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Post by d7666 on Jan 25, 2022 15:36:23 GMT
No different then to today when deciding to make that same journey by main line or Central Line. Except which stairs to decide to go down. I agree and did say it's minor, at least until you trek to your choice and find a service disruption. For me Central line would be bottom option. Too noisy and cramped and with too much rail corrugation en route. No comparison to a nice new Aventra or even a perfectly adequate old 321 or 315 while they are still about. While I get what you say about stock types, you have already predetermined to use GE, so there is no decision to make. And I think that applies to ''normals'' too, who don't particularly care whether their train has AC or DC motors, is painted red or white, or longitudinal or transverse seats, or has yellow ends or not, or what number it is, and so on, but have other priorities about how to get from A to B. Service disruption is an issue - I see that too - but if check in advance, that decision is already made and you go to the least disrupted, or, if it is a last minute disruption where you are already on a ''good service'' platform when the disruption event starts there is zilch you can do about that anyway no matter what was on what screen anywhere even 2 minutes before you got there. |
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Post by Deep Level on Jan 25, 2022 22:06:05 GMT
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Post by aslefshrugged on Jan 28, 2022 14:36:18 GMT
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Post by jimbo on Jan 28, 2022 23:18:26 GMT
Delay to core opening could overcome problem of trial 24tph service before through services to National Rail link |
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Post by Chris L on Jan 29, 2022 6:00:13 GMT
As it says in the article Costain Skanska were removed from the project in June 2020. |
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Post by aslefshrugged on Jan 29, 2022 10:52:18 GMT
Which leaves the question of who is actually doing to work?
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Post by goldenarrow on Jan 29, 2022 12:59:17 GMT
Works at Bond Street were taken in house by Crossrail in June 2020. Back then, the station was estimated to be 18 months adrift from the rest of the project compared to just under 12 weeks currently.
Interesting what you can achieve when you stop blindly following “market knows best” and just focus on investing/consolidating your skill base...
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Post by Chris L on Jan 30, 2022 8:25:53 GMT
Trial running today in the core section between Stratford/Abbey Wood and Paddington. At certain times there will be trains every 2½ minutes.
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Post by Deep Level on Feb 3, 2022 12:14:52 GMT
I've noticed that all of the train doors are now fully opening automatically at Stratford. I thought this was only going to happen in the core but I guess it does make sense at Stratford. It's not happening anywhere else between Ilford and Stratford.
Another thing that seems to have started recently (happened to me on Monday and Tuesday last week and then again today) is that there seems to be an issue at Stratford where it's causing a train coming into P5 to suddenly apply the emergency brakes halfway down the platform.
They seem to be prepared for it now as last week they took a couple of minutes to sort the issue before continuing unlike today where it took about 10 seconds until we started moving again. The other difference about what happened today is that the train announced a destination change to Shenfield immediately before the brakes applied.
Could this be something to do with the weekend trial operations from Stratford?
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Post by goldenarrow on Feb 8, 2022 14:31:31 GMT
Improvement works at Burnham including a new ticket hall have been completed completing the set on TFL Rail West. Click here if tweet fails to appear |
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Post by aslefshrugged on Feb 11, 2022 14:59:03 GMT
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Post by sunnyday on Feb 12, 2022 16:27:06 GMT
I've noticed that all of the train doors are now fully opening automatically at Stratford. I thought this was only going to happen in the core but I guess it does make sense at Stratford. It's not happening anywhere else between Ilford and Stratford. Another thing that seems to have started recently (happened to me on Monday and Tuesday last week and then again today) is that there seems to be an issue at Stratford where it's causing a train coming into P5 to suddenly apply the emergency brakes halfway down the platform. They seem to be prepared for it now as last week they took a couple of minutes to sort the issue before continuing unlike today where it took about 10 seconds until we started moving again. The other difference about what happened today is that the train announced a destination change to Shenfield immediately before the brakes applied. Could this be something to do with the weekend trial operations from Stratford? Since 3rd of Jan, trains have been transitioning from the traditional TPWS system into the new CBTC system on approach to Stratford. (And then back again near Bow Junction). Unfortunately, there is an issue which is causing quite a few trains not to transition correctly, which is causing these brake applications half way into the station on quite a few trains each day. When the train stops, the driver needs permission to move forward and stop in degraded mode and then has to go through the process of manually enforcing the doors open, as the system doesn't know where the train is so won't allow them to open as normal. They then need further permission to move towards Liverpool Street or the tunnel. There is no rhyme or reason for this fault, and it won't be resolved until the next software update, apparently. This is also the reason why empty services towards Liverpool Street and the tunnel now have to stop at the station for 57 seconds as this is what is programmed into the new system. (Until it will also be corrected in the new system). |
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Post by grumpycat on Feb 12, 2022 23:42:02 GMT
I've noticed that all of the train doors are now fully opening automatically at Stratford. I thought this was only going to happen in the core but I guess it does make sense at Stratford. It's not happening anywhere else between Ilford and Stratford. Another thing that seems to have started recently (happened to me on Monday and Tuesday last week and then again today) is that there seems to be an issue at Stratford where it's causing a train coming into P5 to suddenly apply the emergency brakes halfway down the platform. They seem to be prepared for it now as last week they took a couple of minutes to sort the issue before continuing unlike today where it took about 10 seconds until we started moving again. The other difference about what happened today is that the train announced a destination change to Shenfield immediately before the brakes applied. Could this be something to do with the weekend trial operations from Stratford? Since 3rd of Jan, trains have been transitioning from the traditional TPWS system into the new CBTC system on approach to Stratford. (And then back again near Bow Junction). Unfortunately, there is an issue which is causing quite a few trains not to transition correctly, which is causing these brake applications half way into the station on quite a few trains each day. When the train stops, the driver needs permission to move forward and stop in degraded mode and then has to go through the process of manually enforcing the doors open, as the system doesn't know where the train is so won't allow them to open as normal. They then need further permission to move towards Liverpool Street or the tunnel. There is no rhyme or reason for this fault, and it won't be resolved until the next software update, apparently. This is also the reason why empty services towards Liverpool Street and the tunnel now have to stop at the station for 57 seconds as this is what is programmed into the new system. (Until it will also be corrected in the new system). I was wondering when I was working at stratford why 345s were stopping halfway into the platform |
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Post by sunnyday on Feb 13, 2022 9:07:23 GMT
It's another great (unexpected) feature of the new system. The aim is to get to the end of the platform correctly before impatient passengers see a central line opposite and force open the doors.
