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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2011 22:22:38 GMT
Yes, so it would seem. Watch...... I bet those two units will never go that fast again. The Gospel Oak-Barking service always seems deathly slow to me. The stations are not that close together but the train never gets any speed up in my experience. Basically 30 mph line speed Gospel Oak to South Tottenham, and 45 mph South Tottenham to Barking. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2011 22:24:04 GMT
Slow accelerations seems to be part of the DMU experience. I'm sure I'll experience this next Tuesday evening as I travel from Grimsby Town to Newark Northgate to meet my super fast East Coast train to Kings Cross The Class 185s can shift  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2011 22:25:55 GMT
It was pictured at Richmond. The big green railway runs to richmond- note 4th rail. 378s are fitted with tripcocks for this reason. Hence I came to the conclusion that one must have a tripcock to run to Richmond. Surely the 378s are fitted with tripcocks for interworking with the Bakerloo line 1972 stock, on the DC lines; so as to protect the little trains from the big ones.  The DC line has been fitted with tripcocks from the outset. Both the 501s and 313s also had tripcocks for similar reasons (although the 313s were fitted from new due to signaling arrangements on the Moorgate - Drayton Park line). In recent times which type of train do you think has been the most responsible for having SPADs on the shared section of line? |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jan 16, 2011 16:10:11 GMT
Slow accelerations seems to be part of the DMU experience. I'm sure I'll experience this next Tuesday evening as I travel from Grimsby Town to Newark Northgate to meet my super fast East Coast train to Kings Cross The Class 185s can shift But they work the Grimsby-Doncaster connections, not the Grimsby-Newark line. It was pictured at Richmond. The big green railway runs to richmond- note 4th rail. 378s are fitted with tripcocks for this reason. Hence I came to the conclusion that one must have a tripcock to run to Richmond. Thats not true actually, Many trains without tripcocks have run to Richmond D1015 (Western),Thumper, Class 37s on Test Trains,Class 66s on Sandite Also SWT's trains run over the 4th-Rail East Putney-Wimbledon section without tripcocks. As for the 172s, I read on another forum that their bogie design does not allow fitting of tripcocks, and for this reason Chiltern's shiny new units will not be allowed on the LT-owned section between Harrow and Amersham, but will be confined to the High Wycombe route. (This is I think the only place where scheduled NR passenger trains run over tracks signalled to LT standards, rather than vice versa) (Do Chiltern's 168s ever stray onto the Amersham line?) |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2011 16:55:41 GMT
(Do Chiltern's 168s ever stray onto the Amersham line?) They are at this very moment. Because of engineering work the Birminghams are diverted via Aylesbury and the Met. All Chiltern 165s and 168s are fitted with tripcocks. I'm not sure about service trains but Clubmans run ecs to Aylesbury from Marylebone for servicing. Andy |
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Post by suncloud on Jan 23, 2011 0:30:16 GMT
(Do Chiltern's 168s ever stray onto the Amersham line?) They are at this very moment. Because of engineering work the Birminghams are diverted via Aylesbury and the Met. All Chiltern 165s and 168s are fitted with tripcocks. I'm not sure about service trains but Clubmans run ecs to Aylesbury from Marylebone for servicing. Andy I have seen, and been on them, in service between Amersham and Great Missenden on normal service. ISTR one morning journey ex-london would usually be formed by 168. Would be consistent with a train that spent the inter-peak at Aylesbury. Also would occasionally see empty stock movements and diverted services. Chiltern using 172s on the lines would decrease route flexibility in times of disruption. Although with the Met resignalling, would the Chiltern services remain tripcock? Or would new protection arrangements apply that would also enable 172s to operate? |
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Post by Chris M on Jan 23, 2011 1:15:28 GMT
Although with the Met resignalling, would the Chiltern services remain tripcock? Or would new protection arrangements apply that would also enable 172s to operate? I was wondering about this. When the stock was ordered the resignalling was going to happen a lot sooner than it is now, so the benefits of being tripcock fitted (and the disbenefits not being so) would presumably been relevant to a much shorter timescale. If so then they would have been less likely to outweigh the benefits of the chosen bogie design. |
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The DC line has been fitted with tripcocks from the outset.
