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Post by paulsw2 on Feb 17, 2016 12:51:12 GMT
On Friday I was on a train that went into wrong platform at Gloucester Road as a result the train had to go via High St Ken to Earl's Court resulting in 7007 being on the west end I had my hands full so was unable to get a picture I don't know if it has been "re-reversed" so it back the correct way round
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Post by Dstock7080 on Feb 17, 2016 12:58:07 GMT
On Friday I was on a train that went into wrong platform at Gloucester Road as a result the train had to go via High St Ken to Earl's Court resulting in 7007 being on the west end I had my hands full so was unable to get a picture I don't know if it has been "re-reversed" so it back the correct way round It was back the right way round on Saturday, with 7024+7007 as T12.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 15:15:30 GMT
The joys of taking out 228 points at Gloucester Road
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Post by DWS on Feb 17, 2016 17:01:27 GMT
The joys of taking out 228 points at Gloucester Road One less set of points to fail,
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 17:37:11 GMT
They were fine never used apart from 1 move per day.
On a bit of a rant here but if the timetabling section and the signal ops used more and more of the routes available to them the equipment would get used more and less likely to fail.
To be fair though apart from Harrow on the Hill which suffers in the hot weather we don't have many point failures. When a area gets upgraded you do expect some teething problems whilst the points are bedding in but on the whole most of them are reliable.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Feb 17, 2016 20:49:11 GMT
On Friday I was on a train that went into wrong platform at Gloucester Road as a result the train had to go via High St Ken to Earl's Court resulting in 7007 being on the west end It was back the right way round on Saturday They probably unreversed it the same way on its next trip back. Presumably the driver had signed for that side of the triangle? Other than if you want to remarshal the units, is there actually a problem with a D stock being back to front?
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Post by superteacher on Feb 17, 2016 20:55:53 GMT
Are District drivers signed on the Circle between Gloucester Road and HSK?
Also, is there a planned order of withdrawal for the D stock? How long does 7000 have left?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Feb 17, 2016 21:32:59 GMT
Are District drivers signed on the Circle between Gloucester Road and HSK? Also, is there a planned order of withdrawal for the D stock? How long does 7000 have left? District drivers are not trained between Gloucester Road and High Street or return. 7000 is one of the useful de-icing units and very few (only two, 7010 to RAT and the non-standard 7008) have been withdrawn. The double-enders will also be some of the last to go.
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Post by superteacher on Feb 17, 2016 21:36:09 GMT
Are District drivers signed on the Circle between Gloucester Road and HSK? Also, is there a planned order of withdrawal for the D stock? How long does 7000 have left? District drivers are not trained between Gloucester Road and High Street or return. 7000 is one of the useful de-icing units and very few (only two, 7010 to RAT and the non-standard 7008) have been withdrawn. The double-enders will also be some of the last to go. Is that likely to change in the future when all trains are S stock? It may be useful when there is an issue at Earls Court. There was also a rumour that Upminster and Barking crews would be signed off from Earls Court to Edgware Road.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Feb 17, 2016 21:58:07 GMT
District drivers are not trained between Gloucester Road and High Street or return. So who turned it round again?
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Post by superteacher on Feb 17, 2016 22:08:59 GMT
So who turned it round again? Probably piloted by a H&C / Circle driver.
