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Post by metman on May 17, 2023 21:20:44 GMT
I believe the siding was added in about 1935 and was indeed added mainly for the Metropolitan’s use. There were quite a few Rayners Lane starters in the peaks many of which ran to Aldgate. These were traditionally formed of 1904-13 saloon stock but later were used with O/P stock. There were even some Q38 stock trains on the Met in the early years of the war which operated through to Barking.
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Post by metman on May 17, 2023 21:17:11 GMT
I would imagine a bright white would fade and look very dirty quite quickly. I remember the 1959 stock Northern Line trains got a refresh in the 1990s receiving light cream panels and draught screens. They looked awful extremely quickly.
Regarding the door buttons, you might be surprised at the cost considering the number involved. I expect they are not a priority in these austere times for TFL.
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Post by metman on May 6, 2023 21:46:44 GMT
I can’t imagine the cost of repeating the work carried out at Euston and Angel.
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Post by metman on May 3, 2023 17:49:14 GMT
No not yet. They have couple of holes in the lugs so will accept a hook and bar which is how I usually couple my stock.
The Bachmann couplings are quite fragile I’ve heard so won’t try and replicate them!
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Post by metman on May 1, 2023 12:58:00 GMT
Yes, that’s my friend! 😉
I really recommend these they have been very useful as they are an exact match for the EFE cars. All you have to do is get a 2mm drill bit and just open out the bearing holes, add a top hat bearing and fit a 10.5mm wheel set. Much easier than the Metromodels efforts!
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Post by metman on Apr 29, 2023 11:23:14 GMT
I picked up some 3D printed bogies a friend made and these really help.
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Post by metman on Apr 29, 2023 11:18:15 GMT
I expect the cab might be in tunnel or beyond the passenger accessible area at many platforms.
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Post by metman on Apr 21, 2023 20:37:42 GMT
I would expect that the 1938 trailers used with the 1960 stock already had the updated compressors.
I was unsure if the 1960 stock driving motors actually had the compressors and the pre-1938 stock trailers weren’t fitted with compressors? Perhaps someone can confirm?
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Post by metman on Apr 17, 2023 19:05:03 GMT
Just a gentle reminder to keep the politics out of it please….
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Post by metman on Apr 16, 2023 19:10:54 GMT
If you see the Bakerloo’s 1972 stock they are in terrible shape externally and look very unloved, probably for the same reasons as stated above.
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Post by metman on Apr 15, 2023 19:57:03 GMT
The KLL4s were a Swiss design which I think was used under tramcars. The idea was that they were small enough to fit under a tube stock car. All the previous tube stocks were fitted with larger (reliable) compressors behind the drivers cab.
Sadly, the technology wasn’t quite there yet as the conditions under a tube car were more arduous than under a tram. It took another 15 years for the technology to be proved so it would work sufficiently under the 1949 stock cars.
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Post by metman on Apr 15, 2023 16:05:33 GMT
I think the old KLL4 rotary compressors started to be replaced after the war with DHC2s (the 1949 stock and R stock had these) and then many got replaced in the 1970s with DHC5a (A60 stock) and Reavell TBC38Z (A62, C69, 1967/72mk1) compressors.
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Post by metman on Apr 15, 2023 15:45:30 GMT
Yes, all good points. Still dislike those tiny porthole type windows. I know the reason why but still looks rubbish to me!
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Post by metman on Apr 10, 2023 19:56:49 GMT
There was a rail tour on the East London Line with an E class L44 and Steam stock in the early 60s. I don’t believe the E class tanks ran in passenger service normally. The steam service ceased in 1906 and I think the Metropolitan service restarted with electric stock in 1913. I think the E class tended to be used on the extension line as it would have been the latest passenger loco of the time. I guess we will never know unless there are photos of the period. My guess is that the A class tanks were used.
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Post by metman on Apr 10, 2023 19:44:02 GMT
Is it really only 10% boost in capacity? It seems like walkthrough carriages would provide a bigger uplift than that, but maybe more as a result of people being able to evenly spread themselves between busier and quieter carriages as much as there being extra actual space. The lack of car ends it is assumed will naturally provide additional space by not being present however, if you look at the proposed design, those articulated sections between the cars are actually quite narrow. Also, the 1973 stock has vestibules at the car ends where the single leaf doors are. The new stock doesn’t have this so the wider saloon areas and know doubt reduced seating probably plays a role in this capacity. Of course, if the new signalling system was part of the upgrade the increase in capacity would be far greater.
