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Post by melikepie on Dec 7, 2014 22:21:55 GMT
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jun 22, 2015 13:44:44 GMT
Updated TfL webpage: linkversion of Night Tube map:  |
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Post by trt on Jun 22, 2015 14:16:19 GMT
That is one very low contrast poster. Hardly accessible to the visually impaired.
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Post by philthetube on Jun 22, 2015 15:32:03 GMT
There are currently no proposals to pay drivers extra to work night shifts, and as the extra night shifts will all involve weekend work, not likely
to be many volunteers
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 15:55:47 GMT
Updated TfL webpage: linkversion of Night Tube map: It's quite pretty in its way - and certainly 'funky' - but it's very hard to read. Hardly 'fit for purpose' (as I'm sure they would say in LU's boardrooms  ) |
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Post by seaeagle on Jun 22, 2015 16:07:14 GMT
There are currently no proposals to pay drivers extra to work night shifts, and as the extra night shifts will all involve weekend work, not likely to be many volunteers This is why the company are trying to impose it on staff, and hence why there is strike action looming on July 8th. |
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Post by rsdworker on Jun 22, 2015 16:38:45 GMT
looks nice but however that was hard to read - i prefer NYC's Subway night map design which is more clearer
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jun 22, 2015 17:03:53 GMT
It's quite pretty in its way - and certainly 'funky' - but it's very hard to read. Particularly in dim lighting, I would guess. Which is unfortunate given what it shows. |
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Post by stapler on Jun 22, 2015 17:12:12 GMT
"Free the night" might be misinterpreted as "free travel at night"!
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Post by domh245 on Jun 22, 2015 17:59:29 GMT
When displayed large scale, it appears to be alright - higher resolution version, and as far as I'm aware, this is about the only way in which it will be displayed, unless they are planning on bringing out pocket sized versions! As for "free the night" -> "free travel at night" I think that might be a step too far, even for someone who has had a few too many! |
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Post by trt on Jun 24, 2015 11:20:03 GMT
When displayed large scale, it appears to be alright - higher resolution version, and as far as I'm aware, this is about the only way in which it will be displayed, unless they are planning on bringing out pocket sized versions! As for "free the night" -> "free travel at night" I think that might be a step too far, even for someone who has had a few too many! I don't know, me old china. After a few tiddlys when you're a bit Brahms, you might think it's all for Christopher Lee. |
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Post by melikepie on Jun 24, 2015 21:32:36 GMT
According to Modern Railways July edition, the Night Tube is to be patrolled by more than 100 BTP officers from the get go.
There will also be a network of Rapid response vehicles
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Post by trt on Jun 25, 2015 10:24:53 GMT
According to Modern Railways July edition, the Night Tube is to be patrolled by more than 100 BTP officers from the get go. There will also be a network of Rapid response vehicles Sounds like an expensive operation for little revenue returned. |
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Post by towerman on Jul 10, 2015 11:50:26 GMT
When 24 hr running eventually arrives I take it that when a Saturday service is run on a Bank Holiday the 24 hr bit won't apply.
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Post by towerman on Jul 10, 2015 11:53:28 GMT
Talking of the 24 hr tube,did you see Bojo being interviewed yesterday?Idiot didn't even know the start date.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 12, 2015 8:22:00 GMT
When 24 hr running eventually arrives I take it that when a Saturday service is run on a Bank Holiday the 24 hr bit won't apply. The new Timetables are divided: Monday-Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday Saturday times start around 0200 at the top of the page. The next Bank Holiday Monday after Night Tube (should) start is 28 December and shows "a Saturday service will operate" |
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Post by snoggle on Jul 12, 2015 15:44:15 GMT
Talking of the 24 hr tube,did you see Bojo being interviewed yesterday?Idiot didn't even know the start date. I think that was a classic bit of Boris dissembling. By appearing to not know the start date it was a poor attempt to create the impression that the unions have less of a weapon in threatening to delay / stop a "flagship" policy. There's clearly an agreed line between TfL and City Hall to dampen down the importance of 12 September as the launch date. Mike Brown told the Assembly Transport Committee that TfL want to run the Night Tube "but not at any price" which rather suggests that they're prepared to dump it in the bin (for now) if the unions can't / won't reach an agreement. Tactically this puts in the TUs in the firing line for depriving Londoners of a service they apparently want. They can then be regularly slagged off for striking and for stopping Londoners enjoying themselves and stopping TfL creating new jobs. All grist to the mill if you want to introduce anti strike legislation. The trade union reps who've been on the telly have all been very careful to say they support the introduction of the Night Tube and that pay isn't the issue. Again all carefully crafted to try to divert as much public complaint as possible. One day I'll understand why LU and the TUs keep having the same ludicrous discussion about who presented what deal at what time with what deadline. Seen three TV interviews recently and each side accuses the other of lying. Completely bamboozling to the ordinary punter watching it on the telly. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2015 15:50:45 GMT
One day I'll understand why LU and the TUs keep having the same ludicrous discussion about who presented what deal at what time with what deadline. Seen three TV interviews recently and each side accuses the other of lying. Completely bamboozling to the ordinary punter watching it on the telly. You seem like a clever person, snoggle, but (or should that be, therefore?) I'm not quite sure you'll ever understand that one ...  |
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Post by snoggle on Jul 12, 2015 16:23:44 GMT
One day I'll understand why LU and the TUs keep having the same ludicrous discussion about who presented what deal at what time with what deadline. Seen three TV interviews recently and each side accuses the other of lying. Completely bamboozling to the ordinary punter watching it on the telly. You seem like a clever person, snoggle, but (or should that be, therefore?) I'm not quite sure you'll ever understand that one ... I'm not that clever. I think my brain is slowly melting away anyway but thanks for the compliment.  Oh many years ago I had to negotiate with the RMT over a fares revision change. They played all the usual tricks and games and that's fine. We got agreement in the end - I think they just wanted to watch a new person squirm and be worried for a few hours.   It's the "appearing rather daft on telly" aspect I don't really get. In the past the "old hands" were rather more nuanced with what they said but LU's Steve Griffiths hasn't quite got it. I've been impressed by Finn Brennan's stance tho - nice touch to do the "come for a coffee and chat after this TV interview" challenge on live TV. Rather puts the other chap on the spot. |
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Post by philthetube on Jul 12, 2015 18:16:22 GMT
If I was the Standard editor, I would give each side a column to fill with whatever they liked, give people chance to make proper decisions for themselves, and make everyone read the paper, if either side declined to take advantage that could be publicised, giving londoners chance to make their own decisions about it all.
