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Post by bicbasher on Jan 19, 2011 12:19:48 GMT
Hearing rumours that the extension will open even earlier than expected. Monday 14th February.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2011 17:11:41 GMT
A 'stakeholders' trip is being organised for 17th February. It's possible the public will be allowed to travel from the 18th, but more likely a few days after in order to complete driver training and a few minor finishing touches.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2011 17:26:21 GMT
CORRECTION!! It might even be open to the public on the afternoon of the 17th. The stakeholder trip is at 12.30. Just checked and the testing and training is going very very well!
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Post by bicbasher on Jan 21, 2011 21:04:36 GMT
Thanks for the information Tim. Even the 17th (Thursday) is better than expected!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2011 21:31:57 GMT
February 19th is shaping up a great day for sightseeing on the Overground: 1) new extension open (hopefully) 2) due to engineering works Watford service is diverted to Stratford via Primrose Hill
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Post by rincew1nd on Jan 21, 2011 23:15:54 GMT
February 19th is shaping up a great day for sightseeing on the Overground: 1) new extension open (hopefully) 2) due to engineering works Watford service is diverted to Stratford via Primrose Hill Seeing as I can't do Acton in March, tickets booked ;D
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2011 20:16:52 GMT
Spotted two test trains at Canonbury station this afternoon about one hour apart. They were both heading for Dalston Junction and stopped briefly at Canonbury.
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Post by mcmaddog on Feb 2, 2011 9:45:52 GMT
I'm guessing something is happening on the PA system. Last night and this morning trains were being announced as the "xx.xx London Overground service to <blank!> calling at Honor Oak Park, Brokley ... Hoxton, Haggerston and <blank!>" like Dalston Junction no longer exists!
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Post by alex92ts on Feb 2, 2011 15:59:36 GMT
Looks like i'll be planning a trip for the 19th, which is one of the rare times i'm free! This time I can just go to Walthamstow and get the Victoria to H&I. Much easier than terminating at Dalston as it does now. Passenger numbers will certainly increase when this extension opens.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2011 17:29:37 GMT
Any update to the opening date for the ELL H&I Extension
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2011 20:45:28 GMT
No update yet. Hopefully should have a clearer view after Wednesday. It's still very possible that we may open on the 17th. Things are going VERY well. But as ever, 'watch this space'.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2011 22:49:50 GMT
Just signed off the route today and the platforms at both Canonbury and H&I look more or less complete. The trains don't seem to be giving any problems and the signalling works! It will make my commute to and from work a lot easier as I only live round the corner!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2011 7:41:26 GMT
Just signed off the route today and the platforms at both Canonbury and H&I look more or less complete. The trains don't seem to be giving any problems and the signalling works! It will make my commute to and from work a lot easier as I only live round the corner! Good! I'm so bored with the old tube map. I'm really looking forward to enjoying a new one... for about a week then I'll be bored of that one too.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2011 13:16:20 GMT
Good! I'm so bored with the old tube map. I'm really looking forward to enjoying a new one... for about a week then I'll be bored of that one too. Are they going to show the ELL running parallel to the NLL or ruin it by making it look as if they share tracks I wonder? Are there any previews available? I also saw a few maps from Shadwell station (it may have been before service started) with the Clapham Junction extension south of Surrey Quays shown. In these it looks as if the New Cross Gate section diverges from the Clapham section. Isn't this wrong? I thought the Clapham section diverged from the trunk before either of the New Cross branches. Pedantic I know but irritating!
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Post by slugabed on Feb 8, 2011 18:46:33 GMT
Pedantic but accurate!! The Clapham Jct route diverges just South of Surrey Docks station.........where,to my mind,the Northbound line from New Cross Gate should also have rejoined the main route rather than building that flyover. That's the price you pay for short-termism,I suppose....if they had apporoved and financed the whole scheme at once it would've cost less....
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Post by norbitonflyer on Feb 8, 2011 19:20:16 GMT
pedantic but accurate!.... The layout at Earls Court isn't represented very accurately on the tube map either - it would seem Olympia - Gloucester Rd and HSK to West Ken moves are impossible! But it does show waht through services are available, which is probably more important.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2011 13:51:03 GMT
The Clapham Jct route diverges just South of Surrey Docks station.........where,to my mind,the Northbound line from New Cross Gate should also have rejoined the main route rather than building that flyover. I'm confused. By 'that flyover', do you mean the diveunder just south of Surrey Quays to give grade separation for south/westbound CJ trains, or the bridge by New Cross Gate station? (I'm unfamiliar with the latter as, despite living in New Cross for quite a while, have only been over it once. I always got the train/Overground from NWX rather than NXG.)
