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Post by stapler on Apr 28, 2024 14:12:41 GMT
When this sort of thing happened before - eg the landslip on the incline out of Walthamstow C in ?1979, a shuttle was run between Chingford and W cent, to ensure connections with the Victoria Line. Nowadays not worth bothering? Longer term, another reason to re-lay the Hall Farm Curve....
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Post by stapler on Mar 29, 2024 13:09:12 GMT
I can understand where you are coming from with the window sizes, especially on the 2024 tube stock but the large windows on the 1992 tube stock certainly contributed to overheating in summer so this feature may improve this issue slightly. The large, curved windows were an irresistible canvas for morons with diamond cutters. But I agree they were good for sightseeing..
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Post by stapler on Mar 29, 2024 8:33:26 GMT
In early[-ish] railways (say pre 1865), level crossings were very common. The Leyton-Loughton line [the earliest bit of rail alignment currently on LU] was built in 1856; there were very few non-level crossings,as it did not cross any turnpike roads [bridge then necessary] north of Leyton, and in 1856 there was very, very, little road traffic, the gates were shut parallel with the railway across the road, with a gatekeeper's lodge at each to open on the approach of a few cattle.. These level crossings were eliminated in the 30s, to prepare for the Central line extension. (restoring them is FRIPAS indeed) Some followed Chris M's prescription 2, and some 3. Broadmead is a no.2, as is George Lane. 44ton lorries were undreamed of in 1939, and what is the increase in motor traffic since then, 1500%? There was no provision for bridge maintenance other than the rates of Essex County Council, who were the highway authority then. A relatively small unitary like Redbridge, created 1965, would have fewer resources especially nowadays, when borrowing £30m from the Public Works Loans Board might cripple their finances. So these bridges will be problematic for the decades ahead...
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Post by stapler on Mar 15, 2024 9:52:10 GMT
How long before some accountant (sorry, accountants!) realises, and some minister agrees, that patching up what will by then be 37-y-o trains, will be totally counterproductive? And what is the next catastrophe lurking round the corner to make the patching-up even more pointless?
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Post by stapler on Feb 19, 2024 8:20:53 GMT
Does this mean in normal service there wont be any trains terminating at Newbury Park, North Acton, Loughton or Northolt? Thanks This will lead to peak crush conditions Snaresbrook to Loughton....
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Post by stapler on Feb 8, 2024 16:07:03 GMT
The Leytonstone-Loughton-Epping line can hardly be described as a branch line; it's the main line of the Central. Reversing the LC conversions of 1937-40 would just not be on.
I gather one casualty of the Broadmead closure is May's Ride London, whose two-wheeled participants are being diverted via the neo-Taj- Mahals of Chigwell Village...
There is (according to the Evening Standard) a supplementary bus service running, calling at Epping, Loughton, and Chingford. Shades of 2003 when that motor fell off at Chancery Lane. I saw today in Loughton High Rd an old double-decker out of Palmers Green garage, very helpfully marked "Special Service", but otherwise bereft of user information; and yesterday an Ensignbus decker in Loughton Station yard. Anyone have details of this shadowy and ill-publicised operation?
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Post by stapler on Feb 4, 2024 11:03:01 GMT
It occurs to me the next one on the list might be the George Lane LC replacement bridge ("The Viaduct") with its curious quarter circle configuration. I do recollect some work being done on this c25 years ago - but does anyone know if it was seriously strengthened then? It certainly wasn't replaced.
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Post by stapler on Feb 3, 2024 16:45:05 GMT
With the 62s, you learned to kick the doors in rain....
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Post by stapler on Feb 3, 2024 16:41:17 GMT
That sounds like the old link line between Angel Road and Lower Edmonton (now Edmonton Green). The platform (known as Lower Edmonton (Low Level) was on what's now the traffic island outside Edmonton Green station, which was known as Lower Edmonton (High Level). The single line then rose to join the (main) line just north of Lower Edmonton (High Level). This was certainly no less that the original Eastern Counties Railway branch opened 1849 from Edmonton, later Angel Rd, to the Middx market town of Enfield. After the opening in 1872 of the GER Metropolitan Station and Railways Act cut-off via Seven Sisters and Clapton, it was somewhat eclipsed, and saw use till 1939 for workmen's trains, and later as a diversionary route. As a boy, I remember walking along it, by then not a rural idyll. but a litter-strewn defile between factories and industrial miscellany. Think it was taken up c1972
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Post by stapler on Jan 8, 2024 8:59:01 GMT
All the new bridges (of concrete construction) over the Central Line as built by the LNER to replace level crossings in 1938/40 seem suspect. Possibly just age. Broadmead Rd [replacing Snakes and Horn Lanes crossings] is only the latest (mid 2023. That at Theydon Bois over the B172, which replaced TB Station crossing, was discovered and remedied in the 90s, Investigations into the one at Woodford Jc, as the Loop leaves the main line, are ongoing by Essex CC, in whose territory it [just] falls. This one replaced Squirrels Lane LC] Maybe the faults do not imperil the actual railway. Doubtless LU civil engineers have been assured....
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Post by stapler on Sept 13, 2023 15:18:38 GMT
Yes, the so-called Mid-Essex Light Railway. But it never was to go anywhere near Chelmsford.
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Post by stapler on Sept 8, 2023 15:02:40 GMT
I can't believe Cunard or P&O cruise liners had 1d in the slot loos. But before the mods end this, I'd point out that the GER Ongar branch has excellent free w.c.s, except Loughton's, which are extremely smelly....
