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Post by signalfailure on Mar 18, 2008 22:29:43 GMT
Talking to a Met Senior at Ricky tonight and there's been 7 attacks of graffiti in the Harrow On The Hill - Rickmansworth area.
What's the point in 'tagging' your name on a wall? Waste of paint time and money
F**ks me right off....
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Post by signalfailure on Mar 25, 2008 23:42:17 GMT
Over the bank holiday the Met was hit again 5 times. Looks like its gonna be really bad again when the kids break up for the week. Saw pictures the same guy took of a train stabled at watford over the weekend. 3 cars hit with some awful scribble. Id love to know where these little sh*ts are getting in then hold a sniper position there. Must be costing LUL Hundreds of thousands of pounds to repaint/clean! Disused stations where hit too. Marlborough Road aswell.... forget the names of the disused sation before baker street but that was hit pretty bad too... Old signal cabin near to watford curve was hit pretty bad too after just being cleaned.  |
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Post by towerman on Mar 26, 2008 1:07:40 GMT
You've got to be some sort of moron to rather be wandering round a dangerous rail line in the cold and dark than in a nice warm bed.
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Post by metman on Mar 26, 2008 1:16:43 GMT
The Finchley Road-Baker St stations are Swiss Cottage, Marlboro' Rd and St Johns Wood (Lords).
I can imagine there are plently of muppets out there willing to do it! If I saw anyone doing it I would dish out a major beating! Ricky was notorious for it a few years back, but generally things have improved.
The A stock look bad enough without all that filth all over them. There was one train tonight that was in a real state, elements of the cab dome was down to the base coat and the front and sides had been sanded and not made good! Paint the damn trains!!!!! I really gets on my nerves.....
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Post by astock5000 on Mar 26, 2008 8:53:48 GMT
The A stock look bad enough without all that filth all over them. There was one train tonight that was in a real state, elements of the cab dome was down to the base coat and the front and sides had been sanded and not made good! Paint the damn trains!!!!! I really gets on my nerves..... If I see 5000-6000-6001-5001 looking like that, I'll write a complaint!  |
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Post by metman on Mar 26, 2008 12:39:58 GMT
5000-5001 is in reasonable nick, but a lot of the other units look terrible! Some improvements have been made. I was in a unit yesterday 5054 I think that had a new piece of plywood added on the seat surround-yet to be painted mind you!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2008 18:28:36 GMT
I was on 5000 last night on the Amersham road, my train before, 5050 - 5109 had been hit down one side. :-(
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Post by metman on Mar 27, 2008 18:56:00 GMT
Hit by spray cans? B'stards!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2008 19:04:19 GMT
Yep, sprayed, might of been hit at Watford over the weekend?
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Post by undergroundernie on Mar 27, 2008 19:37:14 GMT
Its funny you should mention this because whilst travelling between Baker street and Watford this evening I noticed a few units with large pink patches on the front obv where the graffiti has been scrubbed off, has made a real mess of some trains.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2008 21:08:10 GMT
The truth is that most prolific graffiti vandals are known to the BTP, they just have to catch them in the act. I attended an inquest on the death of two vandals in October last year and they both had criminal records going back several years, the bodies were actually identified by their fingerprint records.
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Post by undergroundernie on Mar 27, 2008 21:16:38 GMT
The most infamous as im sure we know is "TOX", he certainly gets around! what really amazes me is some of the places they manage to get to to apply their tag.
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Post by c5 on Mar 27, 2008 21:22:46 GMT
The truth is that most prolific graffiti vandals are known to the BTP, they just have to catch them in the act. Indeed. When they [the BTP] are called to get a reference number for the vandalism, they ask if the tag says anything. Their response is sometimes "Oh, them. We'll pop round there later". The train is then sent to depot to await BTP to gather evidence The big problem is gathering significant evidence to gain a conviction. |
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Post by signalfailure on Mar 27, 2008 23:19:05 GMT
Was out at Chalfont last night seeing a friend and train 430 was hit pretty bad.... Funk it sounds similar to what you described. Could have been you?? Around 2130?ish...
The same mate works for the Graffiti team on the met who has to report graffiti and i see a lot of photo EVERY NIGHT about new graffiti attacks.