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Post by rheostar on Jul 12, 2015 21:41:52 GMT
You seem like a clever person, snoggle, but (or should that be, therefore?) I'm not quite sure you'll ever understand that one ... I'm not that clever. I think my brain is slowly melting away anyway but thanks for the compliment. Oh many years ago I had to negotiate with the RMT over a fares revision change. They played all the usual tricks and games and that's fine. We got agreement in the end - I think they just wanted to watch a new person squirm and be worried for a few hours. It's the "appearing rather daft on telly" aspect I don't really get. In the past the "old hands" were rather more nuanced with what they said but LU's Steve Griffiths hasn't quite got it. I've been impressed by Finn Brennan's stance tho - nice touch to do the "come for a coffee and chat after this TV interview" challenge on live TV. Rather puts the other chap on the spot. I wonder if the likes of Steve Griffiths having been brought in from the 'outside' has something to do with it? In the past, most of our senior managers had came up 'through the ranks' so were well versed in the minefields of negotiating with the unions. They'd been duty managers, centurions, business managers etc so had cut their teeth in Level 1 and Level 2 meetings. Coming from outside, all this must be a bit of a culture shock. |
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Post by trt on Jul 13, 2015 10:14:06 GMT
If I was the Standard editor, I would give each side a column to fill with whatever they liked, give people chance to make proper decisions for themselves, and make everyone read the paper, if either side declined to take advantage that could be publicised, giving londoners chance to make their own decisions about it all. You'd face the handcuffs of your paymasters. The Standard are amongst the most anti-union media outlets of them all. Even the BBC fell into the trap of calling the strike a "walk-out" like it was some sort of homage to the Rag Trade or a Carry On film. |
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Post by abe on Jul 26, 2015 16:42:08 GMT
There's another Night Tube website available at www.nighttube.london. It's aimed at staff, but has been designed for use by the public as well. |
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Post by sawb on Aug 11, 2015 14:09:26 GMT
More strike dates announced: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-33866704The way the article is worded, it sounds like no talks are planned before the strikes and they're going ahead regardless. Is this the correct interpretation? |
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Post by snoggle on Aug 27, 2015 9:24:02 GMT
The media are reporting that introduction of the Night Tube on 12 Sept has been "delayed" to allow conclusion of negotiations with the Trade Unions. No date set, other than "later in the autumn", for the service to start. Also no word on the timing of the related night bus changes. TfL Press release |
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Post by stapler on Aug 27, 2015 15:52:51 GMT
<<something useful like Toilets>>
Bit of a rare bird on LU, I fear, and some are disgraceful--- but we can but hope (or use a clothes peg)!
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Post by superteacher on Aug 27, 2015 21:36:22 GMT
Never in doubt. And what a great bit of spin that press release is!
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Post by theblackferret on Aug 27, 2015 22:05:37 GMT
Never in doubt. And what a great bit of spin that press release is! Does the spin remind you of this? 'This parrot is dead!' 'Nah, he's not dead, guv, he's just resting!' |
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Post by spsmiler on Aug 27, 2015 23:59:40 GMT
<<something useful like Toilets>> Bit of a rare bird on LU, I fear, and some are disgraceful--- but we can but hope (or use a clothes peg)! I think it depends on who built that section of railway. Certainly they are rare in Central London but I've seen them at quite a few stations in suburban areas - especially those where the lines date from the steam train era. What would be useful here would be if stations with toilets were identified on maps. Simon |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 0:02:50 GMT
<<something useful like Toilets>> Bit of a rare bird on LU, I fear, and some are disgraceful--- but we can but hope (or use a clothes peg)! I think it depends on who built that section of railway. Certainly they are rare in Central London but I've seen them at quite a few stations in suburban areas - especially those where the lines date from the steam train era. What would be useful here would be if stations with toilets were identified on maps. Simon  |
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