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Post by Chris M on Feb 17, 2016 23:17:14 GMT
District drivers are not trained between Gloucester Road and High Street or return. 7000 is one of the useful de-icing units and very few (only two, 7010 to RAT and the non-standard 7008) have been withdrawn. The double-enders will also be some of the last to go. Is that likely to change in the future when all trains are S stock? It may be useful when there is an issue at Earls Court. There was also a rumour that Upminster and Barking crews would be signed off from Earls Court to Edgware Road. I've read somewhere on this forum (I don't have time atm to search for it) that all District line crews would be road trained on all of the District line (presumably when the S stock roll-out is complete). There was talk of training District drivers on the Gloucester Road to HSK side of the triangle, but last I recall that was being considered but hadn't been decided. I can't remember if C&H crews are road trained on the Tower Hill to Aldgate East stretch, but if they aren't it would make sense for them to be so if the District Line drivers are being trained per above.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 0:11:38 GMT
Is that likely to change in the future when all trains are S stock? It may be useful when there is an issue at Earls Court. There was also a rumour that Upminster and Barking crews would be signed off from Earls Court to Edgware Road. I've read somewhere on this forum (I don't have time atm to search for it) that all District line crews would be road trained on all of the District line (presumably when the S stock roll-out is complete). There was talk of training District drivers on the Gloucester Road to HSK side of the triangle, but last I recall that was being considered but hadn't been decided. I can't remember if C&H crews are road trained on the Tower Hill to Aldgate East stretch, but if they aren't it would make sense for them to be so if the District Line drivers are being trained per above. I think they are as when Whitechapel was still a proper reversing point every now and again a circle would get turned to go in the opposite direction. Also I think but not 100% one of the last circles on the Inner road go via Tower Hill and Aldgate East to Barking to stable
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 1:48:44 GMT
I've read somewhere on this forum (I don't have time atm to search for it) that all District line crews would be road trained on all of the District line (presumably when the S stock roll-out is complete). There was talk of training District drivers on the Gloucester Road to HSK side of the triangle, but last I recall that was being considered but hadn't been decided. I can't remember if C&H crews are road trained on the Tower Hill to Aldgate East stretch, but if they aren't it would make sense for them to be so if the District Line drivers are being trained per above. I think they are as when Whitechapel was still a proper reversing point every now and again a circle would get turned to go in the opposite direction. Also I think but not 100% one of the last circles on the Inner road go via Tower Hill and Aldgate East to Barking to stable I couldn't find any reference to that, however, Train 206's first trip of the day is Barking Sidings 24 rd to Barking, to Aldgate East, to Tower Hill to Edgware Road. Departs Aldgate East at 05 38½ and Tower Hill 05b41½.
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Post by superteacher on Feb 18, 2016 8:15:23 GMT
H&C / Circle crews ar definitely signed for Tower Hill to Aldgate East.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Feb 18, 2016 10:06:36 GMT
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Post by Colin on Feb 18, 2016 18:44:06 GMT
There was also a rumour that Upminster and Barking crews would be signed off from Earls Court to Edgware Road. That is still just a rumour at the moment.
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Post by graeme186 on Feb 28, 2016 21:57:42 GMT
Still plenty of 'D' stock interest at weekends. Noted in service today 020+053, 070+500, 011+106, 012+031, 037+502, 006+538, 000+536, 022+093, 042+516, 032+108, 050+512, 079+504, 007+024, 048+534, 034+115, 016+101, 004+017, 018+061, 002+111, 046+518
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Post by superteacher on Mar 1, 2016 19:39:25 GMT
Anyone know when 7115 or 7534 are due to go? Last units to go for refurb. Reminds me of Dave driving them back in 2008.
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Post by marjoram on Mar 4, 2016 20:24:49 GMT
Ninety minutes on a windswept Stamford Brook produced the following D stock combinations today: 7070 + 7500/1, 7037 + 7502/3, 7006 + 7538/9, 7017 + 7004, 7042 + 7516/7, 7101 + 7016, 7031 +7012, 7048 + 7534/5, 7115 + 7034, 7051 + 7512/3, 7020 + 7053, 7026 + 7109, 7014 + 7005, 7007 + 7508/9, 7079 + 7504/5, 7097 + 7024, 7018 + 7061, 7506/7 + ? and finally at Embankment I noticed 7107 + 7040 on a Tower Hill service.
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Post by PGtrips on Mar 7, 2016 15:52:50 GMT
Roughly what proportion of the service is D and S at the moment on an average weekday?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 7, 2016 16:34:11 GMT
Roughly what proportion of the service is D and S at the moment on an average weekday? Mon-Fri off-peak, 21 trains are nominated for D Stock working (28 AM peak), although others can run. 62 trains are scheduled to be in service M-F off-peak (75 peak).
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Post by superteacher on Mar 7, 2016 19:07:04 GMT
Roughly what proportion of the service is D and S at the moment on an average weekday? Mon-Fri off-peak, 21 trains are nominated for D Stock working (28 AM peak), although others can run. 62 trains are scheduled to be in service M-F off-peak (75 peak). Although with only 32 D stocks left, it's unlikely that there will be the full quota of 28 in service.
