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Post by Tom on Jul 2, 2011 23:17:22 GMT
3060 + 3061 are in use this weekend and possibly the last day pair as well (3059 + 3079). One other train remains, which I believe has already been split to allow it to shunt new 09TS units when they are delivered. 3060 + 3061 will transfer to Acton Works at start of traffic on Monday 04/07/2011, with one other train to follow later this month, leaving one whole train for use in Engineering Hours on the Victoria Line. Regards, Dan What sort of time will they be expected to leave Northumberland Park for transfer? The info I've heard is they'll arrive at Acton around 0500-0530.
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Post by trainopd78 on Jul 3, 2011 7:43:31 GMT
its only 1 train to Acton works Monday now. the 2nd train out the yard didn't fancy the trip out and wouldn't pick up codes so had to be substituted for the depot shunter which isn't trip cock fitted so cannot go to Acton. so 2 trains will remain on the vic. Not sure what. the plan is beyond that now.
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Post by br7mt on Jul 4, 2011 18:27:34 GMT
Unfortunately it was 60+61 that didn't pick up codes! Mind you, Acton Works was stuffed full of 67TS units when we turned up this morning.
Regards,
Dan
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Post by trc666 on Jul 4, 2011 21:22:04 GMT
Which units are still at Acton Works?
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Post by br7mt on Jul 4, 2011 21:40:49 GMT
3067 definitely: www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/gallery/image/29494-67ts-unit-3067/Also 40+41 newly arrived, car 3049 on the loading ramp, plus at least three other cars further down the same road towards the traverser. I think there were at least four other units there, possibly six, and four DM cars in the workshop that will be used for the new TCT MPUs. Also there were two cars of C (?) Stock, Acton Works Shunter (3202) and ex-Piccadilly Line 62TS unit 1691. Behind the latter were what looked like ex-Isle of Wight cars. Follow link above and scroll to the right for photos. Regards, Dan
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Post by astock5000 on Jul 4, 2011 23:14:06 GMT
Also there were two cars of C (?) Stock Looking at the photo of the C stock unit, the shoebeam on the inner end bogie of car 5595 is missing, and it looks like the L door on 6595 has also been removed, although it could just be open and hidden by part of the car. Has this unit been withdrawn already? It seems surprising if it has, unless it had a serious failure. Or could there be another reason why it is at Acton?
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Post by DWS on Jul 5, 2011 9:11:55 GMT
3067 definitely: www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/gallery/image/29494-67ts-unit-3067/Also 40+41 newly arrived, car 3049 on the loading ramp, plus at least three other cars further down the same road towards the traverser. I think there were at least four other units there, possibly six, and four DM cars in the workshop that will be used for the new TCT MPUs. Also there were two cars of C (?) Stock, Acton Works Shunter (3202) and ex-Piccadilly Line 62TS unit 1691. Behind the latter were what looked like ex-Isle of Wight cars. Follow link above and scroll to the right for photos. Regards, Dan What does TCT MPUs stand for ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2011 11:47:39 GMT
5595 is a long-term-stopper and is unlikely to run again. It was "stopped" on 21/8/09.
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Post by br7mt on Jul 5, 2011 21:05:38 GMT
Add 3078 to the list of units still in there.
TCT = Tunnel Cleaning Train MPU = Motive Power Unit
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Dan
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Post by antharro on Jul 5, 2011 21:10:03 GMT
Any plans to get that 62ts into preservation?
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Post by metman on Jul 5, 2011 21:20:13 GMT
Doubt it, I thought it had gone for scrap!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2011 21:35:09 GMT
Isnt that 72ts MK1 next to 3067 officially a Bakerloo spare?
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Post by br7mt on Jul 5, 2011 21:43:05 GMT
Isnt that 72ts MK1 next to 3067 officially a Bakerloo spare? I was told that it was going for scrap as part of the current 67TS disposal programme. Acton Works will get a 67TS 4-car unit to replace it, but I don't know which one. Like the Aldwych unit it is totally unrefurbished inside - wood floors etc. In other news 3059 + 3079 might be coming over to Acton Works on Thursday night vice 3060 + 3061. Regards, Dan
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Post by seaeagle on Jul 6, 2011 7:52:34 GMT
Was up at North Park depot yesterday, 60 & 61 units were on 19 road and 59 & 79 were on 44 road. Later in the evening 60 & 61 were on 22 road, all cars with notices on saying "This car is for reuse do not scrap".
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Post by br7mt on Jul 16, 2011 21:27:43 GMT
3059 and 3079 were delivered to Acton Works on Friday morning (15th July 2011). Nearly didn't make it as Test Train Operators were required to support a 24 car pushout on the Victoria Line to recover a 2009TS train to Northumberland Park.
