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Post by londonstuff on Aug 25, 2015 21:42:26 GMT
Lots of photos and an explanation of the work going on in Walthamstow by Ianvisits. Clicky
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Post by superteacher on Aug 25, 2015 22:19:45 GMT
A very interesting article, thanks.
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Post by Dom K on Aug 25, 2015 22:20:07 GMT
Lots of photos and an explanation of the work going on in Walthamstow by Ianvisits. ClickyI've been keeping an eye on the Victoria Line Twitter feed which has been posting pictures! The link however is just as, if not more informative
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Post by stapler on Aug 26, 2015 7:44:20 GMT
It'll be only too soon now before the complaints start flooding in from Tottenham, West Green, our late member Pridley, etc that there are no more nice empty trains starting at Seven Sisters. LU will have to start terminating a few there to satisfy them..........
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Post by Dom K on Aug 26, 2015 8:12:02 GMT
It'll be only too soon now before the complaints start flooding in from Tottenham, West Green, our late member Pridley, etc that there are no more nice empty trains starting at Seven Sisters. LU will have to start terminating a few there to satisfy them.......... Sorry what is this referring to? EDIT For a moment I thought you were referring to the LO lines. I see what you mean. Scrap my question!
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Post by seaeagle on Aug 28, 2015 7:13:18 GMT
It'll be only too soon now before the complaints start flooding in from Tottenham, West Green, our late member Pridley, etc that there are no more nice empty trains starting at Seven Sisters. LU will have to start terminating a few there to satisfy them.......... lol You'll still have staff trains and trains coming out of the depot, and no doubt trains reversing there when the job goes up the wall!
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Post by superteacher on Aug 28, 2015 8:03:02 GMT
Although isn't the plan to have no Seven Sisters reversers during the peak?
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Post by towerman on Aug 28, 2015 11:32:31 GMT
Bit different from the first 5 or 6 years of the Victoria Line then it was one train in three to Walthamstow off peak.
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Post by superteacher on Aug 28, 2015 12:40:20 GMT
Bit different from the first 5 or 6 years of the Victoria Line then it was one train in three to Walthamstow off peak. Wasn't it a 15 min service on Sunday?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Aug 28, 2015 16:01:41 GMT
Although isn't the plan to have no Seven Sisters reversers during the peak? New internal email received today say the works at Walthamstow have finished early, ahead of schedule. The plan now is for WTT39 from 24 April, "34tph end to end service, peak service runs for circa 90 minutes". WTT40 from "Nov 2016, 36tph end to end service, peak service runs for circa 90 minutes."
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Post by Dom K on Aug 28, 2015 16:08:33 GMT
You would presume that they will run some test trains over the weekend if they haven't already!
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Post by DWS on Aug 28, 2015 16:20:23 GMT
You would presume that they will run some test trains over the weekend if they haven't already! Yes test trains have been booked to run.
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Post by snoggle on Aug 28, 2015 19:30:31 GMT
Bit different from the first 5 or 6 years of the Victoria Line then it was one train in three to Walthamstow off peak. Wasn't it a 15 min service on Sunday? I certainly remember the old northbound pattern on Sundays if you were between Victoria and Kings Cross - it went KX terminator, Seven Sisters and then Walthamstow each on a x12 headway giving x4 across the centre and 4-8 north of KX. I used to hate having to wait 12 minutes for a Vic Line - utterly ridiculous even back in the 1980s. I believe the Walthamstow services typically started at Victoria so not even a through service end to end. I see in another posting the work's finished early. Well no great surprise there then - clearly had a slice of float in the programme as you would expect on such a big job.
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Post by stapler on Aug 28, 2015 21:10:17 GMT
<utterly ridiculous in the 1980s...>>
Yes, and they invariably arrived at W'stow with the tail lamps of a Chingford disappearing north; 29 more minutes to wait!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 16:39:23 GMT
Good service has resumed.
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Post by ashlar on Aug 29, 2015 16:40:19 GMT
I'm hearing that the work has finished early and Walthamstow Central has reopened.
Did they remove the ticket office and move the gate line as rumoured?
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Post by will on Aug 29, 2015 17:19:05 GMT
Will they run 34tph on the whole line now or will they start running all northbound trains to Walthamstow when the 36tph timetable is introduced?
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Post by superteacher on Aug 29, 2015 17:25:00 GMT
Will they run 34tph on the whole line now or will they start running all northbound trains to Walthamstow when the 36tph timetable is introduced? Have a look at DStock7080's post on the previous page.
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Post by will on Aug 29, 2015 17:31:23 GMT
Although isn't the plan to have no Seven Sisters reversers during the peak? New internal email received today say the works at Walthamstow have finished early, ahead of schedule. The plan now is for WTT39 from 24 April, "34tph end to end service, peak service runs for circa 90 minutes". WTT40 from "Nov 2016, 36tph end to end service, peak service runs for circa 90 minutes." Why the sudden change in plan? Are there infrastructure issues that need to be addressed elsewhere before 36tph can run?
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Post by Dom K on Aug 29, 2015 17:34:37 GMT
New internal email received today say the works at Walthamstow have finished early, ahead of schedule. The plan now is for WTT39 from 24 April, "34tph end to end service, peak service runs for circa 90 minutes". WTT40 from "Nov 2016, 36tph end to end service, peak service runs for circa 90 minutes." Why the sudden change in plan? Are there infrastructure issues that need to be addressed elsewhere before 36tph can run? I suspect it's just down to planning, staff Schedules etc. I would expect them to test out 36tph before Nov16.