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Post by marjoram on Mar 8, 2016 19:42:29 GMT
Mon-Fri off-peak, 21 trains are nominated for D Stock working (28 AM peak), although others can run. 62 trains are scheduled to be in service M-F off-peak (75 peak). Although with only 32 D stocks left, it's unlikely that there will be the full quota of 28 in service. And today all 21 trains produced the 21 diagrammed D stock units! Between 11.20am and 14.00 units seen, in order, at South Kensington were: 7046 + 7518/9, 7007 + 7508/9, 7000 + 7536/7, 7048 + 7534/5, 7038 + 7506/7, 7042 + 7516/7, 7079 + 7504/5, 7022 + 7093, 7026 + 7109, 7107 + 7040, 7034 + 7115, 7014 + 7005, 7053 + 7020, 7017 + 7004, 7006 + 7538/9, 7108 + 7033, 7024 + 7097, 7044 + 7099, 7012 + 7031, 7037 + 7502/3 and 7051 + 7512/13. Richard M. (now attempting to thaw out a little)>
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Post by superteacher on Mar 8, 2016 19:52:23 GMT
Although with only 32 D stocks left, it's unlikely that there will be the full quota of 28 in service. And today all 21 trains produced the 21 diagrammed D stock units! Between 11.20am and 14.00 units seen, in order, at South Kensington were: 7046 + 7518/9, 7007 + 7508/9, 7000 + 7536/7, 7048 + 7534/5, 7038 + 7506/7, 7042 + 7516/7, 7079 + 7504/5, 7022 + 7093, 7026 + 7109, 7107 + 7040, 7034 + 7115, 7014 + 7005, 7053 + 7020, 7017 + 7004, 7006 + 7538/9, 7108 + 7033, 7024 + 7097, 7044 + 7099, 7012 + 7031, 7037 + 7502/3 and 7051 + 7512/13. Richard M. (now attempting to thaw out a little)>
Wonder how many D's came out in the peak?
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Post by marjoram on Mar 9, 2016 10:43:42 GMT
And today all 21 trains produced the 21 diagrammed D stock units! Between 11.20am and 14.00 units seen, in order, at South Kensington were: 7046 + 7518/9, 7007 + 7508/9, 7000 + 7536/7, 7048 + 7534/5, 7038 + 7506/7, 7042 + 7516/7, 7079 + 7504/5, 7022 + 7093, 7026 + 7109, 7107 + 7040, 7034 + 7115, 7014 + 7005, 7053 + 7020, 7017 + 7004, 7006 + 7538/9, 7108 + 7033, 7024 + 7097, 7044 + 7099, 7012 + 7031, 7037 + 7502/3 and 7051 + 7512/13. Richard M. (now attempting to thaw out a little)>
Wonder how many D's came out in the peak? Yes it would be nice to know the identity of the additional peak units.........................I have been looking for 7102, 7530/1 and 7532/3 for weeks now!
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 9, 2016 13:00:24 GMT
I have been looking for 7102, 7530/1 and 7532/3 for weeks now! 7102 was withdrawn from service towards the end of October 2015 and departed London in early November.
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Post by marjoram on Mar 9, 2016 17:54:25 GMT
I have been looking for 7102, 7530/1 and 7532/3 for weeks now! 7102 was withdrawn from service towards the end of October 2015 and departed London in early November. Oops, sorry Dstock7080, I meant to type 7105. Thanks for bothering, however.
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Post by graeme186 on Mar 13, 2016 22:13:43 GMT
Noted today Sunday 13th March in service 033+108, 005-014, 075+530, 012+031, 046+518, 026+109, 095+526, 020+053, 048+534, 006+538, 002+111, 022+093, 007+508, 038+506, 034+115
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Post by marjoram on Mar 14, 2016 20:30:15 GMT
Due to severe problems at the Upminster end of the District this morning, my plans to try and see all the remaining off-peak D stock workings were somewhat upset - in the wrong place at the wrong time! However, the workings I did manage to see produced: 7037 + 7502/3, 7006 + 7538/9, 7020 + 7053, 7021 + 7520/1, 7026 + 7109, 7038 + 7506/7, 7016 + 7101, 7007 + 7508/9, 7032 + 7057, 7002 + 7111, 7022 + 7093, 7018 + 7061, and 7000 + 7536/7.
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