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Post by goldenarrow on Oct 9, 2018 17:50:20 GMT
May well be a while before these actually are true to their respective stations. These are on the newly altered class 378’s.
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Post by A60stock on Oct 10, 2018 13:34:08 GMT
Looks so odd having it as Elizabeth line, why cant it just be Elizabeth? Would fit it more with the other lines. TFL really are stubborn about branding!
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Post by rincew1nd on Oct 10, 2018 13:44:00 GMT
That's because it's the Elizabeth Line Line.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Oct 10, 2018 14:12:46 GMT
That's because it's the Elizabeth Line Line. Although it won't go to Battersea Power Station Station.
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Post by silenthunter on Oct 11, 2018 11:22:58 GMT
They do really need to change the hoardings at Farringdon and other places saying "Coming December 2018".
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Post by trt on Oct 11, 2018 11:25:18 GMT
They do really need to change the hoardings at Farringdon and other places saying "Coming December 2018". Why? It still will be. It doesn't say "Arriving December 2018", does it?
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Post by silenthunter on Oct 11, 2018 11:30:17 GMT
They do really need to change the hoardings at Farringdon and other places saying "Coming December 2018". Why? It still will be. It doesn't say "Arriving December 2018", does it? Well, it's kind of misleading now that you won't be able to get an EL train at Farringdon then.
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Post by rincew1nd on Oct 11, 2018 13:40:14 GMT
I think there's perhaps more important things to be spending money on.
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Post by silenthunter on Oct 11, 2018 15:29:53 GMT
How much does glossy paper and poster glue cost?
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Post by Chris M on Oct 11, 2018 15:42:36 GMT
Plus the cost of the time to design the replacement, the printing, distribution, the time of the person/people doing the pasting. Then the extra cost to recycle it all later.
Not that much in the grand scheme of things, but it all adds up.
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Post by snoggle on Oct 22, 2018 20:25:44 GMT
Another emergency short notice TfL Board Meeting has been arranged for this coming Wednesday to discuss Crossrail. As ever there is scant detail in the papers but I assume it's to do with funding issues. content.tfl.gov.uk/board-20181024-agenda.pdf
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Post by Chris M on Oct 23, 2018 1:48:50 GMT
ianvisits posted a picture on facebook of the notice about the meeting (I'm not sure where). It confirms it is about Crossrail funding: (any typos are mine)
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Post by crusty54 on Oct 23, 2018 4:15:41 GMT
Vinyl patches for the hoardings are being prepared at the moment.
Terminal 5 also being added to the route diagram.
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Post by silenthunter on Oct 23, 2018 11:18:33 GMT
Vinyl patches for the hoardings are being prepared at the moment. Terminal 5 also being added to the route diagram. Good. Got any images of these?
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Post by crusty54 on Oct 24, 2018 18:04:22 GMT
Vinyl patches for the hoardings are being prepared at the moment. Terminal 5 also being added to the route diagram. Good. Got any images of these? Still in preparation.
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Post by rincew1nd on Oct 26, 2018 11:05:25 GMT
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Post by DWS on Oct 26, 2018 13:36:57 GMT
Click/tap here if embedded tweet fails to display. Just how will Tfl find the money to repay this loan.
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Post by roman80 on Oct 26, 2018 16:21:29 GMT
Click/tap here if embedded tweet fails to display. Just how will Tfl find the money to repay this loan. Probably by kicking the can down the road by borrowing more in the debt capital markets. Tfl is the largest public sector issuer of debt in the UK after the DMO (Debt Management Office). I am away from a Bloomberg terminal as out of the office, but will try to check the exact figures of their borrowings over the weekend.
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Post by goldenarrow on Oct 26, 2018 19:01:47 GMT
This is also an attempt to defer blame down the line when the extent of the incompetence that will know doubt put blame on the Department for Transport. Westminster clearly saw £350 million as being more beneficial in terms of accountability even if that meant directly contradicting what Bernadette Kelly (Permanent Secretary at the DfT) had said before the Public Accounts Committee (which I was present for) which she stated that, "That ultimately London is the beneficiary of Crossrail and London will need to find a way of bering the costs of the delay". If in 2020, City Hall and the Palace of Westminster are chaired by the same party, I foresee a debt deferral act in the form of a private members bill not being far away to deal with the debacle that will come to overshadow TfL in the years leading up to the next general election.
