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Post by roman80 on Dec 13, 2016 21:37:48 GMT
Evening all. I am curious what is being done at Earls Court during the Christmas period this year. Is it related to the resignalling project? Or, I recall reading somewhere years ago about a plan to install new crossovers so trains from Wimbledon can access platform one. Or is it just general maintenance?
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Post by superteacher on Dec 13, 2016 22:15:03 GMT
Evening all. I am curious what is being done at Earls Court during the Christmas period this year. Is it related to the resignalling project? Or, I recall reading somewhere years ago about a plan to install new crossovers so trains from Wimbledon can access platform one. Or is it just general maintenance? The crossovers are being installed, but won't be in use until after the area is resignalled at some point in the future. Somebody may have a date. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2016 10:03:09 GMT
5a / 5b are being converted to Surelocks
New crossover 23a / 23b being installed but won't be commissioned until approx 6 to 8 weeks after the shutdown.
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Post by roythebus on Dec 18, 2016 4:11:17 GMT
It appears the closure will extend to Embankment on Boxing Day from later in the day. I'll be on the replacement bus service operated by Sullivan Buses on 3 days! Chelsea at home as well on Boxing Day just to add to the fun!
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Post by Dstock7080 on Dec 18, 2016 9:54:01 GMT
It appears the closure will extend to Embankment on Boxing Day from later in the day. The Upminster-Edgware Road train service operates on Boxing Day every 5mins. First trains through Embankment: 0747 WB 0749 EB |
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Post by DWS on Dec 18, 2016 11:30:44 GMT
It appears the closure will extend to Embankment on Boxing Day from later in the day. The Upminster-Edgware Road train service operates on Boxing Day every 5mins. First trains through Embankment: 0747 WB 0749 EB Are the Upminster drivers trained on the Gloucester Road to Edgware Road route ? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 11:55:06 GMT
The Upminster-Edgware Road train service operates on Boxing Day every 5mins. First trains through Embankment: 0747 WB 0749 EB Are the Upminster drivers trained on the Gloucester Road to Edgware Road route ? No, I understand Circle line drivers are taking over at South Kensington for the run to Edgware Road and back, before obviously handing back to District drivers. |
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Post by superteacher on Dec 18, 2016 12:03:10 GMT
So clearly there will be no D stock around from end of service Xmas Eve until New Years Eve, unless they stick one on the Ealing - Acton shuttle.
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Post by DWS on Dec 18, 2016 13:25:26 GMT
So clearly there will be no D stock around from end of service Xmas Eve until New Years Eve, unless they stick one on the Ealing - Acton shuttle. D stocks not allowed between High Street Kensington and Edgeware Road. |
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Post by Tom on Dec 18, 2016 13:40:45 GMT
5a / 5b are being converted to Surelocks New crossover 23a / 23b being installed but won't be commissioned until approx 6 to 8 weeks after the shutdown. Hopefully they'll be commissioned on the night of 14/1/17. |
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Post by superteacher on Dec 18, 2016 13:43:02 GMT
So clearly there will be no D stock around from end of service Xmas Eve until New Years Eve, unless they stick one on the Ealing - Acton shuttle. D stocks not allowed between High Street Kensington and Edgeware Road. My point exactly. |
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Post by Tom on Dec 18, 2016 14:13:50 GMT
It appears the closure will extend to Embankment on Boxing Day from later in the day. I'll be on the replacement bus service operated by Sullivan Buses on 3 days! Chelsea at home as well on Boxing Day just to add to the fun! The closure extends to Embankment on December 30th from 2130 until Start of Traffic on December 31st - this was at my request to allow unhindered testing of the control system modifications. |
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Post by uzairjubilee on Dec 27, 2016 18:47:52 GMT
About time the scissors crossover was put in! I'm genuinely very excited.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 20:57:44 GMT
You mean it's about time it was put back
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Post by DWS on Dec 27, 2016 21:01:59 GMT
About time the scissors crossover was put in! I'm genuinely very excited. Don't get to excited too soon, the new crossover number 23 will be not be used until after test trains have been run to check that the drivers can view the new signal etc This may not happen to mid January 2017. |
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Post by londonstuff on Dec 27, 2016 23:03:21 GMT
