 2016 20:15:17 GMT
Not strictly relevant, but I note that 7508 is the 'chosen one' to represent the D78 at Acton. I would have almost put money on Olympic 7007 being the choice, which shows how much I know...
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Post by norbitonflyer on Sept 29, 2016 6:25:08 GMT
7508, being a double ender, can operate on its own. 7007 can only operate as part of a six car train.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Sept 29, 2016 6:51:23 GMT
Not strictly relevant, but I note that 7508 is the 'chosen one' to represent the D78 at Acton. I would have almost put money on Olympic 7007 being the choice, which shows how much I know... I wouldn't call car 7508 'the chosen one' yet, it's just remaining in the Museum until decisions are made. 7508, being a double ender, can operate on its own. 7007 can only operate as part of a six car train. Car 7508 can't work on its own, it would need two other cars a compressor trailer and either UNDM or DM cars. |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Sept 29, 2016 8:04:02 GMT
Car 7508 can't work on its own, it would need two other cars a compressor trailer and either UNDM or DM cars. My misunderstanding - I had assumed it was the whole of unit 7508 that was being discussed, not just the DM. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Sept 29, 2016 8:45:52 GMT
Are the other units which are listed as being "out of use" (7046+7503, 7070+7115) being returned to service? 7046+7503 re-entered service today, awaiting restarting of routine maintenance |
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Post by superteacher on Oct 3, 2016 17:48:19 GMT
No withdrawal this week then? Are the remaining trains the "chosen 10" which will act as extra cover for unavailable S7's?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 3, 2016 20:29:59 GMT
No withdrawal this week then? Are the remaining trains the "chosen 10" which will act as extra cover for unavailable S7's? That is the plan for "the foreseeable future" - 2017 here we come! |
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Post by superteacher on Oct 3, 2016 20:45:54 GMT
No withdrawal this week then? Are the remaining trains the "chosen 10" which will act as extra cover for unavailable S7's? That is the plan for "the foreseeable future" - 2017 here we come! I'm assuming they won't want to rack up too many miles in them though. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 21:25:19 GMT
Bring back the Olympia service that would keep the miles down
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Post by superteacher on Oct 5, 2016 21:05:37 GMT
What has the D stock usage been like this week?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2016 22:21:29 GMT
I saw 3 in the space of 5mins today
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Post by zcap on Oct 7, 2016 8:40:55 GMT
7012 as part of T56 was empty/out of service at Aldgate East when I passed it around 8:55 this morning. Any clues why?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 7, 2016 9:03:27 GMT
7012 as part of T56 was empty/out of service at Aldgate East when I passed it around 8:55 this morning. Any clues why? T56 7012+7095 withdrawn from service Gloucester Road, defective doors 8012. Fri 7/10 (morning service) Rmd-Upm T1 7512+7037, T5 7530+7075, T24 7046+7503. EBWY-Upm T26 7016+7527, T43 7018+7533. Wim-Bkg T63 7032+7057. AM T125 7030+7535 (performed last scheduled run into Mansion House pfm.2 at 06.16) Fri 7/10 (evening service after reform) Rmd-Upm T1 7512+7037, T7 7530+7075, T24 7046+7503 - (performed a run into Mansion House pfm.2 at 21.56). EBWY-Upm T26 7016+7527, T43 7018+7533. Wim-Bkg T63 7032+7057. AM T125 7030+7535. (performed last scheduled run into Mansion House pfm.2 at 06.16) 7115 7070 remain out-of-service ECom. the last run into Mansion House pfm.2 was actually S7 21405/06 at a.22.53 d.23.12. |
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Post by superteacher on Oct 10, 2016 21:35:27 GMT
7012 as part of T56 was empty/out of service at Aldgate East when I passed it around 8:55 this morning. Any clues why? T56 7012+7095 withdrawn from service Gloucester Road, defective doors 8012. Fri 7/10 (morning service) Rmd-Upm T1 7512+7037, T5 7530+7075, T24 7046+7503. EBWY-Upm T26 7016+7527, T43 7018+7533. Wim-Bkg T63 7032+7057. AM T125 7030+7535 (performed last scheduled run into Mansion House pfm.2 at 06.16) Fri 7/10 (evening service after reform) Rmd-Upm T1 7512+7037, T7 7530+7075, T24 7046+7503 - (performed a run into Mansion House pfm.2 at 21.56). EBWY-Upm T26 7016+7527, T43 7018+7533. Wim-Bkg T63 7032+7057. AM T125 7030+7535. (performed last scheduled run into Mansion House pfm.2 at 06.16) 7115 7070 remain out-of-service ECom. the last run into Mansion House pfm.2 was actually S7 21405/06 at a.22.53 d.23.12. Why was an S7 run into the bay? |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Oct 11, 2016 6:59:44 GMT
the last run into Mansion House pfm.2 was actually S7 21405/06 at a.22.53 d.23.12. Why was an S7 run into the bay? The previous post mentioned disruption earlier in the day caused by a D78's doors failing. Recovering from such situations often involves unscheduled reversals at bay platforms like Mansion House (Tower Hill, Plaistow, Moorgate, Putney Bridge) to fill a gap on the westbound service, or given the lateness of the hour, to get it back to Ealing Common before close of service. As has been covered in other threads, some bays are/were not long enough to take an S7 in service (or at all), which is why they are now being removed. Presumably in this case the bay at Tower Hill was already in use by another train, so Mansion House was the only remaining option - running empty from, and back to, Blackfriars. Was this the one and only occasion an S7 used the bay there? |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 11, 2016 7:17:34 GMT
The S7 ran in service both into and out of Mansion House pfm.2.
I believe it was requested by the Operator of the train, as a sort of first & last! Tower Hill bay was free at the time.
Apart from very early engineering hours testing in 2012 i doubt any have gone in there.
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