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Post by Chris M on Feb 19, 2023 0:44:51 GMT
On Twitter it has been asked whether there is a definitive list of "working tube stock outside London": ( click here if it fails to load) I've not been able to find a definitive list, but I figure this forum is the best place to ask. I'm expanding the question slightly to include stock in London as chances are that will help someone else down the line. Off the top of my head I can think of: LT Museum's 1938 stock 1959 stock on the Alderney Railway 1962 stock sandite train + the ex-Cravens train recently purchased as spares Met No.1 steam loco on (iirc) the Bluebell Railway. Class 484s (former D stock) on the Isle of Wight Class 230s (former D stock) on the Marston Vale line (albeit currently not in operation) Class 230s that will (hopefully) shortly be operating for TfW on the Borderlands line Class 230s that will operate on the Greenford branch line if testing goes well There may be others I've forgotten |
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Post by d7666 on Feb 19, 2023 1:04:19 GMT
exD78 exVivarail 230002 is in USA still I think; not sure it is actually "working" but must have been in "working order" when it did recent demos there. Funny this question came up as I was looking at the Sentinels recently. DL83 on the Nene Valley is in working order (indeed I think I have seen some advance publicity somewhere has operating dates in 2023 that triggered me looking); DL82 at Great Eastern railway listed 2019 in working order; not sure that it actually works anything; DL81 despite what wikidribble says, www.heritage-railways.com/locosdb/locosdb.phpcan't find it by searching for DL81 or 10278 works number. There are the ex GWR ex LT panniers too although is ex BR stock out of scope ? When you think about the size scale and scope of LT & co. there is precious little stock repurposed or preserved in working order. Perhaps it shows the limitations of what are, to a heritage railway, /almost/ all non standard air braked vehicles difficult to work in their 'normal' operations. |
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Post by jimbo on Feb 19, 2023 3:29:48 GMT
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Post by spsmiler on Feb 20, 2023 14:22:30 GMT
Not exactly tube trains but the former Met Railway passenger coaches at various locations - Bluebell railway and Vintage carriage trust.
These are 'working' in as much as they can (and sometimes do) carry passengers
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Post by Dstock7080 on Feb 20, 2023 17:56:44 GMT
Not exactly tube trains but the former Met Railway passenger coaches at various locations - Bluebell railway and Vintage carriage trust. These are 'working' in as much as they can (and sometimes do) carry passengers Those are contained in the LURS document kindly linked by jimbo in the post immediately above |
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Post by d7666 on Feb 20, 2023 19:02:11 GMT
Not exactly tube trains but the former Met Railway passenger coaches at various locations - Bluebell railway and Vintage carriage trust. These are 'working' in as much as they can (and sometimes do) carry passengers Those are contained in the LURS document kindly linked by jimbo in the post immediately above Extremely useful document, but does the data have a date please ? There is no date within the document, the date 03|10|22 in the file name title can be read as a publication date of the pdf file, not a date of the data content, and might not align. Useful to have a data reference date to keep track of changes. Suppose this will start an argument over definitions of ownership / transfer / date of withdrawal, but I'd have included Waterloo & City Bo loco 75 / 75S / Ds75 too. And if the Sentinel diesels get to be there, why not the Panniers ? Both types were bought second hand to LT/LU , both sold on. |
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Post by jimbo on Feb 20, 2023 19:11:45 GMT
In October 2022 issue of Underground News. Document accessed from link |
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Post by metroland on Feb 23, 2023 16:36:24 GMT
There's also the class 483/1938 stock at Llanelli and Mynydd Mawr Railway, not working yet. When I spoke to them last year they were hoping to get one set hauled in 2023 by some complicated means, and the other set battery operated as a longer term project. www.llanellirailway.co.uk/dmu-emu-coaching-stockedit: just realised these are covered in jimbo's 19Feb post, but there are recent pics on the railway website I just posted (scroll down) |
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Post by d7666 on Mar 21, 2023 1:34:07 GMT
Does battery loco L35 not exist any more ? It is not in the list. I have never been to Acton museum myself but seen past images of it there. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 21, 2023 6:04:09 GMT
Does battery loco L35 not exist any more ? It is not in the list. "for preservation" April 1992. |
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Post by DWS on Mar 21, 2023 6:33:23 GMT
There's also the class 483/1938 stock at Llanelli and Mynydd Mawr Railway, not working yet. When I spoke to them last year they were hoping to get one set hauled in 2023 by some complicated means, and the other set battery operated as a longer term project. What do you mean hauled by some complicated means ? The channel island of Alderney has a railway with a two car set of 1959 tube stock moved up and down the short line by a 0-4-0 Diesel Locomotive. |
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Post by metroland on Mar 21, 2023 13:55:14 GMT
There's also the class 483/1938 stock at Llanelli and Mynydd Mawr Railway, not working yet. When I spoke to them last year they were hoping to get one set hauled in 2023 by some complicated means, and the other set battery operated as a longer term project. What do you mean hauled by some complicated means ? The channel island of Alderney has a railway with a two car set of 1959 tube stock moved up and down the short line by a 0-4-0 Diesel Locomotive. I forget the exact details (poss due to the locos available at LMMR and their capabilities) but he was talking in terms of some kind of converter wagon and associated pipework being needed between Class 08 and the 1938 stock |
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Post by d7666 on Mar 21, 2023 17:16:59 GMT
Does battery loco L35 not exist any more ? It is not in the list. "for preservation" April 1992. So, does it still exist ? |
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Post by miff on Mar 21, 2023 19:15:39 GMT
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Post by metman on Mar 23, 2023 20:01:42 GMT
Still with its old Metropolitan Railway bogies!
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Post by DWS on Mar 24, 2023 22:14:21 GMT
L35 is a London Transport locomotive, built in 1938. The Metropolitan Railway never had battery locomotives, the MET Rly came under the London Transport umbrella in 1933.
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Post by metman on Mar 25, 2023 19:49:02 GMT
No you’re correct the Met didn’t have battery locos but the 1938 machines did use parts of withdrawn Met stock - hence the 7’ Fox type bogies on this loco. Similar locos L41-43 were also provided with Metadyne equipment removed from Met Saloon Stock which was scrapped after concluded trials that formed the basis of the O and P stock.
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