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Post by signalfailure on Apr 20, 2008 10:48:08 GMT
Wouldnt it be more to the point that its costing. Rather than 8 car trains with extending Chalfont and Latimer station platform.
I personally thought it makes more sence as you wont have to pay for the extendature of chalfont platform.
So the use of 2 8 car units with an extra bay road at chalfont.
Do you get what im saying? Ive soft of confused myself.
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Post by metman on Apr 20, 2008 11:10:38 GMT
The way I see it is that there are several options: 1) Close the branch  2) Run all Chesham trains as through services 3) Extend/replace the bay road to get in 8 car trains 4) Have two 4 car S stock trains delivered to provide a shuttle service. |
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Post by signalfailure on Apr 20, 2008 13:18:57 GMT
I cant see them closing the branchline down. I would have thought it makes a fair old bit of cash annually.
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Post by Ben on Apr 20, 2008 16:01:02 GMT
2 and 3 seem most likely.
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Post by metman on Apr 20, 2008 19:40:29 GMT
I heard option 3 was being looked at!
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Post by signalfailure on Apr 22, 2008 18:31:46 GMT
Im certain 2 is happening.
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Post by happybunny on Apr 22, 2008 19:45:50 GMT
Im going for secrete option number 5
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Post by astock5000 on Apr 22, 2008 20:10:09 GMT
Whats option 5?
Chesham to Watford?
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Post by astock5000 on Apr 23, 2008 15:18:09 GMT
Ok, then I'll call Chesham to Watford option 6:
Option 1: Close the branch - Won't happen.
Option 2: Chesham to Baker Street - Possible.
Option 3: Extend the bay platform - Most likely.
Option 4: 2 x 4 car S stock - Won't happen, because they could only be used on the shuttle and each train would only be in service 50% of the time.
Option 5: Use other stock (e.g. keep 2 x 4 car A stock) - Won't happen.
Option 6: Chesham to Watford - I don't think this will happen.
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Post by Chris M on Apr 23, 2008 15:33:43 GMT
I am curious as to why you say Chesham to Watford "wont happen" with such appareent definitiveness.
While there might not be many passengers wanting to travel between the two end points, but it would open up more journey possibilities and easier interchanges.
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Post by metman on Apr 23, 2008 15:34:03 GMT
My prefered option would be number 5!!
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Post by astock5000 on Apr 23, 2008 15:44:55 GMT
I am curious as to why you say Chesham to Watford "wont happen" with such appareent definitiveness. While there might not be many passengers wanting to travel between the two end points, but it would open up more journey possibilities and easier interchanges. It would be a good idea, I just don't think it will happen. If Croxley link is built, then why not keep Watford open and run Watford to Chesham and Watford Junction to Baker Street? So would mine! |
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Post by metman on Apr 23, 2008 16:11:25 GMT
The Croxley link won't happen, nor will the Watford-Croxley service either. The plan is/was(?) to increase the Amersham service by 2.5tph! This won't leave room for a Chesham service. I believe the aim is to run 10tph Aldgate-Uxbridge, 6tph Baker Street-Watford and maybe 5tph Baker Street-Amersham!
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Post by astock5000 on Apr 23, 2008 16:44:42 GMT
The Croxley link won't happen, nor will the Watford-Croxley service either. The plan is/was(?) to increase the Amersham service by 2.5tph! This won't leave room for a Chesham service. I believe the aim is to run 10tph Aldgate-Uxbridge, 6tph Baker Street-Watford and maybe 5tph Baker Street-Amersham! The increased services won't start until the signalling is upgraded, and that has been delayed. If the S stock isn't, then you could run Watford to Chesham from when the last A stock goes and when the signalling gets upgraded. Then they wouldn't have to pay for the work at Chalfont so soon. |
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Post by ruislip on Apr 23, 2008 20:46:36 GMT
I believe the aim is to run 10tph Aldgate-Uxbridge, 1) I guess this means the Uxbridge service won't be extended to Barking  2) How will such a service affect the Piccadilly Line? Will they still have 3 tph beyond Rayners Lane? |
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Post by metman on Apr 23, 2008 22:33:46 GMT
Yes, the Barking idea has been scrapped-thankfully!
Hopefully, the picc will continue to alternate between Rayners Lane and Uxbridge as it does now!
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Post by astock5000 on Apr 24, 2008 14:30:26 GMT
Yes, the Barking idea has been scrapped-thankfully! Will that change the S stock order? |
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Post by ruislip on Apr 24, 2008 21:42:02 GMT
Something I thought of today: aren't there plenty of bus services connecting Chesham to Amersham?
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Post by signalfailure on Apr 24, 2008 22:13:19 GMT
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Post by amershamsi on Apr 24, 2008 22:41:42 GMT
the bus between Amersham and Chesham is one route, every 20 minutes IIRC. Not that I ever used it - transport to Chesham wasn't ever good enough for me to bother going there any way other than car. I can imagine that quite a few people drive to Amersham from Chesham at the moment, though perhaps more start their rail journey at Chalfont, which has more peak service. There's definitely not a case for closing the Chesham branch - their might (just) be a case for de-electrifying it and reducing service (though that's bound to make it so that you can close it).
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Post by metman on Apr 25, 2008 0:06:37 GMT
Chiltern don't want the line, so unless its closed, we're stuck with it! A few high profilers live in Chesham so I guess it's safe. Personally, I find it a charming little line that I would be sad to loose!
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Post by a60 on Apr 25, 2008 17:47:44 GMT
Just as I don't want A Stock to go, I don't want Chesham to go! I know, why don't we club together and get a couple of 4-car A stock, as far as my knowledge goes no A62 units were converted. I think these are 3 options. (5056etc, 5067etc &, 5234etc) I love A stock, me! |
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Post by metman on Apr 25, 2008 17:58:15 GMT
Correct, no A62 units had both cabs converted for OPO, nor are any of them De-icers. I would like to see 5056 kept, as it was the first train on my layout! 5234 is a heinz 57 unit, so I wouldn't go for it.
We could get a couple of units preserved ourselves, but we need somewhere to house them!
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Post by a60 on Apr 25, 2008 18:00:35 GMT
If I had funds I'd have built a shed at Ricky.
Or otherwise at Neasden.
Heinz 57 unit? I suppose the same would go for 5232 etc.
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Post by metman on Apr 25, 2008 18:08:33 GMT
It is made of cars 5034-6008-6009-5009!!
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Post by a60 on Apr 25, 2008 22:12:24 GMT
I agree with you metman, who wants a mixed unit!!?!
In view of a third option, I'd then go for 5123 etc, seeing as it was the last A60 built.
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Post by astock5000 on Jun 12, 2008 18:26:28 GMT
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Post by metman on Jun 12, 2008 18:35:55 GMT
If the S stock is delayed till 2011/12 I will be very pleased!
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If the S stock is delayed till 2011/12 I will be very pleased! So would half the drivers. ;-) |
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