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Post by Dom K on Sept 4, 2015 21:19:36 GMT
I'm sorry, I can't see what's so different to before! These residents are complaining for complainings sake!
So how do we think tfl did with the closure. What feedback would we give
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Post by snoggle on Sept 4, 2015 22:01:54 GMT
What? I can't see the Facebook content as I'm not on Facebook myself. I can't see how a new crossover and the same level of service is going to be that much noisier. Is the new ventilation working yet? Is that what is making the noise? |
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Post by rincew1nd on Sept 5, 2015 9:37:41 GMT
I can't see the content either, however I suspect it may be a case of noise returning to the previous level but it just being more noticeable now having gone from none to some.
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Post by londonstuff on Sept 5, 2015 10:20:46 GMT
This is what's said by one person, with twenty likes and a couple of comments. Obviously just one person's version of events, &c, &c.
LATEST UPDATE ON THE RECENT INCREASED TUBE NOISE PROBLEM IN WALTHAMSTOW
TFL sent their communications manager Mark Hart and a sound man to measure noise levels at our house and some others in our road and confirmed what we alreadydy knew, that the noise has risen to a unacceptable levels. Mark E mailed us tonight to say that they had obtained some "crucial data" and has submitted a report to TFL's directors and Track engineers and requested "mitigation" urgently. We still don't actually know what exactly is causing the increased noise except for the fact that they have replaced some track on the South bound line. Mark Hart was very kind and sympathetic and submitted his report within a few hours of leaving our house at 5pm, he will be updating us with the track engineers findings very soon.I just hope they can sort this problem asap.
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Post by snoggle on Sept 5, 2015 21:04:50 GMT
This is what's said by one person, with twenty likes and a couple of comments. Obviously just one person's version of events, &c, &c. LATEST UPDATE ON THE RECENT INCREASED TUBE NOISE PROBLEM IN WALTHAMSTOW TFL sent their communications manager Mark Hart and a sound man to measure noise levels at our house and some others in our road and confirmed what we alreadydy knew, that the noise has risen to a unacceptable levels. Mark E mailed us tonight to say that they had obtained some "crucial data" and has submitted a report to TFL's directors and Track engineers and requested "mitigation" urgently. We still don't actually know what exactly is causing the increased noise except for the fact that they have replaced some track on the South bound line. Mark Hart was very kind and sympathetic and submitted his report within a few hours of leaving our house at 5pm, he will be updating us with the track engineers findings very soon.I just hope they can sort this problem asap. Is there any reference anywhere to where these houses actually are? Last time I looked the line is umpteen feet underground and the line is not overflowing with vent shafts or other access point from which noise could escape. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2015 8:32:58 GMT
Is there any reference anywhere to where these houses actually are? Last time I looked the line is umpteen feet underground and the line is not overflowing with vent shafts or other access point from which noise could escape. I'm sure that back in 1969 when the line opened, the residents in the houses north of the High Street between Blackhorse Road and Walthamstow Central said that the could feel a vibration when the trains ran through. Edit: Duplicate (but blank) post removed by Londonstuff. |
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Post by ashlar on Sept 6, 2015 8:34:49 GMT
My understanding is that it is houses over the Victoria Line near Walthamstow High St. That fits with the location of the new crossover.
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Post by Chris M on Sept 6, 2015 9:48:04 GMT
solid ground is a much better conductor of sound than air.
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Post by stapler on Sept 6, 2015 9:52:29 GMT
I used to visit a house in Pretoria Avenue in the early 70s, and certainly the vibration and noise was really noticeable. At the time there was some talk of adapting the rail fixings
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Post by rincew1nd on Sept 10, 2015 22:00:59 GMT
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Post by snoggle on Sept 11, 2015 8:44:10 GMT
The Vic Line did a twitter session this week and the noise issue came up several times. Unforunately the lady replying was unaware of the noise problem which shows a lack of briefing and communication somewhere!! Now the local paper may have the quote wrong but I don't understand my old mate Mr McInulty's quote about needing to replace the rails. Surely they have just put in lots of new rail at the crossover? Is the problem simply that the rail *is* new and needs to wear slightly to get noise levels down? Je suis "confused of E17".  |
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Post by stapler on Sept 11, 2015 14:29:56 GMT
The lady who is quoted as saying "it's like a freight train going past your front door" has it about right, but the freight is human!
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Post by North End on Sept 11, 2015 16:53:12 GMT
The Vic Line did a twitter session this week and the noise issue came up several times. Unforunately the lady replying was unaware of the noise problem which shows a lack of briefing and communication somewhere!! Now the local paper may have the quote wrong but I don't understand my old mate Mr McInulty's quote about needing to replace the rails. Surely they have just put in lots of new rail at the crossover? Is the problem simply that the rail *is* new and needs to wear slightly to get noise levels down? Je suis "confused of E17". It could potentially increase or alter noise levels if speed has been increased, which presumably is part of the reason for doing the work. (Or more correctly restored to something more like its original speed, since the old crossover had a TSR on it for as long as I can remember). Alternatively, has any other work been done elsewhere in the section, for example rail grinding? |
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Post by snoggle on Sept 11, 2015 17:42:30 GMT
The Vic Line did a twitter session this week and the noise issue came up several times. Unforunately the lady replying was unaware of the noise problem which shows a lack of briefing and communication somewhere!! Now the local paper may have the quote wrong but I don't understand my old mate Mr McInulty's quote about needing to replace the rails. Surely they have just put in lots of new rail at the crossover? Is the problem simply that the rail *is* new and needs to wear slightly to get noise levels down? Je suis "confused of E17". It could potentially increase or alter noise levels if speed has been increased, which presumably is part of the reason for doing the work. (Or more correctly restored to something more like its original speed, since the old crossover had a TSR on it for as long as I can remember). Alternatively, has any other work been done elsewhere in the section, for example rail grinding? I've only been across the crossover once since the completion of the work. It was a journey arriving at WWCS and my sense was that it was marginally faster than in the past but I accept that is in no way a representative or accurate sample. I also thought it was slightly noisier but again that's not an objective measure. |
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Post by jimini on Sept 15, 2015 11:45:07 GMT
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Post by stapler on Sept 15, 2015 16:15:52 GMT
Of course, the residents of that part of Walthamstow are far more media-savvy than their predecessors of 1968! Expect complaints to continue...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 17:20:21 GMT
It's just been on the ITV London News and apparently it's a " miss aligned joint" that wouldn't cause the rumble surely ?
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Post by snoggle on Oct 9, 2015 9:32:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2015 19:32:22 GMT
Regarding the Walthamstow Central upgrade, my assumption is that the brick wall that was buit on the platform side can quickly be dismantled. Logic tells me that as soon as this happens then all three gatelines would be brought into operation and the old gateline at the top of the escalators removed. I sure this would happen sooner than later.
I made this comment back in August regarding Walthamstow so have now been proved wrong! I think it was mentioned the the new gates will not be brought into operation until the escalator refurb is completed, my question is, that during the blockade why didn't they knock down the brick wall that forces people out of the station and back in via the station square to the Victoria line staircase? after all the old entrance to the staircase is under the platform canopy and most people alighting from the overground train could avoid getting wet but with the onset of winter all the passengers will have to troop out of the station and back in again.
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Post by stapler on Oct 24, 2015 9:10:04 GMT
Logic has not been the strong point of anyone dealing with WC in the last year or so.
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