Also noted at Acton Works were cars from 3084 (one already gone by the look of things), unit 3085 and A Stock unit 5110, which will be the next RAT conversion for the Metropolitan Line.
Regards,
Dan
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2011 21:31:11 GMT
24 cars - why 2 assisting trains pushing out, top and tailing isolated brakes on the middle?
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Post by br7mt on Jul 16, 2011 21:38:12 GMT
Yes, top and tailed. I understand the middle train developed a battery fault earlier in the week and was left in Brixton sidings until Bombardier staff could recover it. During that attempted fix another more serious fault was discovered which meant it had to be recovered between two other 2009TS trains.
Must have been quite a sight coming out of the portal at Northumberland Park!
Regards,
Dan
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2011 23:18:33 GMT
Reference the Victoria Line stock at Acton Works, the following nine complete units were there on Thursday morning 14/7/11 at around 10.15:
3186, 3182, 3067 3075, 3078, 3034, 3185, 3041, 3141.
Car 3034 was separated from the rest of its unit and was in the shops, as were cars 3007, 3107, 3022 and 3122.
They were, of course, joined by 3059 and 3079 Friday morning 15/7/11.
I have it that unit 3184 went to Eastleigh on 16/6/11 (3084) and 17/6/11 (4084, 4184 and 3184).
These notes, of course, exclude all the other "bits and pieces" of other stocks still at Acton.
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Post by trc666 on Jul 17, 2011 1:40:59 GMT
Any idea if the 67 at Eastleigh along with the A60 are visible from either the station or known vantage points?
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Post by br7mt on Jul 17, 2011 9:33:05 GMT
Well the link to the KRS blog post said they removed the last traverser in order to build siding space. maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ll=50.960255,-1.344371&spn=0.0027,0.006866&t=h&z=18 So Campbell Road would be your best bet, but I would imagine there are a lot of trees / bushes in the way. Regards, Dan
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2011 9:43:14 GMT
i was down at Eastleigh Tuesday 12th July and saw the following on the works 3084 4084 4184 3184 4076 3076 4176 also could see one more line of stock but was not able to see numbers
Returning home on M25 near Heathrow saw on a lowloader 3058 heading south
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Post by br7mt on Jul 17, 2011 11:00:52 GMT
Apologies - it must have been 3034 I saw on Friday, not 3084. I've got a rather oblique shot of the middle motor car where you can clearly see the '4' and unit 3085 was waiting behind it on the same back road...
Regards,
Dan
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Post by seaeagle on Jul 17, 2011 18:47:41 GMT
Yes, top and tailed. I understand the middle train developed a battery fault earlier in the week and was left in Brixton sidings until Bombardier staff could recover it. During that attempted fix another more serious fault was discovered which meant it had to be recovered between two other 2009TS trains. The train involed is T36 (11071/72), it was taken out of service on Monday because of over-running platforms, the wheel slip protection was activated a number of times, then the batteries went flat. When they tried to recover the train Wednesday morning, a diode in the powering up circuit blew.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2011 19:42:57 GMT
Was there no delay to the service, or was it moved at the extremes of the traffic day?
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Post by br7mt on Jul 19, 2011 18:44:22 GMT
Well the cat is well and truly out of the bag now - 3079 is not destined for scrap. The Trailer cars might be eventually, but the motor cars will have a future use in the AIT, hence todays stock move.
Regards,
Dan
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2011 18:51:44 GMT
What is AIT short for?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2011 18:52:28 GMT
Asset Inspection Train, intended as a replacement for the Track Recording Train...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2011 19:48:47 GMT
I visited Easteigh works yesterday (with a class 66 to collect some overhauled wagons) and was advised not to take any pictures of the 67TS as, apparently, someone had and had posted them on a website much to the annoyance of LT. The member of staff who coupled me to the wagons did say that the stock was there for storage and not scrap. IOW perchance?
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Post by jazza on Jul 19, 2011 21:24:06 GMT
Well the cat is well and truly out of the bag now - 3079 is not destined for scrap. The Trailer cars might be eventually, but the motor cars will have a future use in the AIT, hence todays stock move. Regards, Dan Is there any particular criteria that would mean that 3079 was selected for this role over any other unit? Or is it pure chance?
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Post by br7mt on Jul 19, 2011 21:50:23 GMT
The only criteria was that it had to be a double ended unit. We were originally getting 3060 but as that is now staying at Northumberland Park until the Autumn we switched to either 3059 or 3079. We chose that one because it is in better condition.
One of the neat things about the reform plan is that we don't need an ex-72TS car, as the middle cabs will only be used for shunting therefore don't need the deadman handle. That way the ex-72TS cars can be used solely for future engineers train purposes as leading cars.
Regards,
Dan
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