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Post by alexiscold on Jan 16, 2021 9:27:35 GMT
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Post by spsmiler on Jan 16, 2021 21:18:47 GMT
Thank you! For reasons which I think will be understood by everyone, I've not been on the trains for several months - so have not been able took out for the updated route maps. I wonder what passengers think about all this? As an aside, something that might affect the shuttle service is the possibility of a road user entry fee to enter the Greater London area as defined by local govt. boundaries. The significance of this to the shuttle service is that part of its route acts as the London / Essex boundary and it *might* be that the new road user fee (if enacted) will increase passenger numbers at stations such as Chigwell and Roding Valley. (ie: people who do not want to pay a new fee to make an otherwise short local journey by road). |
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Post by Chris L on Jan 17, 2021 20:31:05 GMT
Thank you! For reasons which I think will be understood by everyone, I've not been on the trains for several months - so have not been able took out for the updated route maps. I wonder what passengers think about all this? As an aside, something that might affect the shuttle service is the possibility of a road user entry fee to enter the Greater London area as defined by local govt. boundaries. The significance of this to the shuttle service is that part of its route acts as the London / Essex boundary and it *might* be that the new road user fee (if enacted) will increase passenger numbers at stations such as Chigwell and Roding Valley. (ie: people who do not want to pay a new fee to make an otherwise short local journey by road). There is no such time as 24:00 as on the modified diagram. The next minute on timetables is 00:01. The use of midnight would have been preferable or 23:59. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jan 17, 2021 21:22:02 GMT
There is no such time as 24:00 as on the modified diagram. The next minute on timetables is 00:01. The use of midnight would have been preferable or 23:59. 24:00 is used on LU Working Timetables, as is 00:00¼ and 00:00:05 |
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Post by jimbo on Jan 17, 2021 21:44:04 GMT
The two adjoining wheelchair symbols at Hainault don't give a clear message, as the double tick end-of-line symbol did in the past! |
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Post by metman on Jan 17, 2021 21:52:33 GMT
No they don’t, it’s a bit of a messy diagram isn’t it. The route Woodford is interesting - basically indicating we’ll operate a service when we feel like it! 😂
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Post by stapler on Jan 17, 2021 21:59:28 GMT
Thank you! For reasons which I think will be understood by everyone, I've not been on the trains for several months - so have not been able took out for the updated route maps. I wonder what passengers think about all this? As an aside, something that might affect the shuttle service is the possibility of a road user entry fee to enter the Greater London area as defined by local govt. boundaries. The significance of this to the shuttle service is that part of its route acts as the London / Essex boundary and it *might* be that the new road user fee (if enacted) will increase passenger numbers at stations such as Chigwell and Roding Valley. (ie: people who do not want to pay a new fee to make an otherwise short local journey by road). There is no such time as 24:00 as on the modified diagram. The next minute on timetables is 00:01. The use of midnight would have been preferable or 23:59. Road charging to enter Greater London near Chigwell? Impossible. So many roads are cross-border, you couldn't do it.Current proposals are the North Circular, aren't they? There is also a proposal for charging to enter the Epping Forest Special Area of Conservation, as emissions are damaging it. We are back to the era of Turnpike Trusts,I fear... |
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Post by Chris M on Jan 17, 2021 22:30:15 GMT
I believe that the proposals for road charging are to use the same boundary as the low emission zone - both for simplicity of signage and communication and for efficient of operation as one set of cameras can be used for both restrictions.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jan 18, 2021 7:46:19 GMT
There is no such time as 24:00 as on the modified diagram. The next minute on timetables is 00:01. The use of midnight would have been preferable or 23:59. 24:00 is correct if signifying the end of something, as here. 00:00 if marking the beginning of something. To avoid confusion over which day is referred to, NR railway timetables on regular interval services usually adjust times to be 2359 (departure) or 0001 (arrival). For technical reasons digital clocks displays run 23:59:59, 00:00:00, 00:00:01 rather than 23:59:59, 24:00:00, 00:00:01 although either would be correct. |
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Post by commuter on Jan 20, 2021 17:19:48 GMT
I believe that the proposals for road charging are to use the same boundary as the low emission zone - both for simplicity of signage and communication and for efficient of operation as one set of cameras can be used for both restrictions. You are correct...the proposals {and for the time being they are only that as three is presently no legal framework for T.F.L to charge them) are for the road charge to be continuous with the low emission zone boundary -this is largely contiguous with the border of Greater London but not entirely as there are some corners where the L.E.Z starts a fair way from the border and it also doesn’t include some roads like the M25 or the M4 after junction 3. This is not to be confused with the ULTRA low emission zone (known as U.L.E.Z) which is currently the congestion charge some but soon to be expanded upto but not including the north and south circular roads. |
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Post by superteacher on Jan 20, 2021 19:40:40 GMT
Anyway, back on topic please.
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