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Post by stapler on Mar 18, 2019 13:05:23 GMT
Today, probably if they had direct trains to central London and sufficient car parking nearby to make commuting from there attractive. One of the issues that militated against the Ongar branch was the time it took to get to central London with no fast trains. But people will put up with slow speeds if it saves them money! |
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Post by aslefshrugged on Mar 23, 2019 0:32:11 GMT
Latest management blurb says WTT70 won't be introduced until January 2020.
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Post by drainrat on Mar 24, 2019 21:09:31 GMT
The one with the Twitter faux pas š
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Post by stapler on Mar 24, 2019 21:56:08 GMT
Drainrat --please explain!!
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Post by aslefshrugged on Mar 25, 2019 13:56:32 GMT
Drainrat --please explain!! At 07:31 on 10th March the Central Line Twitter feed announced that "We have minor delays between Woodford and Hainault due to absence of train staff", some wit called Ryan tweeted "Sunday morning hangovers?" and Central Line replied "Who knows?" The reply was deleted but obviously a lot of people saw it, myself included and Central Line management have issued an apology to train staff on behalf of their Twitter team. Oh yeah, I'm on Twitter now. |
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Post by superteacher on Mar 25, 2019 18:14:38 GMT
Drainrat --please explain!! At 07:31 on 10th March the Central Line Twitter feed announced that "We have minor delays between Woodford and Hainault due to absence of train staff", some wit called Ryan tweeted "Sunday morning hangovers?" and Central Line replied "Who knows?" The reply was deleted but obviously a lot of people saw it, myself included and Central Line management have issued an apology to train staff on behalf of their Twitter team. Oh yeah, I'm on Twitter now. Yep, saw that too! |
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Post by drainrat on Mar 26, 2019 13:26:23 GMT
Drainrat --please explain!! At 07:31 on 10th March the Central Line Twitter feed announced that "We have minor delays between Woodford and Hainault due to absence of train staff", some wit called Ryan tweeted "Sunday morning hangovers?" and Central Line replied "Who knows?" The reply was deleted but obviously a lot of people saw it, myself included and Central Line management have issued an apology to train staff on behalf of their Twitter team. Oh yeah, I'm on Twitter now. I think the biggest shock was the issuing of an apology from the current management š |
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Post by stapler on Mar 27, 2019 18:25:15 GMT
Is the intention to bring in WTT70 likely to change with the top brass moves?
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Post by superteacher on Mar 27, 2019 18:51:41 GMT
Is the intention to bring in WTT70 likely to change with the top brass moves? I doubt it as compilation is probably already in its early stages. |
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Post by superteacher on Mar 28, 2019 19:08:22 GMT
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Post by scheduler on Apr 22, 2019 18:18:34 GMT
Is the intention to bring in WTT70 likely to change with the top brass moves? I doubt it as compilation is probably already in its early stages. Think "early" is an underestimate. "is already commenced months ago" would be a better description. |
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Post by stapler on Apr 23, 2019 6:59:23 GMT
I doubt it as compilation is probably already in its early stages. Think "early" is an underestimate. "is already commenced months ago" would be a better description. So... March 2020? |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Apr 23, 2019 8:56:42 GMT
Confirmed as 26 January 2020 and WTT71 as āApril 2021ā. |
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Post by aslefshrugged on Oct 22, 2019 14:29:10 GMT
Just received this info:-
Increases in frequency between Leytonstone and White City
Monday to Friday 06:00 - 07:00 from 15tph to 18tph
Monday to Saturday 22:00-23:00 from 19tph to 24tph
Sunday 16:30 - 18:15 from 22tph to 24tph.
Reduction in the evening peak of trains to Debden, Theydon Bois and Epping from 11tph to 8tph
Four car shuttle between Woodford and Hainault - "Customers who want continuing services to central London must change at Woodford (as they do today) or at Hainault". |
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Post by superteacher on Oct 22, 2019 19:41:55 GMT
Just received this info:-
Increases in frequency between Leytonstone and White City
Monday to Friday 06:00 - 07:00 from 15tph to 18tph
Monday to Saturday 22:00-23:00 from 19tph to 24tph
Sunday 16:30 - 18:15 from 22tph to 24tph.