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Post by metman on Apr 4, 2023 21:39:33 GMT
Do these trains still have 3rd rail pick ups? I wonder what modifications would be required considering all the old kit got removed?
Either way it’s great to see them running in revenue service.
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Post by metman on Mar 30, 2023 12:01:45 GMT
I think the naming of lines is unnecessary personally.
If you need to distinguish perhaps letters should be looked at?
Some services are more obvious than others. Where does the South London line end and the East London Line start? Where does the West London line end? What do you call the Enfield and Cheshunt route??
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Post by metman on Mar 29, 2023 18:52:01 GMT
I’m not sure about that day but I would suggest that when the Circle line is suspended it actually makes LUs operations far easier as all the conflicting junction movements are eliminated at High Street Ken, Gloucester Road, Minories and Aldgate junction.
Of course this doesn’t help the customer.
I had to go to High St Ken the other week and the service was up the spout! Even when it isn’t the Paddington to High St section seems the poor relation.
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Post by metman on Mar 28, 2023 12:40:24 GMT
Yes I agree it’s probably spare from a 1972 Mk1 or 1967 stock car. Plenty of spares were kept after the Victoria Line fleet replacement doors and all.
The ex mk1 saloon doors were changed several years ago to be top hung so the door seals on the curved glass were added then.
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Post by metman on Mar 25, 2023 19:49:02 GMT
No you’re correct the Met didn’t have battery locos but the 1938 machines did use parts of withdrawn Met stock - hence the 7’ Fox type bogies on this loco. Similar locos L41-43 were also provided with Metadyne equipment removed from Met Saloon Stock which was scrapped after concluded trials that formed the basis of the O and P stock.
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Post by metman on Mar 23, 2023 20:01:42 GMT
Still with its old Metropolitan Railway bogies!
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Post by metman on Mar 23, 2023 19:54:19 GMT
Yes I think you’re right. The early steam coaches were quite short and rigid wheelers so a reasonable number might have fitted into the platform.
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Post by metman on Mar 17, 2023 12:53:48 GMT
Just preordered mine!
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Post by metman on Mar 17, 2023 12:48:52 GMT
Yes the 1949 stock was built after the war but most of the 1938 stock was build before and during the war and introduced during and after war which was a difficult time.
The 1949 stock was basically a 1959 stock with different bogies. The door tops were flat and latching (no leather adjustment strap!)
The bogies were noticeable with the bay window missing and the suspension coil visible. The UNDM also had beamless shoegear like the R stock until about 1960.
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Post by metman on Mar 13, 2023 21:48:37 GMT
It’s quite a common smell on the network or it used to be. The previous A stock always had that smell when the Westinghouse brake was used and was quite a common smell at Moor Park as trains can brake quite late off a fast run.
Lorry brakes have a similar smell if used on a hard brake.
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Post by metman on Mar 13, 2023 21:32:22 GMT
There were no 1959/62 UNDMs! What is the abbreviation for trailer motor cars? Just NDM? It is unfortunate that EFE decided to use the term motor trailer for the non-driving motor car.
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Post by metman on Mar 11, 2023 22:59:27 GMT
Glad you were finally successful. I plan to convert a 1959/62 non driving motor into a 1949 uncoupling non driving motor for my 1938 stock set. The square door tops are ideal to reflect the 1949 cars.
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Post by metman on Mar 10, 2023 20:28:34 GMT
Were four car trains of 1992 being seriously considered at this time to keep the Ongar service going?
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Post by metman on Mar 10, 2023 20:23:05 GMT
This is interesting and I had not really noticed it before. On the diagram it appears quite short, was this the case?
I wondered if it was a loco spur or uncoupling point?
How long was this bay, does anyone remember it?
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Post by metman on Mar 7, 2023 14:57:35 GMT
I have my A5 now and I’m not very impressed with it! The mechanism seems very rocky and bobs about a great deal.
Has anyone else had this trouble? I’ll carry on trying to run it in but I think it might need to be returned….
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