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Post by metman on May 27, 2019 19:15:09 GMT
Jonathan Fox is Director of London Rail which manages TfL's non-London Underground train services. He previously worked for British Rail, EWS Railways, Docklands Light Railway and was a founder member of Ultravox before going solo, reaching no.31 in the charts with "Underpass" in 1980  I know Jon Fox, used to play cricket with him many years ago. Anyway I can imagine that a solitary class 315 would not be ideal regarding spares and replacements. I wonder if an additional 710 will be provided for the Up-Rom shuttle. Anyway, shame to hear the 710 failed today but I guess that is also part and parcel of new stock introductions. |
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Post by goldenarrow on May 28, 2019 14:33:25 GMT
CoachAlex1996 filmed 710 107 on it's venture over former LTS metals to Fenchurch Street on an early hours test run.
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Post by ashlar on May 28, 2019 16:23:06 GMT
CoachAlex1996 filmed 710 107 on it's venture over former LTS metals to Fenchurch Street on an early hours test run. The 710/1 trains are the ones heading for the West Anglia Lines, aren't they? Good to see they are also making progress. Any idea how many have already been manufactured? |
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Post by goldenarrow on May 28, 2019 17:34:43 GMT
CoachAlex1996 filmed 710 107 on it's venture over former LTS metals to Fenchurch Street on an early hours test run. The 710/1 trains are the ones heading for the West Anglia Lines, aren't they? Good to see they are also making progress. Any idea how many have already been manufactured? The /1's are indeed part of the 30 or so units that will work the lines of Liverpool Street. No idea how many of this specific sub-group have been built though. |
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Post by futurix on May 30, 2019 13:53:34 GMT
Is there any way to find out whether there will be any 710s running in passenger service this weekend?
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Post by Chris M on May 30, 2019 14:25:49 GMT
Looking at real time trains for Saturday, there are currently only two trains an hour planned at Harringey Green Lanes which suggests no 710s. That could change though.
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Post by jswallow on May 31, 2019 11:52:34 GMT
The extras are now loaded into RTT so 710s should be out and about.
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Post by linus on May 31, 2019 14:30:33 GMT
Both RTT and NR are showing a full 15-minute interval service from Saturday 8th June. Albeit the NR site still has warnings that a reduced service is in operation!
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Post by superteacher on May 31, 2019 14:32:50 GMT
Both RTT and NR are showing a full 15-minute interval service from Saturday 8th June. Albeit the NR site still has warnings that a reduced service is in operation! I expect they are just covering themselves in case any units need to be withdrawn due to faults etc. |
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Post by silenthunter on May 31, 2019 21:15:23 GMT
The extras are now loaded into RTT so 710s should be out and about. 710 262 was at Barking this afternoon. |
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Post by linus on Jun 5, 2019 8:45:53 GMT
Both RTT and NR are showing a full 15-minute interval service from Saturday 8th June. Albeit the NR site still has warnings that a reduced service is in operation! And NR is showing 4 trains an hour on the Euston - Watford local from 22nd June (currently 3 trains an hour with a half hour gap). Presumably using either new 710(s) or getting a 378 back from the Goblin. |
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Post by silenthunter on Jun 5, 2019 15:21:20 GMT
Rode on a 710 today. There's a weird software bug that means the driver has to lock the doors before they can change ends...
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Post by goldenarrow on Jun 5, 2019 15:57:18 GMT
Rode on a 710 today. There's a weird software bug that means the driver has to lock the doors before they can change ends... I think this might explain what happened in this video... |
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Post by silenthunter on Jun 5, 2019 21:18:54 GMT
Yep, that had to happen at both ends.
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Post by snoggle on Jun 20, 2019 21:33:01 GMT
A short post to say that test train paths have been booked on the Watford DC line for evenings this week. However thus far none of them have been utilised for a variety of cancellation reasons.
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Post by snoggle on Jun 24, 2019 13:24:53 GMT
Looks like the GOBLIN timetable has been quietly restored to a 15 min headway from today. There are six trains operating on the line and a 15 min interval timetable seems to be being adherred to on realtimetrains. I can't say what trains are running as I'm not well enough to actually go and see the service in operation.
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Post by goldenarrow on Jun 24, 2019 18:53:18 GMT
Must be the third of the 710s that has been pressed into service, I don't recall 710 266 being around during the first week of passenger service.
