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Post by kabsonline on May 11, 2012 9:27:36 GMT
What was the Vic Line offering? Sorry if thats a question everyone knows the answer to but I don't lol  |
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Post by v52gc on May 11, 2012 10:21:59 GMT
From recollection the A stock is cleared out of service to Acton Town, but has a speed limit imposed as the train passes under one of the bridges (I think somewhere in the Sudbury area). Not sure if that’s still the case. I would also assume that the length of an 8 car train might pose a problem with the signaling if they needed to turn it East to West. Off topic but just to let you know there is the space for an right car A stock to do a mainline shunt E-W at South Harrow as the sidings there are too short. Even a tour round the Met Line would be a nice farewell, or run it twice as a four car... |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2012 14:31:20 GMT
What about a run down the coast on Network rail or do they need the 4th return rail? Sarah Siddons did a run to either Portsmouth or Folkestone some years back.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2012 19:32:43 GMT
Would need conversion similiar to Sarah Siddons recieved to do that, but dont forget, the trains are the widest in the UK so clearance is a huge issue.
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Post by causton on May 18, 2012 18:07:15 GMT
Just haul it down with a battery loco... to the scrapyard. Then haul an S stock to get back to London  |
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Post by v52gc on May 18, 2012 21:30:08 GMT
What about a run down the coast on Network rail or do they need the 4th return rail? Sarah Siddons did a run to either Portsmouth or Folkestone some years back. That would be fun though! |
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Post by 1018509 on May 18, 2012 21:35:43 GMT
Is there any scope to operate a tour down the Piccadilly Line, at least to Acton Town? I don't think so, as the train that had the wrong route set at Rayners Lane on 5th December 2009 (with 5080 on the south end - I was on it) had to be reversed back to Rayners instead of running to South Harrow, and I seem to remember the reason was more to do with the stock not being cleared down there than the driver not being trained on the route. Maybe someone can find the thread about that. Regardless of clearance issues it is surely better to do a quick reverse in the platform at Rayners Lane rather than run to South Harrow and back and then reverse again at Rayners Lane |
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Post by 1018509 on May 18, 2012 21:39:43 GMT
Talking about clearance, was the 67ts actually cleared for passengers to Uxbridge and Ealing Broadway? As Uxbridre takes A stock and 1973 stock and Ealing Broadway D and C stock why would a 1967 tube be out of gauge? |
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Post by 21146 on May 18, 2012 22:00:53 GMT
It's not been forgotten about but I've been asked not to say any more at the moment.
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Post by allan60 on Jun 10, 2012 21:05:38 GMT
As mentioned on another thread, Is there even going to be a farewell tour of the A stock?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jun 10, 2012 21:26:15 GMT
As mentioned on another thread, Is there even going to be a farewell tour of the A stock? A farewell Tour using A Stock, yes. A farewell tour of A Stock can be done anytime while in service |
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Post by Fahad on Jun 10, 2012 21:40:46 GMT
Would need conversion similiar to Sarah Siddons recieved to do that, but dont forget, the trains are the widest in the UK so clearance is a huge issue. The GWR and GCR, like the Met, have a generous loading gauge, hence the additional width of the class 165 Is the extra width of the 165 similar to that of the A? Can an A stock run (loco-hauled) to Aylesbury or Calvert? How about, via the Ruislip depot siding, the Chiltern Main? If it went to Banbury, it could go down the GWR as well |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2012 7:39:09 GMT
They were delivered by rail because the Great Central Railway was still open, now that is closed. Afaik this is why they cannot go back up north by rail.
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Post by castlebar on Jun 11, 2012 8:45:28 GMT
@ bronzeonion
Whereas you are correct, PART of the GC is still available and surely this could be used to prevent the nonsense of having to change lorries because of the London Vehicle Emissions Zone. I am certain that any former GW track that was formerly broad gauge could also have been used and so it would have been possible to have moved the stock via rail to somewhere such as Quainton, Banbury or wherever to have prevented the current nonsense of having to change lorries in lay-bys on the M1
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Post by jardine01 on Jun 11, 2012 8:48:49 GMT
Sorry if this has been said elsewhere but how many A stocks are now in service?