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Post by stapler on Aug 13, 2023 6:53:45 GMT
How is it "a very modern design"? Just looks like a sight tweak to a a mundane 30-yr-old one!
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Post by stapler on Aug 12, 2023 8:32:29 GMT
<<I have heard calls to split the Lea Valley Line, but I think it's more simple to keep them combined. >> I rather disagree. The Chingford Line has always been that, since 1873; the Lea Valley Line meant the line actually along the Lea to Cheshunt, and not the Chingford Line...
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Post by stapler on Aug 2, 2023 14:54:29 GMT
Life till the early 2040s? The Central won't even have got them by then....
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Post by stapler on Aug 2, 2023 14:50:51 GMT
The state of platforms 9/10 and 10A is nothing short of scandalous. They are a main rail entry point for Essex (Suffolk/Norfolk), and attract just as many passenger journeys thereto as LV terminus. The lack of w.c.s is also scandalous - and one Greater Anglia (whose loos are generally exemplary) must greatly regret. Management of this station should transfer to GA... Covering ramp -- and who is going to pay for that?
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Post by stapler on Jul 17, 2023 7:29:44 GMT
The yards were solely LNER/BR(E) property, and throughout the 50s were quite busy. Special LNE sundries, parcels, PLA etc stations were built at Woodford and Loughton. Every so often, a wagon label crops up on ebay from one of them, quite often Loughton to Nottingham.
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Post by stapler on Jul 3, 2023 6:37:05 GMT
When the W&C was transferred to LU, and the 92TS painted in that silly NSE livery put in commission, presumably Waterloo links 2.3 and 4 were retrained to drive it? Quite a lot of drivers...How and when did the idea of giving its operation to Leytonstone LU drivers arise? I always regretted the transfer, since the W&C was still operating as a useful NE-SW link when LT was on strike!
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Post by stapler on Jul 3, 2023 6:30:17 GMT
I always thought it was silly of LT, in the days of Harold Wilson metrication madness, to adopt Km, especially measured from 0.0 at tyhe Ongar buffer-stops!
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Post by stapler on Jun 24, 2023 20:13:19 GMT
Zbang, Gibsons *** were*** used in a small way by LT railways. The London end booking office at Buckhurst Hill had the; so did Roding Valley...
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Post by stapler on Jun 24, 2023 12:35:28 GMT
Not so scrunched as Grange Hill via Woodford was!
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Post by stapler on Jun 24, 2023 12:33:15 GMT
Certainly decreasing, Chris M....Ticket use is now very low, as opposed to Oyster-contactless. I have to buy a paper ticket once or twice a week from Loughton to Chelmsford. via Stratford. You can't do this by contactless, still less by Oyster. The serial numbers on the tickets (when you can read them, so badly do the machines ink) are seldom 100 apart - and 100 paper tickets a week is very low at a busy outer station like Loughton. I always pay by card anyway - and why have TFL kept the old technology requiring you to enter a PIN for a £30 transaction?
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Post by stapler on Jun 12, 2023 20:42:45 GMT
I think the 92TS is now more decrepit than the 62TS when the same age, And the 62s were due to be replaced when 31,32,33 years old, not to have to soldier on another ten or so years... There are actually two areas where the 92s are better - no brown ceiling from decades of smokers, and less graffiti damage. But the 62s had far more comfortable seats.
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Post by stapler on Apr 16, 2023 12:16:21 GMT
Don't forget the local orders introducing smokeless zones took about 15 years to complete, which included the conversion to natural gas. Smogs were still around in the early-mid 60s, but they were no longer quite so uniformly toxic as different areas went smokeless. Mr Khan wants to do it overnight. He could take a lesson from back then...
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Post by stapler on Apr 16, 2023 12:10:35 GMT
And happened in trumps through the 1980s...
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Post by stapler on Apr 15, 2023 17:16:09 GMT
. A valid point is made in that it might well cause some people to change their travel patterns. Isn't it designed to cause some people to change their travel patterns?
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Post by stapler on Apr 15, 2023 16:24:09 GMT
It won't be every station within the M25. Theydon Bois, Debden, Loughton, Buck Hill and the Loop will not be in the ULEZ. All of these, other than Debden and the Loop, are very stringently parking restricted, so I wouldn't think the nett effect on saturation will be very high. Chingford overground is also on the very edge of the ULEZ. Between the station and the Forest is outside the ULEZ, but the other side is within it...
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Post by stapler on Apr 13, 2023 13:06:08 GMT
Was the mooted late 1990s LOIS - the London-Ipswich multimodal study to follow a similar route as the mentioned in the 1944 Greater London Plan or did it differ significantly from the earlier scheme? I will try to find out, but memory tells me it was short on detail!
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Post by stapler on Mar 29, 2023 15:38:31 GMT
<<Would anyone really want to travel on 1992 stock (or the replacement) to and from the depths of Essex?>> Those of us from the heights of Essex (Epping-Theydon-Loughton-Buckhurst Hill) already have to. The discomforts of the stock are compensated for by the frequency, long hours of operation, and relative Zone 6-cheapness of the service. That is why half Essex seems to drive to Central Line stations, park, if they can, for free (eg at Debden), and endure the 92TS, gaffer tape and all!
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Post by stapler on Mar 26, 2023 9:15:50 GMT
Wasn't Chelmsford a possible destination when the Ongar line was first built, and also in more recent times since privatisation spoken of as a relief route for the Great Eastern? This was mooted in LOIS - the London-Ipswich multimodal study in the late 1990s. The line from Leyton to Ongar is to main line loading -gauge. But to preserve the metro type operation of the Central Line would have meant quadrupling south of Loughton or Woodford = megacost.
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