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Post by snoggle on Jun 24, 2019 21:29:27 GMT
A short post to say that test train paths have been booked on the Watford DC line for evenings this week. However thus far none of them have been utilised for a variety of cancellation reasons. Just to reply to myself the first 710 on test has tonight made it to Euston station. It's also reached Watford Junction earlier and will be back there shortly. |
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Post by greatkingrat on Jul 8, 2019 14:17:31 GMT
The current status is that eight units are available for service. At the moment 4x710 and 2x378 are operating, the plan is that by 21st July the Goblin service will be entirely operated by Class 710s. The released 378s will then go to the DC to fill in the gaps in the timetable. So if there is anyone who wants to ride a class 378 on the Goblin who hasn't already done so, I'd advise you to go sooner rather than later.
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Post by spsmiler on Jul 8, 2019 23:05:02 GMT
It just so happens that earlier today I passed through Willesden Junction on a North London Line service and I noted that the three Class 378 carriages placed into store from the 378's currently on the Goblin route are still there.
btw, when will 710's be running in public service on the Watford Junction route?
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Post by Chris M on Jul 8, 2019 23:25:04 GMT
btw, when will 710's be running in public service on the Watford Junction route? Not until the ORR have signed them off for passenger use on DC power. |
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Post by rincew1nd on Jul 10, 2019 16:53:35 GMT
cl710 are now coming off the production line and being stored until such a time as they can be introduced to traffic:
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Post by ashlar on Jul 21, 2019 20:37:28 GMT
Goblin should be 100% Class 710 from tomorrow...
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Post by spsmiler on Jul 22, 2019 18:55:41 GMT
I was on the Goblin today and only saw 710's. I saw at least four Goblin trains.
We also had to wait outside Gospel Oak for the platform to clear before we could arrive at the station.
Two other observations today:
*As often happens the Goblin train is timetabled to depart just as a NLL train for Stratford arrives, which mean that pax see their train going just as they are arriving - maybe the faster acceleration of the 710's could allow a slightly later departure from here (to enable the cross-platform interchange) without affecting arrival time at Barking?
*The three orphaned 378 carriages are still in the siding at Willesden Junction, but there was only one 710 there with them (previously I have seen 2x or even 3x 710's here).
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Post by su31 on Jul 30, 2019 13:07:19 GMT
From the Romford Recorder newspaper:
Romford to Upminster line set to benefit from new train by end of 2019
The three-stop rail line between Romford and Upminster is set to benefit from an upgrade by the end of this year with the introduction of a new Crossrail-style train.
The new four-carriage train, complete with air conditioning, live network information displayed on screens and greater accessibility, will be fully interconnected, meaning passengers can walk its whole length.
It being built by transport giant Bombardier.
On Tuesday (July 23), the three-mile long line was forced to cancel almost seven hours of service when the only train currently operating on the route broke down just after 3pm.
The last scheduled service is meant to run at 10.03pm each weeknight.
In response to the disruption, London Underground tweeted to confirm that: "Brand new trains will be introduced on services later this year, but no confirmed date as yet."
The new train will be very similar in appearance to the new trains currently operating on the Barking to Gospel Oak line, although seating inside will be a mix of lengthwise and front and rear facing seating.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jul 30, 2019 15:24:36 GMT
seating inside will be a mix of lengthwise and front and rear facing seating. I thought both variants were now to be longitudinal seating throughout - at least that's what Wikipedia says. (and in Modern Railways about 18 months ago, it would seem from a thread on Rail UK Forums) |
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Post by peterc on Jul 30, 2019 17:15:42 GMT
seating inside will be a mix of lengthwise and front and rear facing seating. I thought both variants were now to be longitudinal seating throughout - at least that's what Wikipedia says. (and in Modern Railways about 18 months ago, it would seem from a thread on Rail UK Forums) You aren't the only one thinking that. But it could be that the PR people running the Twitter account are looking at an old spec but I hope not. |
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Post by stapler on Jul 30, 2019 21:04:06 GMT
I thought there may have been a 710 at the back of Ilford depot this morning,but couldn't quite see the ends.The west sidings had 2x315s, so I wondered if some cascading was imminent?
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Post by spsmiler on Jul 30, 2019 22:11:07 GMT
I thought there may have been a 710 at the back of Ilford depot this morning,but couldn't quite see the ends.The west sidings had 2x315s, so I wondered if some cascading was imminent? I saw one near the Ley Street bus terminus but do not know its number |
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Post by ashlar on Jul 31, 2019 7:08:13 GMT
I thought both variants were now to be longitudinal seating throughout - at least that's what Wikipedia says. (and in Modern Railways about 18 months ago, it would seem from a thread on Rail UK Forums) You aren't the only one thinking that. But it could be that the PR people running the Twitter account are looking at an old spec but I hope not. It has been confirmed by reputable sources that the 710/1 and 710/2 series will be identical internally, and transverse throughout. It would be nice if they’ve changed their mind, but I doubt it! Anyone manage to peer inside a 710/1 yet?! |
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