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Post by snoggle on Oct 26, 2018 22:21:02 GMT
Just how will Tfl find the money to repay this loan. Probably by kicking the can down the road by borrowing more in the debt capital markets. Tfl is the largest public sector issuer of debt in the UK after the DMO (Debt Management Office). I am away from a Bloomberg terminal as out of the office, but will try to check the exact figures of their borrowings over the weekend. I've read elsewhere that this form of short term finance is repayable within 12 months. If that is true then TfL have a real mess on their hands for the next Business Plan and Budget. Trying to take £350m out of the budget on top of everything else that has already been delayed / postponed / quietly cancelled will inflict huge problems. Note this comes on top of an expected revenue shortfall due to Crossrail being delayed, other revenues flatlining, the £100m TfL have already had to find for Crossrail overruns plus all the other projects that have or are going wrong like the contract for the new Picc Line stock, the 12 month delay to new Overground rolling stock, rumblings of cost problems on the Barking Riverside project before it's even started and the multi hundred million pound claim for station redesign issues on the Northern Line extension. I appreciate TfL make risk provisions for some of these issues but we are talking about big money here even in the context of an annual £10bn spend. I suspect some form of additional longer term debt is the only viable answer to get this short term loan repaid but that affects later years of the Business Plan when the level of TfL debt is already projected to be at the maximum viable extent. The problems on Crossrail are going to do nothing to improve the rating agencies view of TfL's competence and therefore the cost of TfL debt. That's yet another compounding factor to add on top of all the rest. If TfL can't raise additional debt then it will be huge budget cuts that are likely to cause all services to be reduced - buses, tubes, Overground, DLR, everything. Cycle hire would have to be seriously looked at as it makes a huge loss. The other factor to bear in mind is the "put option" provision in the Crossrail Agreement and funding package. This allows the DfT to effectively take over all the shares of Cross London Rail Links and thus the ownership of the Crossrail core infrastructure. It would also mean that the access charge revenues (payable by MTR Crossrail) would no longer flow to TfL Rail Infrastructure (currently expected to own the Crossrail core) and neither would the projected "profit" from those charges given revenues will be far in excess of maintenance costs for many years. This may mean (I don't understand all the fine detail) that TfL would be left to repay Crossrail loans but without the access charge profits to do so. (Note - I may be wrong on this as the DfT may take on the loan repayment commitment if they grab the infrastructure. It's not an easy concept to understand and working through all the legalese is a bit much). This is Mr Grayling's most powerful immediate tool to clobber and humiliate the Mayor. Let's see if he uses it. Sitting behind all of this is some rather nasty and poisonous politics. I won't detail my musings but I can't see a Tory government wanting to help a Labour Mayor at all as we start the run up to the May 2020 Mayoral Elections. That aligned with the "let's pretend to help the North" rhetoric puts TfL in an extremely perilous position (IMO). Of course the real prize is to force the Mayor to abandon his Fares Freeze - I imagine he has been put under enormous pressure to do that in return for a more generous funding settlement. "You only have to make this one policy change and instantly everything will be better" (PS - we will chuck "you broke your manifesto commitment" accusations at you every 5 mins from now to May 2020). What interesting times.
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Post by goldenarrow on Nov 2, 2018 15:36:31 GMT
Mark Wild (London Underground's current managing director) is being roped in to become the new chief executive of Crossrail replacing Simon Wright. I doubt this will make any tangible difference on the ground but as far as the political head hunting goes, I guess it was inevitable that they wanted blood.
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Post by roythebus on Nov 3, 2018 0:15:41 GMT
The figure of £350m sounds familiar, maybe from the side of a bus a couple of years ago?
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Post by snoggle on Nov 3, 2018 9:33:37 GMT
Mark Wild (London Underground's current managing director) is being roped in to become the new chief executive of Crossrail replacing Simon Wright. I doubt this will make any tangible difference on the ground but as far as the political head hunting goes, I guess it was inevitable that they wanted blood. As various media commentators observed yesterday it is notable that TfL fail to mention the fact that Mr Wild has been on the Crossrail Board for many many months. This idea that he is somehow "new" to Crossrail is odd (to be polite). OK he will have more executive power but surely as a Board member he was using all his knowledge and expertise to ask relevant and pointed questions about the palpable lack of progress? If not, why not? If he did then was he ignored? Excuse my cynicism but something's not quite right here. I note that Mr Holness becomes LU MD temporarily and that his escape to the "former LU senior operational managers colony" aka NSW in Australia has been delayed. I make it 4 or possibly 5 that have headed that way.