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Post by slugabed on Feb 9, 2011 17:07:06 GMT
The Clapham Jct route diverges just South of Surrey Docks station.........where,to my mind,the Northbound line from New Cross Gate should also have rejoined the main route rather than building that flyover. I'm confused. By 'that flyover', do you mean the diveunder just south of Surrey Quays to give grade separation for south/westbound CJ trains, or the bridge by New Cross Gate station? The latter...as you leave New Cross Gate Northbound,after a few sidings,the ELL diverges to the left and flies over the Brighton lines. If you look at a (pre-1966) map of the area,a train making the same journey would have diverged left at roughly the same point,but carried on NWesterly to join the line which connects the SLL to the ELL. There is still a fragment of viaduct from this old alignment visible from trains North of New Cross Gate,used as offices for one of the yards off of Brocklehurst St. There you are!: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Cross_Gate_station....And see the "History" bit...
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Post by andypurk on Feb 9, 2011 19:43:13 GMT
I'm confused. By 'that flyover', do you mean the diveunder just south of Surrey Quays to give grade separation for south/westbound CJ trains, or the bridge by New Cross Gate station? The latter...as you leave New Cross Gate Northbound,after a few sidings,the ELL diverges to the left and flies over the Brighton lines. If you look at a (pre-1966) map of the area,a train making the same journey would have diverged left at roughly the same point,but carried on NWesterly to join the line which connects the SLL to the ELL. There is still a fragment of viaduct from this old alignment visible from trains North of New Cross Gate,used as offices for one of the yards off of Brocklehurst St. Unfortunately, a fair number of houses / flats have been built in the area and the trackbed is now blocked, so rebuilding this connection would have probably been a lot more expensive than the flyover.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2011 9:23:12 GMT
Looks like the extension to Highbury might not open on 17th February as the Mayor might want to perform the honours so its possible the public wont get to use it for a few more days - but as ever watch this space as things change by the hour!
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Post by phillw48 on Feb 10, 2011 9:38:55 GMT
Looks like the extension to Highbury might not open on 17th February as the Mayor might want to perform the honours so its possible the public wont get to use it for a few more days - but as ever watch this space as things change by the hour! I suppose he is still on holiday in Zanzibar. He very nearly did not make it back by all accounts, except in a box!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2011 11:01:30 GMT
Looks like the extension to Highbury might not open on 17th February as the Mayor might want to perform the honours so its possible the public wont get to use it for a few more days - but as ever watch this space as things change by the hour! Well a 'timetabled exercise' is scheduled for the 23rd/24th so I doubt it will open before then.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2011 12:42:21 GMT
I'd heard a rumour that Sunday 27 February might be the opening day. (This is also the last day of the week's-worth of closures for upgrading works on the NLL, before normality resumes on the 28th).
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Post by ducatisti on Feb 12, 2011 21:41:20 GMT
ah, this answer the question I was going post as to what the additional tracks running parallel to the LO lines as far as H&I was, and why they terminated there.
(Although, why there?)
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Post by causton on Feb 12, 2011 21:45:37 GMT
Probably for the interchange with the Victoria and FCC lines and because there probably isn't enough space/money/demand to duplicate further than that!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2011 22:26:02 GMT
Well initially the ELL was going to have two northern branches, one to Finsbury Park the other to Willesden Junction calling at all stations on the NLL.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2011 19:29:06 GMT
I asked a train driver at Dalston Junction on Sat eve (12th Feb) when the ELL H&I extension was going to open, and he told me Feb 27th. Seeing ELL test trains in both directions quite regularly while waiting for the NLL at Canonbury.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2011 16:27:03 GMT
27th is certainly the date I've been told, with the "official" opening on the 28th.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2011 20:58:21 GMT
Well initially the ELL was going to have two northern branches, one to Finsbury Park the other to Willesden Junction calling at all stations on the NLL. I assume a Finsbury Park extension would have been an extremely expensive venture. Would it have entailed a dive-under/over the NLL using the Graham Curve? Also, wouldn't the tracks have to be doubled all the way to Willesden to take care of the second suggestion or failing that, upgrades to all 378/1s up to dual volatge 378/2 standard? How would reversing at Willesden have worked in either case? Just curious! Sorry if this is veering off into Ideas territory Mods........
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Post by norbitonflyer on Feb 14, 2011 22:01:57 GMT
I assume a Finsbury Park extension would have been an extremely expensive venture. Would it have entailed a dive-under/over the NLL using the Graham Curve? ... The Graham Road curve is the connection between NLL and Liverpool Street lines in Hackney - I think you are referring to the Canonbury connection
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