On my visit to London there was endless supplies of S stocks only a handful of A stocks!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2012 13:46:33 GMT
Sorry if this has been said elsewhere but how many A stocks are now in service? On my visit to London there was endless supplies of S stocks only a handful of A stocks! Yes it was mentioned in A-stock withdrawals thread that 7 was in service on Saturday.. |
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Post by andypurk on Jun 11, 2012 17:23:30 GMT
Would need conversion similiar to Sarah Siddons recieved to do that, but dont forget, the trains are the widest in the UK so clearance is a huge issue. The GWR and GCR, like the Met, have a generous loading gauge, hence the additional width of the class 165 Is the extra width of the 165 similar to that of the A? Can an A stock run (loco-hauled) to Aylesbury or Calvert? How about, via the Ruislip depot siding, the Chiltern Main? If it went to Banbury, it could go down the GWR as well The A stock is actually wider than the 165 stock (~2.9m compared to ~2.8m). However, pure width isn't the only factor but where the wide points of the relevant stock are and vehicle lengths etc. are also important. |
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Post by metrailway on Jun 11, 2012 18:41:21 GMT
They were delivered by rail because the Great Central Railway was still open, now that is closed. Afaik this is why they cannot go back up north by rail. Actually they can go back up North by rail. During refurbishment the A's were transported to/from Derby by rail. The S Stock is 2.92m wide and it's longest cars are 17.44m long and is being transported by rail. The A Stock is 2.946m wide but it's length per car is at 16.17m. I'm sure if there was a will they would be able to transport the A's by rail again. Would need conversion similiar to Sarah Siddons recieved to do that, but dont forget, the trains are the widest in the UK so clearance is a huge issue. The GWR and GCR, like the Met, have a generous loading gauge, hence the additional width of the class 165 Is the extra width of the 165 similar to that of the A? Can an A stock run (loco-hauled) to Aylesbury or Calvert? How about, via the Ruislip depot siding, the Chiltern Main? If it went to Banbury, it could go down the GWR as well The width of the 165/166s alone is not the problem. They are 2.81m wide the same as Classes 365, 465, 466. It's the width plus the length which makes the turbos need a more generous loading gauge. The longest cars in 165/166s are 22.91m long whilst for 365/465/466s it is 20.89m. Well Class 37s were employed before... |
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Post by ianvisits on Jun 19, 2012 16:17:49 GMT
I've been informed that there will be a farewell event after the Olympics for the last train.
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Post by vinnielo on Jun 19, 2012 18:33:25 GMT
No doubt it'll coincide with when I'm out of the country!
Hope it's after August.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2012 21:07:00 GMT
I was looking at the Friends of the London Transport Museum website today and I note that this gives a provisional date of Saturday 29th September for the Last A60 Stock Tour www.ltmuseum.co.uk/friends/whats-new/eventsLink corrected. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2012 21:32:34 GMT
I'd prefer the 'last day' of normal running, as opposed to a 'jolly sedate trip out', much like how the 67 stock saw its final running.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jun 25, 2012 21:52:30 GMT
I was looking at the Friends of the London Transport Museum website today and I note that this gives a provisional date of Saturday 29th September for the Last A60 Stock Tour www.ltmuseum.co.uk/friends/whats-new/eventsCat-in-bag revealed at last?!! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2012 22:06:56 GMT
Looks like it, what a first post!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2012 22:08:12 GMT
Dang, probably going to be in Ireland that weekend! Maybe they can be persuaded to bring some A stock out for the Amersham Heritage Day on the 9th as well.
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Post by pitdiver on Jul 26, 2012 10:40:11 GMT
Just to confirm partly what Dstock7080 has reported. In the latest addition of the pensioners version of "On the Move" and I quote. "There will be a final A stock railtour around the end of of September which will be publicised in the usual way through the LT Museum and website. The date is still to be confirmed." end of quote. I don't think it will need much publicity
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Post by harrowman on Jul 26, 2012 12:04:34 GMT
Just to confirm partly what Dstock7080 has reported. In the latest addition of the pensioners version of "On the Move" and I quote. "There will be a final A stock railtour around the end of of September which will be publicised in the usual way through the LT Museum and website. The date is still to be confirmed." end of quote. I don't think it will need much publicity A provisional date has been set, but don't hold your breath. |
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Post by superteacher on Jul 26, 2012 12:08:50 GMT
Like some others, I'm more interested in the last A stock in regular passenger service. We are quite fortunate that it isn't this week, as there are now plenty of S stocks to run the whole service with some spares to boot. The A stocks that have been out this week have only really run to keep them in working order. Not complaining though!
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Post by harrowman on Jul 26, 2012 15:05:36 GMT
Like some others, I'm more interested in the last A stock in regular passenger service. We are quite fortunate that it isn't this week, as there are now plenty of S stocks to run the whole service with some spares to boot. The A stocks that have been out this week have only really run to keep them in working order. Not complaining though! I couldn't agree more, but not in peak hours though.  |
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Post by superteacher on Jul 26, 2012 18:03:51 GMT
Like some others, I'm more interested in the last A stock in regular passenger service. We are quite fortunate that it isn't this week, as there are now plenty of S stocks to run the whole service with some spares to boot. The A stocks that have been out this week have only really run to keep them in working order. Not complaining though! I couldn't agree more, but not in peak hours though. I do hope that when the time comes, they put it out on an all day runner. |
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