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Post by a60 on Oct 27, 2011 22:05:42 GMT
This thread may be a bit early yet.
As far as I'm aware only 5595/6595 have been withdrawn (post-refurb), that is if we omit the 7/7 victims.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2011 22:11:32 GMT
5595 being the ones in Acton Works?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2011 22:18:07 GMT
5595 being the ones in Acton Works? Yes |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2011 22:27:04 GMT
Definitely withdrawn, but may not yet be 'officially'.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2011 6:34:24 GMT
This thread may be a bit early yet. As far as I'm aware only 5595/6595 have been withdrawn (post-refurb), that is if we omit the 7/7 victims. Is this so that there are trains available to strip mechanical parts from to keep the rest going, or other reasons? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2011 8:03:35 GMT
Quite possibly - probably not economical to put back into service - stopped 21.08.09. Each depot has its "Christmas Tree" (a unit that hasn't run for ages) at some time!
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Post by citysig on Oct 28, 2011 8:38:46 GMT
It won't be confirmed until mid/late November internally, but the latest figures are: Regular daytime testing of S7s in the first part of next year, 3-5 S7s in proper service by the Olympics, first C-stock withdrawal July/August next year.
As I said, this is the latest I've heard, and it seems to change weekly ;D
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Post by a60 on Oct 28, 2011 15:47:45 GMT
Quite possibly - probably not economical to put back into service - stopped 21.08.09. Each depot has its "Christmas Tree" (a unit that hasn't run for ages) at some time! As 5173 was for Neasden Depot XMAS: 07/08/09  |
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Post by metman on Oct 29, 2011 9:42:34 GMT
And before that it was 5036-5037!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2011 11:29:07 GMT
5036-6037-5037 is now 5116-6117-5117. It was out of service from 9.07.77 until reinstated, back in service 07.05.93. It contains the original 6116 (Kilburn collision 11.12.84).
This unit formed of refurb Train 41.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 29, 2011 11:34:05 GMT
ahem! can we keep to 'C69/77 Stock - Withdrawals', please!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2011 12:42:42 GMT
Move or repost the last few items? Or delete?
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Post by a60 on Oct 29, 2011 17:44:19 GMT
Sorry about deviating from the point....
I'm fairly confident that 5555 is for the chop early on, as its pretty much useless unless its in the middle of a formation.
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Post by uzairjubilee on Oct 29, 2011 20:45:50 GMT
Why would car 5555 be one of the first to be scrapped?
I'm always seeing it around, for some reason it has larger sized numbers than all the other numbers on C Stock cars.
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Post by a60 on Oct 29, 2011 21:01:22 GMT
5555 is famous for its TBC problems.
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Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Oct 29, 2011 21:04:19 GMT
5555 is famous for its TBC problems. Explain the TBC problems?  |
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Post by a60 on Oct 29, 2011 21:08:56 GMT
The prong which controls traction and braking has a habit of thinking the driver has let go, even when they are still pressing down on it. Unless this has been fixed (which I really doubt, as its always in the centre of formation), I think its for an early retirement.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 29, 2011 21:46:29 GMT
I'm fairly confident that 5555 is for the chop early on, as its pretty much useless unless its in the middle of a formation. But it works well enough to keep a 6-car running! I'm always seeing it around, for some reason it has larger sized numbers than all the other numbers on C Stock cars. As previously mentioned in this Forum 5555 has served in both the "Yellow Pages" and "Back the Olympic Bid" trains and gained the larger number at last repaint. |
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Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Oct 30, 2011 11:30:39 GMT
The prong which controls traction and braking has a habit of thinking the driver has let go, even when they are still pressing down on it. Unless this has been fixed (which I really doubt, as its always in the centre of formation), I think its for an early retirement. So if it were on the front, it would sometimes randomly apply the emergency brakes? Not really a good reason to retire it, I think... |
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Post by a60 on Oct 30, 2011 11:38:39 GMT
We'll leave that for the project manager to decide.
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Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Oct 30, 2011 11:40:52 GMT
Yup... There has to be one to be retired first...
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Post by metman on Oct 30, 2011 12:29:19 GMT
I am guessing the plan to start introducing S7 stock before all the S8 stock is working has been dropped then? I did hear that after the first 40 S8 were in service, the S7 delivery would start so there would be a fair few S7s for the olymipics?
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Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Oct 30, 2011 13:50:53 GMT
S7 and S8 isn't logical anymore, I suppose. (like the 95TS/96TS thing)
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Post by metman on Oct 30, 2011 15:24:05 GMT
How do you mean?
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Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Oct 30, 2011 15:47:50 GMT
Well, the S8 was introduced way before the S7, like the 96TS way before the 95TS. (Except that none of them are more modern than the other)
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Post by metman on Oct 30, 2011 15:58:33 GMT
The number applies to the number of cars per train rather than the year of construction in this case and is a break from the traditional numbering system.
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Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Oct 30, 2011 16:02:04 GMT
The number applies to the number of cars per train rather than the year of construction in this case and is a break from the traditional numbering system. Oh, sorry, my mistake. How will the Evo's be numbered? Something like T6 (6 cars - Picc), T7 (7 cars - Bakerloo), T8 (8 cars, Central)... How many cars did the 92TS on the Drain have? |
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Post by metman on Oct 30, 2011 16:18:21 GMT
No idea!! I think the Evo is a long way off, certainly up to 10 years away. A great deal will change before then.
They may be EVO6, EVO7 and EVO8! The W&City uses a 4 car train formed DM-UNDM+UNDM-DM or E-F cars. The previous 1940 stock used 5 car trains of DM+T-T-T+DM
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Post by citysig on Oct 30, 2011 16:45:09 GMT
I am guessing the plan to start introducing S7 stock before all the S8 stock is working has been dropped then? I did hear that after the first 40 S8 were in service, the S7 delivery would start so there would be a fair few S7s for the olymipics? As at current information, it will be 3 x S7s before the S8s are finished. Then the remaining S7s will be rolled out. The next working timetable on the H&C (December) will contain 2 trains which will both become S7 worked (in customer service) during the life of the timetable (so before next summer). |
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Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Oct 30, 2011 17:04:11 GMT
No idea!! I think the Evo is a long way off, certainly up to 10 years away. A great deal will change before then. They may be EVO6, EVO7 and EVO8! The W&City uses a 4 car train formed DM-UNDM+UNDM-DM or E-F cars. The previous 1940 stock used 5 car trains of DM+T-T-T+DM I also think that Evo will take a really long time until it even gets a single order. I hope T fL will first buy 4 prototype trains from different manufacturers, and allow customers to get feedback. (Like the 86TS - the green train won - became the 92TS) |
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