It really sickens me as to who and why someone would do this?! Do they not care or is it some sort of social heirarchy?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2008 11:31:00 GMT
Was out at Chalfont last night seeing a friend and train 430 was hit pretty bad.... Funk it sounds similar to what you described. Could have been you?? Around 2130?ish... Yep that was me, paused at Chalfont southbound for the resident Chesham Ricky man to take photos for the Controller. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2008 11:37:05 GMT
The most infamous as im sure we know is "TOX", he certainly gets around! what really amazes me is some of the places they manage to get to to apply their tag. I heard TOX was killed or was banged up and it was his mates spraying in respect of him. |
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Post by metman on Mar 28, 2008 13:30:52 GMT
TOX dead-shame! I hear he was convicted and locked up! He did get everywhere didn't he! How often do A stock get overhauled these days? Are they given a repaint at the same time?
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Post by astock5000 on Mar 28, 2008 14:20:36 GMT
It isn't just A stock that they don't remove graffiti from properly. I saw a 1995TS yesterday that still had ''TOX.05'' on its door.
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Post by metman on Mar 28, 2008 14:45:04 GMT
Really?! Gosh! It is strange that LU remove trains from service that get attacked (which is correct because image is important) but are slow to repaint damage etc!
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Post by undergroundernie on Mar 28, 2008 18:06:45 GMT
Wasnt it on the central line they were trialing rip-strips that if damaged by graffiti could be ripped off and replaced with a new vinyl section, though some of these people go one step further and etch their tag in paint stripper which is harder to remove.
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Post by metman on Mar 28, 2008 20:50:02 GMT
I think I saw it on C stock @ Hammersmith depot.
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Post by signalfailure on Mar 29, 2008 11:16:04 GMT
And there is also the 'acid tag' Get a cloth and use a cetrain acid then tag away in the windows.
Looks a complete mess! Uxbridge was hit 7 times last week and Ruislip IMR and various other locations where hit really bad.
Im gonna have to post up photos in here of damage being done so other members can get a perspective of whats happening to the met.
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Post by c5 on Mar 29, 2008 16:07:19 GMT
In reality, trains are only taken out of service if the graffitti is wet or offensive. However, the InfraCo should not offer a train for service if it has graffitti.
They can of course be changed over with a depot train during the day.
Mr Signal Failure, personally I don't think putting photos of the vandalism on this site is a good idea. Perhaps get some admin feedback first? We don't want the morons googling and then coming here to see their "work"!
Acid etch graffitti is particuarly nasty, as you could have an unsuspecting passenger or staff member touch it and at first sight are not aware if it has been neutralised.
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Post by Chris M on Mar 29, 2008 16:50:56 GMT
Wasn't a significant proportion of the Bakerloo(?) fleet unavailable due to acid etch graffiti one day last year?
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Post by c5 on Mar 29, 2008 17:25:43 GMT
Wasn't a significant proportion of the Bakerloo(?) fleet unavailable due to acid etch graffiti one day last year? Yes! |
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Post by metman on Mar 29, 2008 18:06:41 GMT
I heard that when the problems at the Triangle occured the other day, the C stock involved got attacked down one side!!
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Post by signalfailure on Mar 29, 2008 22:06:56 GMT
Was out at Chalfont last night seeing a friend and train 430 was hit pretty bad.... Funk it sounds similar to what you described. Could have been you?? Around 2130?ish... Yep that was me, paused at Chalfont southbound for the resident Chesham Ricky man to take photos for the Controller. HaHa quality i seen you loaaadsa times!  Yeah i see your point about getting permission first. I dont think i will upload the photos. It is a bad idea. |
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Post by towerman on Mar 29, 2008 22:16:59 GMT
Saw a C stock with TOX08 etched on the red paint under the cab today.
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Post by metman on Mar 29, 2008 23:22:48 GMT
Oh no.....his mates ARE at it!
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Post by undergroundernie on Mar 30, 2008 11:54:03 GMT
I believe at some point LUL were working with whoever operates the New York subway to see how they combat the problem of graffiti though im not sure if anything ever came from it.
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