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Post by snoggle on Aug 30, 2015 9:53:51 GMT
A quick Walthamstow Central update having had a quick look this morning.
No great change at surface level except the "cage" has gone from the Chingford platform. Ticket gates not switched on at the Overground entrances. No sign that the old interchange "hole in the wall" on the Liv St platform is being worked on (at least from the platform side).
At LU level the ticket gates remain in operation as before. The ticket office is shut and the windows are stickered over. The POM enclosure has been removed and tiled over. A new gateline has been installed in the subway link just to the south of the fire doors. There are two wide walkways and two normal walkways. It is not switched on yet. The POM enclosure has craftily been moved under the flight of stairs to the Bus Station - one MFM and 2 FFMs. Posters and lealfet racks have also moved near the bottom of the bus station stairs. An interesting compromise but any length of queues at the ticket machines will block access to / from the lift to the bus station.
The up escalator is hoarded off and being worked on so that'll cause lots of lovely queues and congestion upstairs and down.
My guess is that TfL is possibly waiting until it can complete the surface works at WWCS to recreate open interchange with the Chingford Line. I also wonder if they are waiting to see other stations on the Chingford Line be gated to reduce the risk of people entering elsewhere and having open access to the Vic Line. In short a fair bit of work has been done but more remains to be done.
Oh and no sign of rail replacement buses except the direction signs for the drivers and a lonely hi-vied chap at the Market bus stop with no one to help!
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Post by ashlar on Aug 30, 2015 10:06:26 GMT
Thanks for the update.
I think this confirms that the whole station will now be behind three gatelines as was conjectured. A significant improvement over the farce of the cage!
The "hole-in-the-wall" exit by the taxi office provides a convenient entrance for the construction workers so I wonder if sealing it off will have to wait until the escalators are complete.
The losers in this will be the folks who use the tunnel as a short cut from Walthamstow Town Centre to the flats on the station car park. I wonder if touching in and out to cross the tunnel will be charged a fare.
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Post by Dom K on Aug 30, 2015 12:29:02 GMT
I did consider going this way on my way to work this morning (to Stratford via route 97) but instead stuck to the RRS at Hackney Wick which if anyone is interested was Arriva Wood Green's HV110
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Post by Dom K on Aug 30, 2015 12:31:35 GMT
Thanks for the update. I think this confirms that the whole station will now be behind three gatelines as was conjectured. A significant improvement over the farce of the cage! The "hole-in-the-wall" exit by the taxi office provides a convenient entrance for the construction workers so I wonder if sealing it off will have to wait until the escalators are complete. The losers in this will be the folks who use the tunnel as a short cut from Walthamstow Town Centre to the flats on the station car park. I wonder if touching in and out to cross the tunnel will be charged a fare. If you touch in and out as you suggested, I think the second reader would override the first one and remain as just an entry I think. I'm happy to be corrected on this one
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 14:19:13 GMT
Thanks for the update. I think this confirms that the whole station will now be behind three gatelines as was conjectured. A significant improvement over the farce of the cage! The "hole-in-the-wall" exit by the taxi office provides a convenient entrance for the construction workers so I wonder if sealing it off will have to wait until the escalators are complete. The losers in this will be the folks who use the tunnel as a short cut from Walthamstow Town Centre to the flats on the station car park. I wonder if touching in and out to cross the tunnel will be charged a fare. If you touch in and out as you suggested, I think the second reader would override the first one and remain as just an entry I think. I'm happy to be corrected on this one Regarding the Walthamstow Central upgrade, I also thought that the new entrance from the stairs on platform 1 into the station square could be reused in future for any engineering purposes. This is on the assumption that the brick wall that was buit on the platform side can quickly be dismantled. If it is taken down and now that the cage has gone, things will be back to how they were. Logic tells me that as soon as this happens then all three gatelines would be brought into operation and the old gateline at the top of the escalators removed. I sure this would happen sooner than later because reading previous comments, the escalator refurb is going to take until next April and the gating of other Chigford line stations is going to take even longer. One other benefit of creating the exit to the station square was that passengers could gain access to platform 1 whilst the old booking hall was being refurbed although I think that it was finished before the blockade started. Once again I would like to know who funded the "the Hole in the wall' and 'the cage' what a waste of money.
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Post by Chris M on Aug 31, 2015 23:20:35 GMT
If you touch in and out as you suggested, I think the second reader would override the first one and remain as just an entry I think. I'm happy to be corrected on this one It will depend on the programming of the machines. At Canary Wharf Jubilee there are signs noting that if you walk through the station (crossing two gatelines) you will be charged the maximum fare. This used to be the case at Southwark but iirc there is now something more complicated in place.
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Post by stapler on Sept 1, 2015 7:00:21 GMT
Turntable -- who funded the cage and blocked exit? I'm tempted to say, in his dotage, the same person who as an apprentice did the refurb of West Green Station and closed it 3 months later!
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Post by towerman on Sept 4, 2015 12:06:21 GMT
Bit different from the first 5 or 6 years of the Victoria Line then it was one train in three to Walthamstow off peak. Wasn't it a 15 min service on Sunday? Was every 12 mins Mon-Fri between peaks & Saturdays until 20:00,every 15 mins Mon-Sat after 20:00 & all day Sunday
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Post by ashlar on Sept 4, 2015 19:17:20 GMT
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Post by rsdworker on Sept 4, 2015 19:57:10 GMT
well TFL needs install soundproofing tunnels then
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