New 378 Livery?

The more I see this livery the more it grows on me. The black sides imitate the "ribbon" windows of stock such as cl460

I know I'm only being pedantic but that's actually Forest Hill.

I quite like the livery, but what's the random yellow thing in the middle of the door?

Do you mean the housing for the centre headlight above the door? That's the bit that the designers forgot about.

Might need dazz285 to verify this as my knowledge of the 378's is vague at best.

If your referring to the circulator lense above the left hand headlight, I believe that is a egress light an image of which (below) was published in the Rail Accident Investigation Branch report into the Peckham Rye detrainment.



If your referring to the rectangular shape to the bottom left of the center door, then I believe that is an access handle for the aforementioned door that slides outwards and sideways primarily seeing use during evacuations in tunnel sections as seen below.

You're right, it is, I left two halves of separate sentences in without checking!

Saw it in person a few days ago and I think it looks great.

However, if they were trying to match the 710s they've made a mistake. On the 378s the black window band wraps all the way around the coach end, but on the 710 the coach ends are all white.

Good to hear that vandalised stock is stopped.
The travelling public will soon lose their complacency.

Returning to the train in the new 710 inspired livery, trying to find it is like looking for a needle in a haystack.

I think I will need to stand at a vantage point somewhere near to a station between Dalston Junction and Surrey Docks so that I can catch it when it passes by without risking breaching an Oyster journey time limit. This way I will see all the trains, no matter which ELL route they are serving.

Unit 150 is now refreshed and out in service!

I don't think it necessary to repeat my views in detail again, but my dislike of the new livery has not decreased or mellowed!

Having found one today at Canada Water, I initially thought that it looked quite nice in the new livery. However, when I got off the train at Highbury & Islington it looked absolutely awful. I think it's to do with perspective and light levels. I'm also not a big fan of the new moquette.

While a staunch supporter of the yellow panel, I have to say that in this particular case it could probably be entirely replaced with Overground Orange (which is quite a bright colour) as such a colour would still stand out from the black upper cab section and the Blue skirt below.

When it comes to external livery I must admit that my attitude is one of "meh, if thats what they want to do, then do it."

I neither like nor dislike. But I do not know why their two different fleets cant have different liveries.

What would impress me would be the fitting of proper electronic route information that includes a light next to every station yet to be reached, flashing lights for the next station and an indicator to show on which side the train's doors will open at the next station.

Even better would also be to have arrows pointing the direction of travel along the route and to use differently coloured station lights according to the stations which have been passed on that journey and stations yet to be called at on that journey.

I've seen this overseas for decades. If London's transports want to be seen as part of the "world class" transport networks they really should have had such systems from the get-go. I mean, 1995 Tube stock onwards.

In addition, the "next station" information should include bus routes too.

My aspirations on this matter have been created by seeing such technologies in operation overseas.

With respect to the Class 378 trains, removing the map of the entire Overground system will help reduce confusion, but with what I am advocating here (above) such would not have been necessary.

Simon