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Post by Deep Level on Feb 13, 2022 10:29:47 GMT
Quite enjoyed watching this tour:
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Post by silenthunter on Feb 13, 2022 12:28:46 GMT
Did that, back when it was less complete, as part of an Open House event some years back. Look forward to seeing it in operation and plan to book a day off in the opening week if I can.
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Post by orienteer on Feb 14, 2022 15:45:03 GMT
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Post by xplaistow on Feb 14, 2022 16:34:12 GMT
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Post by Tom on Feb 14, 2022 19:35:45 GMT
A couple of posts were temporarily removed from this thread as they link to a webpage which appeared to contravene the Terms and Conditions for Trial Operations participants.
Edit 22/2/22: They have now been reinstated following clarification from Transport for London.
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Post by spsmiler on Feb 15, 2022 0:48:54 GMT
Visible sign of work underway at Ilford....
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Post by aslefshrugged on Feb 16, 2022 10:44:14 GMT
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Post by AndrewS on Feb 17, 2022 19:42:09 GMT
A couple of posts have been removed from this thread as they link to a webpage which contravenes the Terms and Conditions for Trial Operations participants.
For those unaware, participants must agree not to post pictures, commentary or feedback to Social Media. It does seem a somewhat forlorn hope to invite hundreds of people to take part but then expect them to keep their experience quiet. Presumably it's either to avoid possible bad publicity or to keep up the suspense until the excitement of the official launch, though I suspect many of the general public will have lost interest by now given the long wait. |
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Post by castlebar on Feb 18, 2022 13:21:46 GMT
I've lost interest already.
Should have stuck to the name "Crossrail" and do away with the fawning and simpering
It'll need to be called the "Charlie Line" or the "William Line" when it's ready to open
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Post by brigham on Feb 18, 2022 18:18:56 GMT
I've lost interest already. Should have stuck to the name "Crossrail" and do away with the fawning and simpering It'll need to be called the "Charlie Line" or the "William Line" when it's ready to open It should have stuck to the IDEA of "Crossrail", and been part of the National Rail Network. Did London really need another Tube? |
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Post by Tom on Feb 18, 2022 18:20:09 GMT
It does seem a somewhat forlorn hope to invite hundreds of people to take part but then expect them to keep their experience quiet. Presumably it's either to avoid possible bad publicity or to keep up the suspense until the excitement of the official launch, though I suspect many of the general public will have lost interest by now given the long wait. My personal feeling is that it was a request that was near-impossible to achieve, as has been illustrated. Quite why it was imposed I don't know, but I'd agree it for the reasons you suggest (and probably the former of those). |
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Post by johnlinford on Feb 18, 2022 18:40:07 GMT
One post on twitter I saw, who received written permission from TfL to post their photos, showed a response from TfL that the intention was that they didn't want live posting rather than being worried about after the fact posts. |
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Post by silenthunter on Feb 18, 2022 20:35:26 GMT
The fact that they invited a well-known blogger, who had written extensively on TfL, to this operation, suggests either they didn't know who he was or were relaxed about it the whole time.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Feb 18, 2022 21:55:20 GMT
I've lost interest already. Should have stuck to the name "Crossrail" and do away with the fawning and simpering It'll need to be called the "Charlie Line" or the "William Line" when it's ready to open It should have stuck to the IDEA of "Crossrail", and been part of the National Rail Network. Did London really need another Tube? It is part of the National Rail Network, apart from the central section it runs on Network Rail infrastructure, shared with Great Western Railway and Greater Anglia. When Crossrail was granted approval in 2008 the Central and other lines were getting seriously overcrowded so there clearly was a need. |
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Post by brigham on Feb 19, 2022 8:39:16 GMT
The central section, which is what the whole concept was about, seems to have lower route availability than the Hayling Island branch.
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Post by toby on Feb 19, 2022 9:40:50 GMT
That's how you get high performance out of the expensive asset.
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