Reduction in the evening peak of trains to Debden, Theydon Bois and Epping from 11tph to 8tph
Four car shuttle between Woodford and Hainault - "Customers who want continuing services to central London must change at Woodford (as they do today) or at Hainault". So they are reversing 7tph at Loughton. Whoever designs these timetables obviously has no idea about matching the service to the demand. Which is one of the key aspects of timetabling. What benefits will the rest of the line get as a result of these reductions? I presume they are looking to increase beyond 30tph in the central section? |
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Post by aslefshrugged on Oct 22, 2019 23:31:57 GMT
According to the bit of bumph in my drawer "This means we are able to maintain the frequency of the trains on the busiest section of the Epping branch, between Woodford and Loughton".
I'm sorry but I actually wet myself a little when I read that. The only experience the people who create timetables at Palestra House have of railways is clearly when Santa left a Hornby set under the Christmas tree.
WTT69 is the worst bodge job since I started working on the Central Line since 2002, hopefully WTT70 will actually be better.
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Post by jimbo on Oct 23, 2019 3:07:53 GMT
Just received this info:- ..... Reduction in the evening peak of trains to Debden, Theydon Bois and Epping from 11tph to 8tph
Four car shuttle between Woodford and Hainault - "Customers who want continuing services to central London must change at Woodford (as they do today) or at Hainault".
This is all about making the best from the fleet available. The Deep Tube Upgrade dreams of 100 trains! Was 1992TS designed for 4-car operation? Or does it require modification? Do staff require more training for 4-car operation? Will this be all staff at Hainault, or only a small link roster? Has 1992TS operated in service as 4-car or 6-car in the past? |
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Post by superteacher on Oct 23, 2019 5:03:11 GMT
1992 stock has never operated in anything other than 8 cars in service.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Oct 23, 2019 6:27:05 GMT
Has 1992TS operated in service as 4-car ... in the past? The Waterloo & City Line does. |
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Post by stapler on Oct 23, 2019 10:11:56 GMT
What's the betting that, the remotoring project finished, Hainault-Woodford will remain an isolated half-length shuttle, especially now that a planning inspector has deleted major development near Grange Hill from the LocalPlan....
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Post by billbedford on Oct 23, 2019 10:19:57 GMT
1992 stock has never operated in anything other than 8 cars in service. I thought there were some sets made up of 2 x 4cars. |
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Post by aslefshrugged on Oct 23, 2019 10:31:52 GMT
1992 stock has never operated in anything other than 8 cars in service. I thought there were some sets made up of 2 x 4cars. 4 x 2-car formation, two A-B units and two B-C units (with the odd A-B unit in the middle). A cars have cabs |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Oct 23, 2019 16:18:00 GMT
1992 stock has never operated in anything other than 8 cars in service. I thought there were some sets made up of 2 x 4cars. A train formed A-B + B-A + A-B + B-A would look like two double-ended four-car trains coupled together, but it would still really be four two-car units. But I don't think I've ever seen such a formation - there is usually at least one B-C unit (and usually two, of course) in each train. |
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Post by stapler on Oct 23, 2019 17:03:45 GMT
What time is being allowed to swap the motors (etc) on each 8-car formation? What are the prospects of it being met?
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Post by superteacher on Oct 27, 2019 21:03:21 GMT
Iām assuming there will still be the am trains which enter service at Grange Hill and run through to Central London?
Also, I assume that only the east end drivers will be rostered to operate the shuttle?
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Post by jamesb on Oct 27, 2019 22:17:32 GMT
Will there still be 3tph between Woodford and Hainault?
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Post by aslefshrugged on Oct 28, 2019 0:48:26 GMT
Will there still be 3tph between Woodford and Hainault? From the bulletin we received last week |
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Post by countryman on Oct 28, 2019 8:20:32 GMT
I thought there were some sets made up of 2 x 4cars. A train formed A-B + B-A + A-B + B-A would look like two double-ended four-car trains coupled together, but it would still really be four two-car units. But I don't think I've ever seen such a formation - there is usually at least one B-C unit (and usually two, of course) in each train. Just a thought. Would it be possible in theory to run 6 car trains (A-B + B-A + B-A or A-B + B-C + B-A)? |
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Post by MoreToJack on Oct 28, 2019 11:50:43 GMT
Yes. In theory it is possible to run any combination of train as long as it fits within the signalling system. I understand a few modifications would be required to allow 6-car trains to run in practice (in the same way that some modifications are required for 4-car running, although I am afraid that I cannot remember precisely what).
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Post by underover on Oct 28, 2019 15:55:13 GMT
What time is being allowed to swap the motors (etc) on each 8-car formation? What are the prospects of it being met? The motors are going to ultimately be done within a larger scope of work, but a few weeks per 'train' I imagine. |
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