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Post by jukes on Nov 3, 2018 17:50:55 GMT
Mark Wild (London Underground's current managing director) is being roped in to become the new chief executive of Crossrail replacing Simon Wright. I doubt this will make any tangible difference on the ground but as far as the political head hunting goes, I guess it was inevitable that they wanted blood. As various media commentators observed yesterday it is notable that TfL fail to mention the fact that Mr Wild has been on the Crossrail Board for many many months. This idea that he is somehow "new" to Crossrail is odd (to be polite). OK he will have more executive power but surely as a Board member he was using all his knowledge and expertise to ask relevant and pointed questions about the palpable lack of progress? If not, why not? If he did then was he ignored? Excuse my cynicism but something's not quite right here. I note that Mr Holness becomes LU MD temporarily and that his escape to the "former LU senior operational managers colony" aka NSW in Australia has been delayed. I make it 4 or possibly 5 that have headed that way. Simon Wright was leaving anyway so all this has done is brought it forward perhaps 6-months +/-. Mark Wild was already overseeing Crossrail as his MD LU job was subsuming the Elizabeth line as it progressively transitioned from Crossrail Ltd (the builders) over to TfL (the operators). Once Crossrail is up and running and Mark resumes his MD crown there will be no discernible difference as he will be doing the same job as he was always going to be doing!!! All this has achieved is giving TfL full control at Board level 6-months early and looks good from a 'political' point of view even though it's meaningless in reality!
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Post by snoggle on Jan 9, 2019 17:05:25 GMT
There was a further Transport Cttee meeting at City Hall today. There were two distinct parts - first with Sir Terry Morgan, second with Mark Wild, Heidi Alexander, David Hughes (TfL) and the new yet to start Chairman of Crossrail Ltd. A webcast is available on the London.gov.uk site.
To no great surprise Sir Terry's view of what was said at the July 2018 meeting differs from what was stated by the Mayor and Commissioner in Dec last year. No real point in dwelling on any of that. Various statements were made that don't align with what others have said so we're no further forward.
The second session had a few new bits of info from Mark Wild.
- Woolwich Station is apparently "handed over" and "looks great". Farringdon and Custom House are at contractor demobilisation stage. - Bond Street will finish last, probably in the Summer. - The aim is to get all the construction at stations done with 3-4 months to then allow system testing within stations. - Still working on a programme to sequence the functional testing at stations. This sequencing work should take a few more weeks to complete. - Signalling at Heathrow is not a key priority *at the moment* for Mark Wild. The efforts of Bombardier and Siemens are on getting the core signalling working plus the transition points at Royal Oak / Pudding Mill Lane. - It may still be the case that if the core opens 1 or 2 stations may not open fully. Clearly that is wholly dependent on the relative progress of both train and station testing. If all the stations get through testing and commissioning and into operational preparedness broadly together then that partial opening wouldn't be needed. - Mark Wild stressed multiple times that the Crossrail project did not fully understand the extent of the technical challenge in getting from a construction to an operating railway. I sort of struggle with this given the multiple times he and Sir Terry Morgan said they'd got excellent people on the project and at Executive / Board level. - Apparently around 1,000 people at Bombardier at multiple sites worldwide incl Derby and Bangalore are involved in trying to get the Aventras working with Siemens Trainguard plus the transition points. - Although no firm statements were made about opening dates there was a clear preference from Mark Wild to preserve the structure of a phased opening in order to give time for reliability growth with each iteration of the timetable. - Contracts have been let by NR for the station rebuilds at Southall, Hayes and Harlington and West Drayton. - The contracts for Acton Main Line, Ealing Broadway and West Ealing should be let very soon. Some level of enabling works at these sites was achieved over the Xmas possessions. - Accessibility works at some of East London stations should finish within a few weeks. No info yet re Ilford and Romford where the scope is larger and more involved.
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Post by superteacher on Jan 9, 2019 18:21:14 GMT
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Post by goldenarrow on Jan 9, 2019 22:17:18 GMT
I think I'm going to start reffering to this as Crossrailgate. I'd assume Sir Morgan would not have the legal grounds to publish the original documents providing he has the un meddled one?
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Post by AndrewPSSP on Jan 12, 2019 11:34:59 GMT
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Post by Antje on Jan 12, 2019 14:23:24 GMT
I think I'm going to start reffering to this as Crossrailgate. I'd assume Sir Morgan would not have the legal grounds to publish the original documents providing he has the un meddled one? I thought it was Crossgate.
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Post by rincew1nd on Jan 12, 2019 14:36:55 GMT
That's a place in East Leeds.
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