You mean it's about time it was put back Any idea when it was removed? (And why?) Will there need to be a new WTT in place before it gets used effectively? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 23:13:08 GMT
Yet again the District Twitter feed has done a great job of showing what is going on (Not that I know anything about points and what was there before)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 23:57:32 GMT
You mean it's about time it was put back Any idea when it was removed? (And why?) Will there need to be a new WTT in place before it gets used effectively? 01/02/1966 according to the bookwiring for the site no idea why it was removed in first place but was told a few years back that the programme machines couldn't cope and thus locking out other routes but now there is less trains as it used to be in the region of 40 TPH and now only approx. 32 TPH it should work. With the upgrade coming and trains able to run closer and faster it should work even better Yes a new WTT will need to be issued before its used as the programme machine timetable will need to be modified to allow a route to be cleared over the new junction |
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Post by londonstuff on Dec 28, 2016 1:21:52 GMT
Thanks for the info  It looks like the points are prefabricated and just dropped into position. Does this more or less happen in most locations nowadays? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 1:33:24 GMT
Yes as it irons out little problems and they are tested before hand to make sure everything does work but looking at the set up correctly on site there is no point machines installed as yet
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Post by DWS on Dec 28, 2016 2:35:08 GMT
The new route from the Wimbledon e/b line to platform number 1 will not be controlled by programme machine, it will be operated by the signaller at Earl's Court in Push Button mode only.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 4:03:24 GMT
If that is the case it won't be used much then
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Post by superteacher on Dec 28, 2016 7:46:06 GMT
When all is running to timetable, it won't be needed. It's only when trains ar running out of order or delayed that it will be useful. The biggest issue is when trains block the platform waiting for a late / missing crew relief. Currently, this means that trains from the Wimbledon branch have no choice but to sit and wait. At least from when the new crossover is commissioned, there will be the flexibility of using both eastbound platforms.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 11:24:17 GMT
About time the scissors crossover was put in! I'm genuinely very excited. Don't get to excited too soon, the new crossover number 23 will be not be used until after test trains have been run to check that the drivers can view the new signal etc This may not happen to mid January 2017. The signals are being commissioned Friday night as they are being moved 1m from there current location towards Earls Court plus a junction indicator on EC9b with a repeater at EC9a and a new repeater REC10.ECX693 is going in if the sighting committee doesn't like it then there will be no trains from Wimbledon |
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Post by uzairjubilee on Dec 28, 2016 17:04:46 GMT
When all is running to timetable, it won't be needed. It's only when trains ar running out of order or delayed that it will be useful. The biggest issue is when trains block the platform waiting for a late / missing crew relief. Currently, this means that trains from the Wimbledon branch have no choice but to sit and wait. At least from when the new crossover is commissioned, there will be the flexibility of using both eastbound platforms. Interesting. Trains do sit idle between West Brompton and ECT quite often though. |
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Post by rheostar on Dec 29, 2016 14:46:20 GMT
Thought you might be interested in the view from my office window this week. The tamper at work over the new crossover.   |
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Post by crusty54 on Dec 29, 2016 17:45:45 GMT
That must have been fun with the noise abatement order for Earl's Court.
I wonder if they moved the locals out.
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Post by rheostar on Dec 29, 2016 19:17:29 GMT
This picture taken in the 1930's shows how the scissor crossover used to look prior to being removed in the 60's.  |
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Post by John Tuthill on Dec 29, 2016 19:26:01 GMT
This picture taken in the 1930's shows how the scissor crossover used to look prior to being removed in the 60's. Brilliant photo, where did it come from? I wonder why the scissor was taken out of use? |
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Post by revupminster on Dec 29, 2016 20:09:08 GMT
That is a brilliant photo; before the offices for 'C' division (District and Piccadilly) were built alongside the walkway and the regulating room above the rotunda entrance. Also shows the canopy which I believe is almost impossible to take down hence this valuable air space has never been built over.
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